Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 You said: " For example, if I had no other means to attain the goal, would taking the small-frequent doses of DMSA alone, with no other supplements, get rid of the mercury? " -------I believe Andy has stated in AI that the more effective chelator is the ALA. That's the one that gets the mercury out of your brain, not the DMSA. The DMSA is for reducing the side effects of the ALA. Please anyone correct me if I am misremembering this from the book. You said you're a beginner. You didn't say if you've had your amalgams removed or not, or whether you've started chelation yet or not. So I can't help wondering whether you have had any of these symptoms of new Hg exposure or redistribution yet. I never experienced hypoadrenal symptoms until after my amalgams were removed--at the 2 month mercury dump " slump " Andy warns about. Prior to that, I had no idea what a miserable time I was in for. Never even bothered to think about adrenals being a problem. As soon as it affects you personally, it suddenly becomes very important. If you have a high tolerance for discomfort, then go ahead and save money that would go to supplements. I understand the situation completely. I ended up selling a lot of our stuff in our closet on eBay to make money for supplements, and I've been able to do it! Without that, I wouldn't be able to afford the supplements or the amalgam removal. (That's right-- eBay paid for my amalgam removal, and usually I'm not even a regular eBay seller!) You may not be working or go out much, so I understand you don't have a lot of demands on you. However, if you haven't gotten very far into chelation process yet, let me say you would be best not to underestimate the overwhelming power of Hg redistribution to disrupt your life. One example: Both myself and my husband have inadvertently damaged relationships with very close friends quite badly because of severely overreacting to our friends. This happened to each of us during a time when the mercury was dumping into our bloodstreams quite a bit, causing new exposure/redistribution. We value their friendships, so now we have to repair the bridges we burned. And we ought to give them a list of the symptoms we anticipate, like Andy says. Also important to consider: a lot of the supplements Andy recommends are not merely to help you feel better. Some of them are truly necessary to enable your internal systems to be ABLE to get the mercury out. Selenium and Zinc, for example, bind with mercury and make it passive and poorly soluble. Milk Thistle helps your liver do its job. And if your liver can't do its job, chelating won't be of much use, will it? So one really must use certain supplements at least at a basic level while chelating. That said, check out Dr. Lam's site on adrenals (and probably other problems, too, like hypothyroid). Along with a very thorough explanation of hypoadrenal problems, his treatment suggestions are all lifestyle changes that won't cost you a penny. As soon as I started applying just a few of his recommended lifestyle changes, my hypoadrenal symptoms made great improvement. I was pretty happy about that! Here's the link to Robin's original post, which was long. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/24246 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 You said: " For example, if I had no other means to attain the goal, would taking the small-frequent doses of DMSA alone, with no other supplements, get rid of the mercury? " -------I believe Andy has stated in AI that the more effective chelator is the ALA. That's the one that gets the mercury out of your brain, not the DMSA. The DMSA is for reducing the side effects of the ALA. Please anyone correct me if I am misremembering this from the book. You said you're a beginner. You didn't say if you've had your amalgams removed or not, or whether you've started chelation yet or not. So I can't help wondering whether you have had any of these symptoms of new Hg exposure or redistribution yet. I never experienced hypoadrenal symptoms until after my amalgams were removed--at the 2 month mercury dump " slump " Andy warns about. Prior to that, I had no idea what a miserable time I was in for. Never even bothered to think about adrenals being a problem. As soon as it affects you personally, it suddenly becomes very important. If you have a high tolerance for discomfort, then go ahead and save money that would go to supplements. I understand the situation completely. I ended up selling a lot of our stuff in our closet on eBay to make money for supplements, and I've been able to do it! Without that, I wouldn't be able to afford the supplements or the amalgam removal. (That's right-- eBay paid for my amalgam removal, and usually I'm not even a regular eBay seller!) You may not be working or go out much, so I understand you don't have a lot of demands on you. However, if you haven't gotten very far into chelation process yet, let me say you would be best not to underestimate the overwhelming power of Hg redistribution to disrupt your life. One example: Both myself and my husband have inadvertently damaged relationships with very close friends quite badly because of severely overreacting to our friends. This happened to each of us during a time when the mercury was dumping into our bloodstreams quite a bit, causing new exposure/redistribution. We value their friendships, so now we have to repair the bridges we burned. And we ought to give them a list of the symptoms we anticipate, like Andy says. Also important to consider: a lot of the supplements Andy recommends are not merely to help you feel better. Some of them are truly necessary to enable your internal systems to be ABLE to get the mercury out. Selenium and Zinc, for example, bind with mercury and make it passive and poorly soluble. Milk Thistle helps your liver do its job. And if your liver can't do its job, chelating won't be of much use, will it? So one really must use certain supplements at least at a basic level while chelating. That said, check out Dr. Lam's site on adrenals (and probably other problems, too, like hypothyroid). Along with a very thorough explanation of hypoadrenal problems, his treatment suggestions are all lifestyle changes that won't cost you a penny. As soon as I started applying just a few of his recommended lifestyle changes, my hypoadrenal symptoms made great improvement. I was pretty happy about that! Here's the link to Robin's original post, which was long. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/24246 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 > You said you're a beginner. You didn't say if you've had your amalgams > removed or not, or > whether you've started chelation yet or not. So I can't help wondering > whether you have > had any of these symptoms of new Hg exposure or redistribution yet. I > never experienced > hypoadrenal symptoms until after my amalgams were removed--at the 2 month > mercury > dump " slump " Andy warns about. Prior to that, I had no idea what a > miserable time I was > in for. Never even bothered to think about adrenals being a problem. As > soon as it affects > you personally, it suddenly becomes very important. Hi , I'll second that. I never knew about adrenal problems until I started to chelate. It hit me the first round and slammed quite hard for some time after that. I believe my thyroid took the smack after removal a long time ago. To me adrenal and thyroid support (gentle e.g. ACE or heavier e.g HydroCortisone) are mandatory before mercury removal and chelation. Your comments are spot on about how mercury toxicity can change our personality, mostly making it more reactive and aggressive. Thanks, Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 > You said you're a beginner. You didn't say if you've had your amalgams > removed or not, or > whether you've started chelation yet or not. So I can't help wondering > whether you have > had any of these symptoms of new Hg exposure or redistribution yet. I > never experienced > hypoadrenal symptoms until after my amalgams were removed--at the 2 month > mercury > dump " slump " Andy warns about. Prior to that, I had no idea what a > miserable time I was > in for. Never even bothered to think about adrenals being a problem. As > soon as it affects > you personally, it suddenly becomes very important. Hi , I'll second that. I never knew about adrenal problems until I started to chelate. It hit me the first round and slammed quite hard for some time after that. I believe my thyroid took the smack after removal a long time ago. To me adrenal and thyroid support (gentle e.g. ACE or heavier e.g HydroCortisone) are mandatory before mercury removal and chelation. Your comments are spot on about how mercury toxicity can change our personality, mostly making it more reactive and aggressive. Thanks, Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 > I'll second that. I never knew about adrenal problems until I started > to chelate. I agree with all and Dean have to say but that wasn't anywhere near what I was attempting to communicate; the thrust of my post was more philosophical in nature: We can't all do everything all the time so how do we make choices in our personal approach to treatment. That's all. And yes, I've had all my amalgams removed and all that. I'm new but I'm a quick study :-) ~robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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