Re: Lead and DMSA,and silver, my chelation report

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>>>>>>>>>>>I have put my answers in arrows so you can find them more

easily.>>>>>>>>>>> Llamabb

> I had a new hair test in October 2007. My silver levels had dropped

> from 38 to 2.1. Still high but down by 95%. That is a significant

> drop, wouldn't you say?

>

> -------------Yes, quite a drop, to say the least. So during this

time between the two hair tests, you pulled out the silver cartridge

from the hot tub, quit using colloidal silver, got your amalgams

removed, and started chelating? Did I get that all right? Like you

said, it would be interesting to know how much was external

contamination and how much was actually inside you.-----------Jackie

>>>>>>>>>Yes I did all of that by Nov. 16, 2006.<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

>

>

> By the way, I had a Hair Elements test in 1999. (Wish I had known how

> to read it back then.) My silver on that test was only .04 though I

> clearly met counting rules for deranged mineral transport even then.

>

> -----------Interesting. How did you know to get a hair test back

then? I asume your ND maybe? Were you looking for lead?----------Jackie

>>>>>>>>> Yes it was the naturopath I was seeing at the time that gave

me the hair test. He looked for different things in the hair test

among the essential elements. I was having problems at the time. Now

I realize the crown I had just had put in probably was the cause of my

increased symptoms.<<<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

>

> The most recent test was last winter. Our

> water is wonderful and toxic metal free. It has a barely registering

> trace of Barium, an essential element. I am thankful for this good

> water and wish I could share my good water with all of you who worry

> about the problem of tainted water.

>

> -------------That's great that you're water is fine and metal

free, and how nice of you to want to share! It's probably better than

most of the bottled water people buy! Do you mind saying where you

live? Just curious.--------Jackie

>

>>>>>>>>>I live in western Oregon<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

> I lived the bad water problem

> when I became lead poisoned. It turned out that the water in the

> apartments where I lived had the most lead of any tested in the city.

> It made my cat sick too and caused her to have seizures. I wish I

> knew in 1981 what I know now!

>

> ----------Wow. That's terrible. Why didn't they treat you for

lead poisoning back then? I think that's what you said in your first

post?---------Jackie

>

>>>>>>>>>>>Because the level in my blood had dropped " of its own

accord " to just below the government's identified level for poisoning

which at the time was a whopping 50 mg (or mcg? I forget) per unit.

Nowadays it is much much lower than that. Since my blood level was

down, I was " Okay " . Ha! My doctor explored the lead poisoning angle

only because the vet had figured it out for my cat, if you can believe

that.<<<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

>

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In frequent-dose-chelation llamabb wrote:

++++++++Mine are like this this time-------Jackie

>>>>>>>>>>>I have put my answers in arrows so you can find them more

easily.>>>>>>>>>>> Llamabb

>

> By the way, I had a Hair Elements test in 1999. (Wish I had known how

> to read it back then.) My silver on that test was only .04 though I

> clearly met counting rules for deranged mineral transport even then.

>

> -----------Interesting. How did you know to get a hair test back

then? I asume your ND maybe? Were you looking for lead?----------Jackie

>>>>>>>>> Yes it was the naturopath I was seeing at the time that gave

me the hair test. He looked for different things in the hair test

among the essential elements. I was having problems at the time. Now

I realize the crown I had just had put in probably was the cause of my

increased symptoms.<<<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

++++++ Isn't it weird to look back now and identify dental work as the cause

and the beginning or increase in problems? If we would have had a clue or made

the connection earlier. I went downhill in my 20's when 5 of my old childhood

amalgams were replaced with new amalgams over a period of a few years. Symptoms

came on and added slowly, never made the connection until a few years ago. But

that's when it all started. And then we moved back to the country, thought it

would be healthier for me and I might get better, and who would of thought, I

added another metal, arsenic in my well water! So I continued to get sicker.

Funny how all the puzzle pieces finally start coming together.---------Jackie

>

> I lived the bad water problem

> when I became lead poisoned. It turned out that the water in the

> apartments where I lived had the most lead of any tested in the city.

> It made my cat sick too and caused her to have seizures. I wish I

> knew in 1981 what I know now!

>

> ----------Wow. That's terrible. Why didn't they treat you for

lead poisoning back then? I think that's what you said in your first

post?---------Jackie

>

>>>>>>>>>>>Because the level in my blood had dropped " of its own

accord " to just below the government's identified level for poisoning

which at the time was a whopping 50 mg (or mcg? I forget) per unit.

