Re: Adrenal Cortex Extract

December 10, 2007

In frequent-dose-chelation sunshinep1969 wrote:

I just started some adrenal support, taking Adrenal cortex extract

(ACE) and wondered what dosage is acceptable/suggested?

---------I don't think I have heard an upper limit on this from Andy. In one

post he said it is " fairly innoculus " . He also recently told my doctor to tell

me to build up to 3-4 caps/ 3X day, so that would be 12 caps a day (and I think

he means Thorne brand.) Before that, I had heard 1-2 caps, 3-4X day, so still a

large quantity. So I think you just slowly build up your dose, and see if you

notice anything.------Jackie

Each capsule is 50mg (Thorne research)

Day one I took one in the morning, day two I took one at breakfast and

one at lunch. No reactions to report.

-----------Probably go to 1 cap 3X day, then go up to 2 caps 3X day, etc., and

see if you notice anything.---------Jackie

Sunshine

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December 10, 2007

In frequent-dose-chelation sunshinep1969 wrote:

I just started some adrenal support, taking Adrenal cortex extract

(ACE) and wondered what dosage is acceptable/suggested?

=====>Nutricology makes an Organic form of Adrenal Cortex Extract, 250 mgs and

we give our little 50 lber, 3 of these a day. Fwiw, I took just ONE after some

stress at work found my hands shaking and 2 hours later, I couldn't keep my eyes

open. I don't know if this means my adrenals work well already or what, but

thought I'd offer you both examples so you could see what a wide variation there

is in people.

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I've never heard of this stuff. Is it safe? What can I expect it to

do? Does it help? Where can I find out more?

>

> I just started some adrenal support, taking Adrenal cortex extract

> (ACE) and wondered what dosage is acceptable/suggested?

>

> Each capsule is 50mg (Thorne research)

>

> Day one I took one in the morning, day two I took one at breakfast and

> one at lunch. No reactions to report.

>

> Sunshine

>

December 11, 2007

> I just started some adrenal support, taking Adrenal cortex

extract

> (ACE) and wondered what dosage is acceptable/suggested?

>

> ---------I don't think I have heard an upper limit on this from

Andy. In one post he said it is " fairly innoculus " . He also

recently told my doctor to tell me to build up to 3-4 caps/ 3X day,

so that would be 12 caps a day (and I think he means Thorne brand.)

Before that, I had heard 1-2 caps, 3-4X day, so still a large

quantity. So I think you just slowly build up your dose, and see if

you notice anything.------Jackie

> Each capsule is 50mg (Thorne research)

>

> Day one I took one in the morning, day two I took one at

breakfast and

> one at lunch. No reactions to report.

>

> -----------Probably go to 1 cap 3X day, then go up to 2 caps 3X

day, etc., and see if you notice anything.---------Jackie

Sunshine: Ok, thanks and Jackie. My research said similar, 2-

3 caps 3 times a day, but i see no reference to mg. If I have to take

that much I will have to change brands because it's very expensive

stuff.

Anyway...i will ramp up slowly and see what happens. I am taking my

temperature daily so that is a very good road map of what's

happening.

I have already managed to stabilise my temps with liquorice & salt. I

am no longer cold all the time, which is nice. My graph is much much

less jagged than it was due to these things, so hopefully ACE will

continue helping where these herbs & salt have.

Also taking a little kelp for the iodine and maca powder too, both of

which help and I can actually feel the difference with these things.

To find out about this stuff I read the following book : " adrenal

fatigue: The 21st century stress syndrome " by DR . I thought

this a great book.

Maybe I will have to take HC, but before I do I want to try these

things first, and so far so good. I am no longer cold all the time:-)

Sunshine

December 11, 2007

In frequent-dose-chelation sunshinep1969 wrote:

> I just started some adrenal support, taking Adrenal cortex

extract

> (ACE) and wondered what dosage is acceptable/suggested?

>

> ---------I don't think I have heard an upper limit on this from

Andy. In one post he said it is " fairly innoculus " . He also

recently told my doctor to tell me to build up to 3-4 caps/ 3X day,

so that would be 12 caps a day (and I think he means Thorne brand.)

Before that, I had heard 1-2 caps, 3-4X day, so still a large

quantity. So I think you just slowly build up your dose, and see if

you notice anything.------Jackie

> Each capsule is 50mg (Thorne research)

>

> Day one I took one in the morning, day two I took one at

breakfast and

> one at lunch. No reactions to report.

