Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Good luck with the herbs. My reaction was not right away; it was after using them for about a month. Good for you for doing your homework. I have to be that way more! > > Hi > > Thats very intersesting thanks for posting. As you say it could have > been from redistribution but you obviously did the right thing and > stopped taking them. Do you remember how long it was after you > started taking the herbs did you develop those symptoms? Was it > straightaway or some time afterwards? Yes the issue of contamination > is important to be aware of too is I'm sure I've read the same thing > about Chinese herbs. The herbs I'm using are from Taiwan and I did > check with the herbal company about contamination issues before I > bought them and they reassured me that they would not contain heavy > metals because they have to follow strict guidelines and they test > all the herbs themselves in the UK so I do feel reassured by that. So > I hopefully the side effects I've been getting is from the actions of > the herbs themselves, and hopefully its not from redistribution > either! > > Thanks > > Anne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Anne. That was nice to hear. Thanks for mentioning it. Finding a good doctor is truly a wonderful thing. I'll mention though, that there may be more in the way of knowledge about mercury in these system than we may know. For one thing, it appears that metals have been discovered independently, three times: by the Chinese, the Indians, and the people of the Middle East. Each gave rise to an alchemy/alchemical medicine. Each form of medicine has an arm that uses minerals and metals - in very small quantities, mind you, but they do make use of them. Chinese medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, and Unani medicine all have arms that are alchemical. In fact, Paracelcus, who introduced metals into the western pharmacopea, was using mercury, arsenic, antimony and laudanum (opium) after having been dabbling in fairly newly translated (al)chemical (middle-eastern) texts. (Most of that stuff the Romans had destroyed, for fear that someone would make gold out of lead and destroy the financial basis of their empire, which was their monopoly on the production of precious metals.) The thing is, he was clearly completely poisoned and had no comprehension of the texts - he was using truly massive quantities of the stuff while mocking herbal medicine (that went back to Hippocrates through Galen) as " too weak " . (Thus, our modern " heroic " medicine.) I found a really intersting article on Indian yogic uses of mercury (which has always been associated with the mystical). I wonder about it's veracity, though the author is a double PhD (Sanskrit and Philosophy), runs a well-known ashram in Western PA, and clearly knows how to identify the medical effects of mercury. Also, the yogic purification techniques depend on the use of sulfur, which we know can bind powerfully to mercury, which is spread on the skin, which we also know is an important eliminatory organ. I also wonder about the author's own condition, given that he went on this quest, and seems to understand at least some aspects of it so well. http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/religion/hinduism/yoga/rt199512immortalityandm\ ysticism.txt - Dave. Posted by: " gill_annie " gill_annie@... gill_annie@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Chinese%20Herbs%2FBlood%20toni\ fiers%20and%20redistribution%20-%20O%2FT> gill_annie http://profiles.yahoo.com/gill_annie> Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:00 am (PDT) Hi Dave Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad that you had so much benefit from the Chinese herbal treatment. Thats the great thing about Chinese Medicine and other ancient health systems Ayurveda isn't it, that even though they are lacking when it comes to issues such as chelation they contain so much wisdom which is completely missed by allopathic medicine because they do see the big picture and work on strengthening on strengthening our bodies as a whole. And as you say particularly so with the older practitioners because they have such a wealth of knowledge. The herbs I've been using are based on a very old Chinese formula called Rehmannia 6 but with a few other herbs added to it and like with you I've had lots of benefits like feeling warmer, more colour to my cheeks, brighter eyes, better concentration and mood so for now I'm happy to continue taking them and hope they dont cause any problems with regards to the mercury. I hope you continue to make improvements. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Anne. That was nice to hear. Thanks for mentioning it. Finding a good doctor is truly a wonderful thing. I'll mention though, that there may be more in the way of knowledge about mercury in these system than we may know. For one thing, it appears that metals have been discovered independently, three times: by the Chinese, the Indians, and the people of the Middle East. Each gave rise to an alchemy/alchemical medicine. Each form of medicine has an arm that uses minerals and metals - in very small quantities, mind you, but they do make use of them. Chinese medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, and Unani medicine all have arms that are alchemical. In fact, Paracelcus, who introduced metals into the western pharmacopea, was using mercury, arsenic, antimony and laudanum (opium) after having been dabbling in fairly newly translated (al)chemical (middle-eastern) texts. (Most of that stuff the Romans had destroyed, for fear that someone would make gold out of lead and destroy the financial basis of their empire, which was their monopoly on the production of precious metals.) The thing is, he was clearly completely poisoned and had no comprehension of the texts - he was using truly massive quantities of the stuff while mocking herbal medicine (that went back to Hippocrates through Galen) as " too weak " . (Thus, our modern " heroic " medicine.) I found a really intersting article on Indian yogic uses of mercury (which has always been associated with the mystical). I wonder about it's veracity, though the author is a double PhD (Sanskrit and Philosophy), runs a well-known ashram in Western PA, and clearly knows how to identify the medical effects of mercury. Also, the yogic purification techniques depend on the use of sulfur, which we know can bind powerfully to mercury, which is spread on the skin, which we also know is an important eliminatory organ. I also wonder about the author's own condition, given that he went on this quest, and seems to understand at least some aspects of it so well. http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/religion/hinduism/yoga/rt199512immortalityandm\ ysticism.txt - Dave. Posted by: " gill_annie " gill_annie@... gill_annie@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Chinese%20Herbs%2FBlood%20toni\ fiers%20and%20redistribution%20-%20O%2FT> gill_annie http://profiles.yahoo.com/gill_annie> Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:00 am (PDT) Hi Dave Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad that you had so much benefit from the Chinese herbal treatment. Thats the great thing about Chinese Medicine and other ancient health systems Ayurveda isn't it, that even though they are lacking when it comes to issues such as chelation they contain so much wisdom which is completely missed by allopathic medicine because they do see the big picture and work on strengthening on strengthening our bodies as a whole. And as you say particularly so with the older practitioners because they have such a wealth of knowledge. The herbs I've been using are based on a very old Chinese formula called Rehmannia 6 but with a few other herbs added to it and like with you I've had lots of benefits like feeling warmer, more colour to my cheeks, brighter eyes, better concentration and mood so for now I'm happy to continue taking them and hope they dont cause any problems with regards to the mercury. I hope you continue to make improvements. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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