Nowadays it is much much lower than that. Since my blood level was

down, I was " Okay " . Ha! My doctor explored the lead poisoning angle

only because the vet had figured it out for my cat, if you can believe

that.<<<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

+++++ So the animals get better treatment than we do! That's terrible! But

the only blessing in disguise might be that the treatment they would have given

you back then, (without you knowing what you know now about mercury,etc.), may

have done you more harm than good, since you would have had amalgam in your

mouth. I had this discussion with someone else, wishing I would have figured

out what was wrong with me sooner, but like she said, the treatment back then,

and especially before Cutler's books, may have been worse than waiting. Anyway,

glad you're on the right track now, and hope you continue to improve. And keep

reporting about your lead removal and symptoms, I find it very fascinating.

Thanks---------Jackie

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llamabb,

Wondering what water test you used? what company? thanks

>

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>I have put my answers in arrows so you can find them more

> easily.>>>>>>>>>>> Llamabb

>

> > I had a new hair test in October 2007. My silver levels had dropped

> > from 38 to 2.1. Still high but down by 95%. That is a significant

> > drop, wouldn't you say?

> >

> > -------------Yes, quite a drop, to say the least. So during this

> time between the two hair tests, you pulled out the silver cartridge

> from the hot tub, quit using colloidal silver, got your amalgams

> removed, and started chelating? Did I get that all right? Like you

> said, it would be interesting to know how much was external

> contamination and how much was actually inside you.-----------Jackie

>

> >>>>>>>>>Yes I did all of that by Nov. 16, 2006.<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

> >

> >

> > By the way, I had a Hair Elements test in 1999. (Wish I had

known how

> > to read it back then.) My silver on that test was only .04 though I

> > clearly met counting rules for deranged mineral transport even then.

> >

> > -----------Interesting. How did you know to get a hair test back

> then? I asume your ND maybe? Were you looking for

lead?----------Jackie

>

> >>>>>>>>> Yes it was the naturopath I was seeing at the time that gave

> me the hair test. He looked for different things in the hair test

> among the essential elements. I was having problems at the time. Now

> I realize the crown I had just had put in probably was the cause of my

> increased symptoms.<<<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

> >

>

> > The most recent test was last winter. Our

> > water is wonderful and toxic metal free. It has a barely registering

> > trace of Barium, an essential element. I am thankful for this good

> > water and wish I could share my good water with all of you who worry

> > about the problem of tainted water.

> >

> > -------------That's great that you're water is fine and metal

> free, and how nice of you to want to share! It's probably better than

> most of the bottled water people buy! Do you mind saying where you

> live? Just curious.--------Jackie

> >

> >>>>>>>>>I live in western Oregon<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

>

>

> > I lived the bad water problem

> > when I became lead poisoned. It turned out that the water in the

> > apartments where I lived had the most lead of any tested in the

city.

> > It made my cat sick too and caused her to have seizures. I wish I

> > knew in 1981 what I know now!

> >

> > ----------Wow. That's terrible. Why didn't they treat you for

> lead poisoning back then? I think that's what you said in your first

> post?---------Jackie

> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>Because the level in my blood had dropped " of its own

> accord " to just below the government's identified level for poisoning

> which at the time was a whopping 50 mg (or mcg? I forget) per unit.

> Nowadays it is much much lower than that. Since my blood level was

> down, I was " Okay " . Ha! My doctor explored the lead poisoning angle

> only because the vet had figured it out for my cat, if you can believe

> that.<<<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

> >

>

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I used an independent lab in our city that I have used previously for

hay analysis as well. They are certified etc. We did a test they run

for 8 toxic metals. It included bacteria and such. I think I asked

for something additional too. It cost about $125 if I remember

correctly. Coffey Laboratories Inc. in Portland, Oregon. Everything

was done pretty quickly except for mercury. That took a lot more time

before they got it done.

>

> llamabb,

> Wondering what water test you used? what company? thanks

>

> > > The most recent test was last winter. Our

> > > water is wonderful and toxic metal free. It has a barely

registering

> > > trace of Barium, an essential element. I am thankful for this good

> > > water and wish I could share my good water with all of you who

worry

> > > about the problem of tainted water.

> > >

> > > -------------That's great that you're water is fine and metal

> > free, and how nice of you to want to share! It's probably better than

> > most of the bottled water people buy! Do you mind saying where you

> > live? Just curious.--------Jackie

> > >

> > >>>>>>>>>I live in western Oregon<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

> > \

[Guest guest]

I used an independent lab in our city that I have used previously for

hay analysis as well. They are certified etc. We did a test they run

for 8 toxic metals. It included bacteria and such. I think I asked

for something additional too. It cost about $125 if I remember

correctly. Coffey Laboratories Inc. in Portland, Oregon. Everything

was done pretty quickly except for mercury. That took a lot more time

before they got it done.