>

> -----------Probably go to 1 cap 3X day, then go up to 2 caps 3X

day, etc., and see if you notice anything.---------Jackie

Sunshine: Ok, thanks and Jackie. My research said similar, 2-

3 caps 3 times a day, but i see no reference to mg. If I have to take

that much I will have to change brands because it's very expensive

stuff.

---------Where did you buy it and what did you pay? (Thorne Research brand

Adrenal Cortex Extract 50mg, 60 capsules per bottle, right?) I have purchased

it online from Naturamart for $8.37 a bottle, same price at Total Health

Discount Vitamins, and it is $9.30 at Illnessisoptional. I didn't consider it

expensive, although if we get up to those maximum dosages, it will start to add

up. I just know in the past, it was the brand that Andy has recommended, so I

have no idea how others differ. I was doing some price surfing on the net last

night, and checked out the Nutricology one that mentioned and found it

at Iherb. They had two, 300mg - 75 caps for $9.60 and 250mg - 100 caps for

$13.62. So, if this brand is good and is actually 5-6 times stronger than the

Thorne, then it is a much better deal. We should ask if it's been

discussed on the A-M group.---------Jackie

Anyway...i will ramp up slowly and see what happens. I am taking my

temperature daily so that is a very good road map of what's

happening.

------------Good for you. I foolishly haven't done this. Keep us posted on

what happens with your temps.---------Jackie

I have already managed to stabilise my temps with liquorice & salt. I

am no longer cold all the time, which is nice. My graph is much much

less jagged than it was due to these things, so hopefully ACE will

continue helping where these herbs & salt have.

-----------How much of these are you taking?---------Jackie

Also taking a little kelp for the iodine and maca powder too, both of

which help and I can actually feel the difference with these things.

--------It's great when you actually feel it helping. How much of these are

you taking?-------Jackie

To find out about this stuff I read the following book : " adrenal

fatigue: The 21st century stress syndrome " by DR . I thought

this a great book.

---------I haven't read this one yet, but have seen it recommended. I have

read " The Safe Uses of Cortisol " by Jefferies.--------Jackie

Maybe I will have to take HC, but before I do I want to try these

things first, and so far so good. I am no longer cold all the time:-)

---------It sounds like you are making progress, and hopefully won't need HC.

Maybe you caught things in time. Keep us posted.---------Jackie

Sunshine

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December 11, 2007

----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie

So, if this brand is good and is actually 5-6 times stronger than the Thorne,

then it is a much better deal. We should ask if it's been discussed on

the A-M group.---------Jackie

====>Yes, Andy has mentioned it on A-M as a good brand, dosage to use and

certainly the one I think most adrenal-deficient adults would use, although,

again, just ONE (1) made me want to take a nap but three (3) per day is about

right for my little 50 lb granddaughter. Most parents on A-M use this

Nutricology Organic Adrenal Cortex Extract product.

I checked froogle.com for the best price and found $12 prices for this product

from outletnutrition.com and vitacost.com.

December 11, 2007

----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie

So, if this brand is good and is actually 5-6 times stronger than the Thorne,

then it is a much better deal. We should ask if it's been discussed on

the A-M group.---------Jackie

====>Yes, Andy has mentioned it on A-M as a good brand, dosage to use and

certainly the one I think most adrenal-deficient adults would use, although,

again, just ONE (1) made me want to take a nap but three (3) per day is about

right for my little 50 lb granddaughter. Most parents on A-M use this

Nutricology Organic Adrenal Cortex Extract product.

I checked froogle.com for the best price and found $12 prices for this product

from outletnutrition.com and vitacost.com.

December 11, 2007

Thanks so much . I just haven't had time to read over at A-M for a long

time, so I really appreciate you spending time with us also! I know in the past

Andy has recommended Thorne, but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has

been discussed on A-M and is being used with good results. I like the fact that

it is organic also, and much cheaper! I will use up my Thorne ACE, and then

switch.

One thought I had is maybe its good to start with Thorne (50mg), because of the

smaller dose, to see how its tolerated? Then once you build up your dose, then

switch to Nutricology (250 or 300mg), for a higher single dose and less

expensive. Maybe you wouldn't have had such a reaction to a smaller dose.

I did see 100 caps of 250mg and 75 caps of 300mg, both from Nutricology. Do you

know if there is any preference or any difference in these? The price per mg is

cheaper with the 300mg/75 caps, at least at iherb. Either way, it's much

cheaper than Thorne, per mg.

And just to clarify, Andy recommended 1 cap/ 3Xday, for the Nutricology ACE?

Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie

So, if this brand is good and is actually 5-6 times stronger than the Thorne,

then it is a much better deal. We should ask if it's been discussed on

the A-M group.---------Jackie

====>Yes, Andy has mentioned it on A-M as a good brand, dosage to use and

certainly the one I think most adrenal-deficient adults would use, although,

again, just ONE (1) made me want to take a nap but three (3) per day is about

right for my little 50 lb granddaughter. Most parents on A-M use this

Nutricology Organic Adrenal Cortex Extract product.

I checked froogle.com for the best price and found $12 prices for this product

from outletnutrition.com and vitacost.com.

December 11, 2007

Thanks so much . I just haven't had time to read over at A-M for a long

time, so I really appreciate you spending time with us also! I know in the past

Andy has recommended Thorne, but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has

been discussed on A-M and is being used with good results. I like the fact that

it is organic also, and much cheaper! I will use up my Thorne ACE, and then

switch.

One thought I had is maybe its good to start with Thorne (50mg), because of the

smaller dose, to see how its tolerated? Then once you build up your dose, then

switch to Nutricology (250 or 300mg), for a higher single dose and less

expensive. Maybe you wouldn't have had such a reaction to a smaller dose.

I did see 100 caps of 250mg and 75 caps of 300mg, both from Nutricology. Do you

know if there is any preference or any difference in these? The price per mg is

cheaper with the 300mg/75 caps, at least at iherb. Either way, it's much

cheaper than Thorne, per mg.

And just to clarify, Andy recommended 1 cap/ 3Xday, for the Nutricology ACE?

Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie

So, if this brand is good and is actually 5-6 times stronger than the Thorne,

then it is a much better deal. We should ask if it's been discussed on

the A-M group.---------Jackie

====>Yes, Andy has mentioned it on A-M as a good brand, dosage to use and

certainly the one I think most adrenal-deficient adults would use, although,

again, just ONE (1) made me want to take a nap but three (3) per day is about

right for my little 50 lb granddaughter. Most parents on A-M use this

Nutricology Organic Adrenal Cortex Extract product.

I checked froogle.com for the best price and found $12 prices for this product

from outletnutrition.com and vitacost.com.

December 11, 2007

Thanks so much . I just haven't had time to read over at A-M for a long

time, so I really appreciate you spending time with us also! I know in the past

Andy has recommended Thorne, but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has

been discussed on A-M and is being used with good results. I like the fact that

it is organic also, and much cheaper! I will use up my Thorne ACE, and then

switch.

One thought I had is maybe its good to start with Thorne (50mg), because of the

smaller dose, to see how its tolerated? Then once you build up your dose, then

switch to Nutricology (250 or 300mg), for a higher single dose and less

expensive. Maybe you wouldn't have had such a reaction to a smaller dose.

I did see 100 caps of 250mg and 75 caps of 300mg, both from Nutricology. Do you

know if there is any preference or any difference in these? The price per mg is

cheaper with the 300mg/75 caps, at least at iherb. Either way, it's much

cheaper than Thorne, per mg.

And just to clarify, Andy recommended 1 cap/ 3Xday, for the Nutricology ACE?

Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie

So, if this brand is good and is actually 5-6 times stronger than the Thorne,

then it is a much better deal. We should ask if it's been discussed on

the A-M group.---------Jackie

====>Yes, Andy has mentioned it on A-M as a good brand, dosage to use and

certainly the one I think most adrenal-deficient adults would use, although,

again, just ONE (1) made me want to take a nap but three (3) per day is about

right for my little 50 lb granddaughter. Most parents on A-M use this

Nutricology Organic Adrenal Cortex Extract product.

I checked froogle.com for the best price and found $12 prices for this product

from outletnutrition.com and vitacost.com.

December 11, 2007

Jackie,

I believe the 300 mg, 75 caps is the whole adrenal glandular, which I don't

think Andy recommends, only the Adrenal Cortex or Adrenal Cortex Extract.