>

> llamabb,

> Wondering what water test you used? what company? thanks

>

> > > The most recent test was last winter. Our

> > > water is wonderful and toxic metal free. It has a barely

registering

> > > trace of Barium, an essential element. I am thankful for this good

> > > water and wish I could share my good water with all of you who

worry

> > > about the problem of tainted water.

> > >

> > > -------------That's great that you're water is fine and metal

> > free, and how nice of you to want to share! It's probably better than

> > most of the bottled water people buy! Do you mind saying where you

> > live? Just curious.--------Jackie

> > >

> > >>>>>>>>>I live in western Oregon<<<<<<<<<< Llamabb

> > \

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

She's talking about testing her well water for heavy metals. We had a long

exchange yesterday on this thread, talking about alot of stuff, because she has

mercury, lead, and silver. She got lead poisoning from the water in an

apartment she lived in a long time ago, mercury from her fillings, and silver

from her hot tub. Anyway, we discussed well water too, because mine has arsenic

in it, and she said she has tested their well water and it is clean. So that is

the test she is referring to now. She has had hair tests also. That's where

she found the silver.------------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Klipfel wrote:

You still have not answered the question. What kind

of a test did you have done? Was it a urine test?

Was it a DMSA, or EDTA challenge, urine test? Was it

a hair analysis test? The price appears high. The

DirectLabs.com test that is recommended and analyzed

in Dr. Cutler's second book, costs about $100.

Please let us know what kind of test that you had this

lab perform. What was the sample you provided to them

and what was their name for the test they performed?

K.

--- llamabb llamabb@...> wrote:

> I used an independent lab in our city that I have

> used previously for

> hay analysis as well. They are certified etc. We

> did a test they run

> for 8 toxic metals. It included bacteria and such.

> I think I asked

> for something additional too. It cost about $125 if

> I remember

> correctly. Coffey Laboratories Inc. in Portland,

> Oregon. Everything

> was done pretty quickly except for mercury. That

> took a lot more time

> before they got it done.

>

>

>

> >

> > llamabb,

> > Wondering what water test you used? what

> company? thanks

> >

>

> > > > The most recent test was last winter. Our

> > > > water is wonderful and toxic metal free. It

> has a barely

> registering

> > > > trace of Barium, an essential element. I am

> thankful for this good

> > > > water and wish I could share my good water

> with all of you who

> worry

> > > > about the problem of tainted water.

> > > >

> > > > -------------That's great that you're water

> is fine and metal

> > > free, and how nice of you to want to share!

> It's probably better than

> > > most of the bottled water people buy! Do you

> mind saying where you

> > > live? Just curious.--------Jackie

> > > >

> > > >>>>>>>>>I live in western Oregon<<<<<<<<<<

> Llamabb

> > > \

>

>

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Hi ,

She's talking about testing her well water for heavy metals. We had a long

exchange yesterday on this thread, talking about alot of stuff, because she has

mercury, lead, and silver. She got lead poisoning from the water in an

apartment she lived in a long time ago, mercury from her fillings, and silver

from her hot tub. Anyway, we discussed well water too, because mine has arsenic

in it, and she said she has tested their well water and it is clean. So that is

the test she is referring to now. She has had hair tests also. That's where

she found the silver.------------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation Klipfel wrote:

You still have not answered the question. What kind

of a test did you have done? Was it a urine test?

Was it a DMSA, or EDTA challenge, urine test? Was it

a hair analysis test? The price appears high. The

DirectLabs.com test that is recommended and analyzed

in Dr. Cutler's second book, costs about $100.

Please let us know what kind of test that you had this

lab perform. What was the sample you provided to them

and what was their name for the test they performed?

K.

--- llamabb llamabb@...> wrote:

> I used an independent lab in our city that I have

> used previously for

> hay analysis as well. They are certified etc. We

> did a test they run

> for 8 toxic metals. It included bacteria and such.

> I think I asked

> for something additional too. It cost about $125 if

> I remember

> correctly. Coffey Laboratories Inc. in Portland,

> Oregon. Everything

> was done pretty quickly except for mercury. That

> took a lot more time

> before they got it done.

>

>

>

> >

> > llamabb,

> > Wondering what water test you used? what

> company? thanks

> >

>

> > > > The most recent test was last winter. Our

> > > > water is wonderful and toxic metal free. It

> has a barely

> registering

> > > > trace of Barium, an essential element. I am

> thankful for this good

> > > > water and wish I could share my good water

> with all of you who

> worry

> > > > about the problem of tainted water.

> > > >

> > > > -------------That's great that you're water

> is fine and metal

> > > free, and how nice of you to want to share!

> It's probably better than

> > > most of the bottled water people buy! Do you

> mind saying where you

> > > live? Just curious.--------Jackie

> > > >

> > > >>>>>>>>>I live in western Oregon<<<<<<<<<<

> Llamabb

> > > \

>

>

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