For the little ones, Andy recommends using 1-3, 250 mg, Nutricology ACE, from

what I remember. I do know of one Mom with a 40 lb child who was using up to 6

of these per day.

I don't think my reaction to them is typical, and I'm not dealing with mercury

poisoning.

Hope this helps,

Re: Re: Adrenal Cortex Extract

Thanks so much . I just haven't had time to read over at A-M for a long

time, so I really appreciate you spending time with us also! I know in the past

Andy has recommended Thorne, but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has

been discussed on A-M and is being used with good results. I like the fact that

it is organic also, and much cheaper! I will use up my Thorne ACE, and then

switch.

One thought I had is maybe its good to start with Thorne (50mg), because of

the smaller dose, to see how its tolerated? Then once you build up your dose,

then switch to Nutricology (250 or 300mg), for a higher single dose and less

expensive. Maybe you wouldn't have had such a reaction to a smaller dose.

I did see 100 caps of 250mg and 75 caps of 300mg, both from Nutricology. Do

you know if there is any preference or any difference in these? The price per mg

is cheaper with the 300mg/75 caps, at least at iherb. Either way, it's much

cheaper than Thorne, per mg.

And just to clarify, Andy recommended 1 cap/ 3Xday, for the Nutricology ACE?

Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie

So, if this brand is good and is actually 5-6 times stronger than the Thorne,

then it is a much better deal. We should ask if it's been discussed on

the A-M group.---------Jackie

====>Yes, Andy has mentioned it on A-M as a good brand, dosage to use and

certainly the one I think most adrenal-deficient adults would use, although,

again, just ONE (1) made me want to take a nap but three (3) per day is about

right for my little 50 lb granddaughter. Most parents on A-M use this

Nutricology Organic Adrenal Cortex Extract product.

I checked froogle.com for the best price and found $12 prices for this product

from outletnutrition.com and vitacost.com.

December 11, 2007

>

> T but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has been discussed on A-M

and is being

used with good results. I like the fact that it is organic also, and much

cheaper! I will use up

my Thorne ACE, and then switch.

Just to muddy the waters, I'm using Enzymatic Therapy Adrenergize for my son. I

don't have

my notes with me, but I thought that some kinds of ACE included the whole gland

and some

kinds did not, but I'm not seeing a difference in the brands now. Confusing! I

tried the kind

with the whole gland and it gave me really bad anxiety, which is why I'm

bringing this up.

Somebody whose memory is working today will be able to make sense of this.

,

remember what I'm talking about?

Nell

December 11, 2007

>

> T but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has been discussed on A-M

and is being

used with good results. I like the fact that it is organic also, and much

cheaper! I will use up

my Thorne ACE, and then switch.

Just to muddy the waters, I'm using Enzymatic Therapy Adrenergize for my son. I

don't have

my notes with me, but I thought that some kinds of ACE included the whole gland

and some

kinds did not, but I'm not seeing a difference in the brands now. Confusing! I

tried the kind

with the whole gland and it gave me really bad anxiety, which is why I'm

bringing this up.

Somebody whose memory is working today will be able to make sense of this.

,

remember what I'm talking about?

Nell

December 11, 2007

Yes, the whole adrenal is not to be used and I think that is what the 350 mg is,

if that makes sense. Only Adrenal Cortex or Adrenal Cortex Extract is to be

used, not the whole gland. Enzymatic Therapy includes the spleen, kidney and

brain, I think, which is not bad but maybe a little creepy :-).

Re: Adrenal Cortex Extract

>

> T but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has been discussed on A-M

and is being

used with good results. I like the fact that it is organic also, and much

cheaper! I will use up

my Thorne ACE, and then switch.

Just to muddy the waters, I'm using Enzymatic Therapy Adrenergize for my son.

I don't have

my notes with me, but I thought that some kinds of ACE included the whole

gland and some

kinds did not, but I'm not seeing a difference in the brands now. Confusing! I

tried the kind

with the whole gland and it gave me really bad anxiety, which is why I'm

bringing this up.

Somebody whose memory is working today will be able to make sense of this.

,

remember what I'm talking about?

Nell

December 11, 2007

Yes, the whole adrenal is not to be used and I think that is what the 350 mg is,

if that makes sense. Only Adrenal Cortex or Adrenal Cortex Extract is to be

used, not the whole gland. Enzymatic Therapy includes the spleen, kidney and

brain, I think, which is not bad but maybe a little creepy :-).

Re: Adrenal Cortex Extract

>

> T but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has been discussed on A-M

and is being

used with good results. I like the fact that it is organic also, and much

cheaper! I will use up

my Thorne ACE, and then switch.

Just to muddy the waters, I'm using Enzymatic Therapy Adrenergize for my son.

I don't have

my notes with me, but I thought that some kinds of ACE included the whole

gland and some

kinds did not, but I'm not seeing a difference in the brands now. Confusing! I

tried the kind

with the whole gland and it gave me really bad anxiety, which is why I'm

bringing this up.

Somebody whose memory is working today will be able to make sense of this.

,

remember what I'm talking about?

Nell

December 11, 2007

Yes, the whole adrenal is not to be used and I think that is what the 350 mg is,

if that makes sense. Only Adrenal Cortex or Adrenal Cortex Extract is to be

used, not the whole gland. Enzymatic Therapy includes the spleen, kidney and

brain, I think, which is not bad but maybe a little creepy :-).

Re: Adrenal Cortex Extract

>

> T but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has been discussed on A-M

and is being

used with good results. I like the fact that it is organic also, and much

cheaper! I will use up

my Thorne ACE, and then switch.

Just to muddy the waters, I'm using Enzymatic Therapy Adrenergize for my son.

I don't have

my notes with me, but I thought that some kinds of ACE included the whole

gland and some

kinds did not, but I'm not seeing a difference in the brands now. Confusing! I

tried the kind

with the whole gland and it gave me really bad anxiety, which is why I'm

bringing this up.

Somebody whose memory is working today will be able to make sense of this.

,

remember what I'm talking about?

Nell

December 11, 2007

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

Jackie,

I believe the 300 mg, 75 caps is the whole adrenal glandular,

----------Yes you are right, thanks . It was very late last night when

I was looking at these, and didn't even catch the difference. The 300mg-75caps

IS called Adrenal Organic Glandular, and the ingredients say Adrenal Tissue. So

this IS NOT the one Andy recommends. He recommends Adrenal Cortex only.

The correct one is the 250mg-100caps Allergy Research Group Nutricology

Adrenal Cortex, and the ingredients says Adrenal Cortex Tissue. I just wanted

to make this very clear, for anyone who is following this thread.--------Jackie

which I don't think Andy recommends, only the Adrenal Cortex or Adrenal Cortex

Extract.

For the little ones, Andy recommends using 1-3, 250 mg, Nutricology ACE, from

what I remember. I do know of one Mom with a 40 lb child who was using up to 6

of these per day.

----------Thanks for this dosing info. So I would think people should start

with one, and then build up slowly to maybe 3 a day, and then assess how they

are doing. Or like I said, you could start with the Thorne ACE 50mg and build

up dosage with these, and then maybe switch to the Nutricology

250mg.--------Jackie

I don't think my reaction to them is typical, and I'm not dealing with mercury

poisoning.

---------It is interesting to hear how a non-toxic person with probably fine

adrenals reacted to this. Maybe that's proof to the rest of us that is does

actually do something. Thanks again, , you've been very

helpful.------Jackie

Hope this helps,

Re: Re: Adrenal Cortex Extract

Thanks so much . I just haven't had time to read over at A-M for a long

time, so I really appreciate you spending time with us also! I know in the past

Andy has recommended Thorne, but its good to hear that the Nutricology brand has

been discussed on A-M and is being used with good results. I like the fact that

it is organic also, and much cheaper! I will use up my Thorne ACE, and then

switch.

One thought I had is maybe its good to start with Thorne (50mg), because of

the smaller dose, to see how its tolerated? Then once you build up your dose,

then switch to Nutricology (250 or 300mg), for a higher single dose and less

expensive. Maybe you wouldn't have had such a reaction to a smaller dose.

I did see 100 caps of 250mg and 75 caps of 300mg, both from Nutricology. Do

you know if there is any preference or any difference in these? The price per mg

is cheaper with the 300mg/75 caps, at least at iherb. Either way, it's much

cheaper than Thorne, per mg.

And just to clarify, Andy recommended 1 cap/ 3Xday, for the Nutricology ACE?

Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie

So, if this brand is good and is actually 5-6 times stronger than the Thorne,

then it is a much better deal. We should ask if it's been discussed on

the A-M group.---------Jackie

====>Yes, Andy has mentioned it on A-M as a good brand, dosage to use and

certainly the one I think most adrenal-deficient adults would use, although,

again, just ONE (1) made me want to take a nap but three (3) per day is about

right for my little 50 lb granddaughter. Most parents on A-M use this

Nutricology Organic Adrenal Cortex Extract product.

I checked froogle.com for the best price and found $12 prices for this product

from outletnutrition.com and vitacost.com.

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December 11, 2007

Our experiences:

I use Adrenal Cortex by Allergy Research. It goes for $13 for 100

capsules. It has I think 250mg. I use it for myself and 12yr, and 5 yr

mercury toxic children/adult.

It has alleviated adrenal symptoms in all three of us. It is safer

than hydrocortisone as you don't need a doc to monitor you. I was told

my Andy to use this for my children rather than HC because HC should

be monitored if used, especially in children.

Also, a good option for those of us who don't have a doctor that

believes in adrenal fatigue.

Start at one cap in the am. See how it goes. If you don't feel

anything after a few days, add a second capsule around lunch time or

early afternoon. (Before 4pm). Slowly build up until you find a dose

that controls your adrenal symptoms and makes you feel better. For

some this is one cap, some it's four, some it's 6..this will depend on

your level of adrenal fatigue.

Does it help? You bet! I no longer have panic attacks or require SSR's

for them. My 12 yr old does not have panic/anxiety either. 5yr has no

tantrums or meltdowns, much calmer and happier.

>

> I've never heard of this stuff. Is it safe? What can I expect it to

> do? Does it help? Where can I find out more?

>

> ---

December 11, 2007

> I can't think of any reason not to try it. As always, although many

> people will benefit from it, some people may not and some people

will

> react badly to it. No way to know except by trying it.

>

> --

>

When you say react badly to it, what does that mean? What kinds of bad

reactions would someone have? What would they feel? I am sure I need

adrenal extract support but I have had bad reactions to licorice, no

help from ginsengs or other adrenal herbs, so I am just a little

gunshy and wondering what a bad reaction to adrenal cortex would be.

December 11, 2007

> I can't think of any reason not to try it. As always, although many

> people will benefit from it, some people may not and some people

will

> react badly to it. No way to know except by trying it.

>

> --

>

When you say react badly to it, what does that mean? What kinds of bad

reactions would someone have? What would they feel? I am sure I need

adrenal extract support but I have had bad reactions to licorice, no

help from ginsengs or other adrenal herbs, so I am just a little

gunshy and wondering what a bad reaction to adrenal cortex would be.

December 11, 2007

Thanks for the report on you and your kids. This sounds great! How long have

you guys been taking the Adrenal Cortex by Allergy Research (Nuticology)? And

you don't take anything else specifically for adrenals, just this?-------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Jada wrote:

Our experiences:

I use Adrenal Cortex by Allergy Research. It goes for $13 for 100

capsules. It has I think 250mg. I use it for myself and 12yr, and 5 yr

mercury toxic children/adult.

It has alleviated adrenal symptoms in all three of us. It is safer

than hydrocortisone as you don't need a doc to monitor you. I was told

my Andy to use this for my children rather than HC because HC should

be monitored if used, especially in children.

Also, a good option for those of us who don't have a doctor that

believes in adrenal fatigue.

Start at one cap in the am. See how it goes. If you don't feel

anything after a few days, add a second capsule around lunch time or

early afternoon. (Before 4pm). Slowly build up until you find a dose

that controls your adrenal symptoms and makes you feel better. For

some this is one cap, some it's four, some it's 6..this will depend on

your level of adrenal fatigue.

Does it help? You bet! I no longer have panic attacks or require SSR's

for them. My 12 yr old does not have panic/anxiety either. 5yr has no

tantrums or meltdowns, much calmer and happier.

>

> I've never heard of this stuff. Is it safe? What can I expect it to

> do? Does it help? Where can I find out more?

>

> ---

December 12, 2007

> In frequent-dose-chelation sunshinep1969 wrote:

> > I just started some adrenal support, taking Adrenal cortex

> extract

> > (ACE) and wondered what dosage is acceptable/suggested?

> >

> Sunshine:If I have to take

> that much I will have to change brands because it's very

expensive stuff.

>

> ---------Where did you buy it and what did you pay? (Thorne

Research brand Adrenal Cortex Extract 50mg, 60 capsules per bottle,

right?) I have purchased it online from Naturamart for $8.37 a

bottle, same price at Total Health Discount Vitamins, and it is $9.30

at Illnessisoptional. I didn't consider it expensive, although if we

get up to those maximum dosages, it will start to add up. I just

know in the past, it was the brand that Andy has recommended, so I

have no idea how others differ. I was doing some price surfing on

the net last night, and checked out the Nutricology one that

mentioned and found it at Iherb. They had two, 300mg - 75 caps for

$9.60 and 250mg - 100 caps for $13.62. So, if this brand is good and

is actually 5-6 times stronger than the Thorne, then it is a much

better deal. We should ask if it's been discussed on the A-M

group.---------Jackie

Sunshine: I paid about £16 for Thorne research ACE. That's for 60

caps. If I take 6 per day that lasts me 10 days! I am on about 20

supplements at the moment and it all adds up. £16 = $32 of your

American dollars! Maybe I will have to buy from the USA and get them

shipped over?

>

> Anyway...i will ramp up slowly and see what happens. I am taking

my

> temperature daily so that is a very good road map of what's

> happening.

>

> ------------Good for you. I foolishly haven't done this. Keep

us posted on what happens with your temps.---------Jackie

Sunshine: The temp graph is excellent. I have marked on mine when I

added each supplement and how each day was for me, good, bad or ugly.

Been about 7 weeks now I been doing the graph and I have seen my

temps go from wildly jagged and low….to…..much more stable and higher

than it was, although not high enough by far. Also two weeks ago I

had a real bad round of DMSA and my temp dropped like a stone. But

the next day it went right back up to the range that it had been in.

I bounced back better than I had in the past, which means the actions

I am taking are working a bit. All in all a very good guide for me to

see whats happening. I am seeing a specialist in the new year, so

this keeps me interested and very well motivated. Seeing is

believing. In fact if you want to see my graph I posted it on another

forum:

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?

Cat=&Board=UBB19&Number=246831&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

>

> I have already managed to stabilise my temps with liquorice &

salt. I

> am no longer cold all the time, which is nice. My graph is much

much

> less jagged than it was due to these things, so hopefully ACE

will

> continue helping where these herbs & salt have.

>

> -----------How much of these are you taking?---------Jackie

Sunshine: Pure Liquorice tea, with no other extras added, I take 2-3

teas per day. Made by Clipper.

Himalayan rock salt – I have been talking this for 10 months because

I'm on The Watercure, about half a tsp, but after reading about

adrenals I upped the dose to 1-2 tsp per day. I usually dose to taste…

if it taste good….thats the right dose. If it tastes too salty that's

too much.

>

> Also taking a little kelp for the iodine and maca powder too,

both of

> which help and I can actually feel the difference with these

things.

>

> --------It's great when you actually feel it helping. How much

of these are you taking?-------Jackie

Sunshine: Kelp – I take 1 cap of 150mg – this is for thyroids so I

will not go any higher on this until the temps are very steady.

Apparently no variation of more than o.2 deg is what I'm looking for

and I'm still slightly higher than that now.

Maca powder. I don't know exactly how much I take. Someone posted

some thyroid cookies awhile back, so I make these and eat a couple

every day. I quadrupled the maca quantities in the recipe. Works

wonders for my libido! I kid you not, wonders!

Google it and have a good laugh! Organic Viagra!:-0

>

> To find out about this stuff I read the following book : " adrenal

> fatigue: The 21st century stress syndrome " by DR . I

thought

> this a great book.

>

> ---------I haven't read this one yet, but have seen it

recommended. I have read " The Safe Uses of Cortisol " by Jefferies.---

-----Jackie

Sunshine: I read 4 books about adrenals these last few months and I

tackled " safe uses of cortisol " last. I found his book way too

technical for me. I am not a medical man and I just did not

understand the detail. I did not finish it, which is unusual for me,

but was just too technical.

Sunshine: Re different brand of ACE. ….thanks all the feed back.

Just so I remember and get it straight, the one andy recommends

is : " The correct one is the 250mg-100caps Allergy Research Group

Nutricology Adrenal Cortex, and the ingredients says Adrenal Cortex

Tissue "

Cool, Thx, Sunshine

December 12, 2007