Re: Oral DMPS and its oxidation?

[Guest guest]

>

> The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> the TD DMPS.

>The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

No. It doesn't make any sense at all. I am still using a DMPS

prescription that was prepared a year ago and I can still feel the

potency.

> They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

>

Perhaps they could email the Falls Pharmacy in Seattle and ask them

how to make the capsules. The website should be in the links section.

> He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the oral

> DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

>

I know it is frustrating, but keep trying. There may be other

compounding pharmacies that you could go to, like in a different city.

I started receiving my compounded prescriptions from a city about 600

k away and always received them the next day, no delivery charge.

Try to get the capsules made up in 5 mg doses at first, or at an

amount that you would feel comfortable dividing down to 5 mg (for

example 25 mg capsules can be divided by 5 to get 5 x 5 mg capsules,

or they can be divided by 2 to get 12.5 mg capsules, and so on)

J

> You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes. I

> don't know what is going on.

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> the TD DMPS.

>The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

No. It doesn't make any sense at all. I am still using a DMPS

prescription that was prepared a year ago and I can still feel the

potency.

> They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

>

Perhaps they could email the Falls Pharmacy in Seattle and ask them

how to make the capsules. The website should be in the links section.

> He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the oral

> DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

>

I know it is frustrating, but keep trying. There may be other

compounding pharmacies that you could go to, like in a different city.

I started receiving my compounded prescriptions from a city about 600

k away and always received them the next day, no delivery charge.

Try to get the capsules made up in 5 mg doses at first, or at an

amount that you would feel comfortable dividing down to 5 mg (for

example 25 mg capsules can be divided by 5 to get 5 x 5 mg capsules,

or they can be divided by 2 to get 12.5 mg capsules, and so on)

J

> You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes. I

> don't know what is going on.

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!!

TK--- unless he is doing something totally different than everybody

else he is not correct and probably not the person to get this from.

Oral DMPS should be in capsules with a filler ie preferably something

like vit c

Does this make any sense?

> They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

>

> He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the

oral

> DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

>

> You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes.

I

> don't know what is going on.

TK-- possibly either the pharmacist or the dr is trying to make more

money off you or they do not know what they are doing.

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

Toowittybird

may i ask you where you live? I am also in Europe, and would love to

find a source or doctor to prescribe DMPS.

thanks

Nicola

>

> The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

>

> He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the

oral

> DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

>

> You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes.

I

> don't know what is going on.

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!!

>

>

>

> TK--- unless he is doing something totally different than everybody

> else he is not correct and probably not the person to get this from.

> Oral DMPS should be in capsules with a filler ie preferably something

> like vit c

>

I called Falls Pharmacy to find out what they do. They add ascorbic

acid to the capsules. I am going to ask my pharmacist to email them to

get the instructions. Let's see if they still hum and haw.

>

>

> Does this make any sense?

> > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> >

> > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the

> oral

> > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> >

> > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes.

> I

> > don't know what is going on.

>

>

> TK-- possibly either the pharmacist or the dr is trying to make more

> money off you or they do not know what they are doing.

>

Well the doc is a DAN doc and I believe they only prescribe TD DMPS

(maybe that's what they are familiar with - reactions, dosages etc -

not sure). The pharmacist actually cautioned me that the pills will be

much more expensive than the TD DMPS.

>

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!!

>

>

>

> TK--- unless he is doing something totally different than everybody

> else he is not correct and probably not the person to get this from.

> Oral DMPS should be in capsules with a filler ie preferably something

> like vit c

>

I called Falls Pharmacy to find out what they do. They add ascorbic

acid to the capsules. I am going to ask my pharmacist to email them to

get the instructions. Let's see if they still hum and haw.

>

>

> Does this make any sense?

> > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> >

> > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the

> oral

> > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> >

> > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes.

> I

> > don't know what is going on.

>

>

> TK-- possibly either the pharmacist or the dr is trying to make more

> money off you or they do not know what they are doing.

>

Well the doc is a DAN doc and I believe they only prescribe TD DMPS

(maybe that's what they are familiar with - reactions, dosages etc -

not sure). The pharmacist actually cautioned me that the pills will be

much more expensive than the TD DMPS.

>

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!!

>

>

>

> TK--- unless he is doing something totally different than everybody

> else he is not correct and probably not the person to get this from.

> Oral DMPS should be in capsules with a filler ie preferably something

> like vit c

>

I called Falls Pharmacy to find out what they do. They add ascorbic

acid to the capsules. I am going to ask my pharmacist to email them to

get the instructions. Let's see if they still hum and haw.

>

>

> Does this make any sense?

> > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> >

> > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the

> oral

> > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> >

> > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes.

> I

> > don't know what is going on.

>

>

> TK-- possibly either the pharmacist or the dr is trying to make more

> money off you or they do not know what they are doing.

>

Well the doc is a DAN doc and I believe they only prescribe TD DMPS

(maybe that's what they are familiar with - reactions, dosages etc -

not sure). The pharmacist actually cautioned me that the pills will be

much more expensive than the TD DMPS.

>

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If you can get hold of the 100mg capsules from Heyl then compounding

your own dosages is *dead easy*. All it takes is a set of $20

electronic scales (ebay), a capsule filler (e.g. " cap em quick " ) and

some basic math.

Absolutely no fiddling around whatsoever. No reliance on skill or

judgement. Just good old fashioned math.

Lets say I want 10 dmps capsules of 20mg each. I take 2 caps of 100mg

add in 0.6mg x 10 of vitamin C (=6g). Put in an empty jar - mix it up.

Then pour into capsule filler. End of story.

.

>

> The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

>

> He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the oral

> DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

>

> You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes. I

> don't know what is going on.

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

If you can get hold of the 100mg capsules from Heyl then compounding

your own dosages is *dead easy*. All it takes is a set of $20

electronic scales (ebay), a capsule filler (e.g. " cap em quick " ) and

some basic math.

Absolutely no fiddling around whatsoever. No reliance on skill or

judgement. Just good old fashioned math.

Lets say I want 10 dmps capsules of 20mg each. I take 2 caps of 100mg

add in 0.6mg x 10 of vitamin C (=6g). Put in an empty jar - mix it up.

Then pour into capsule filler. End of story.

.

>

> The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

>

> He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the oral

> DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

>

> You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes. I

> don't know what is going on.

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

If you can get hold of the 100mg capsules from Heyl then compounding

your own dosages is *dead easy*. All it takes is a set of $20

electronic scales (ebay), a capsule filler (e.g. " cap em quick " ) and

some basic math.

Absolutely no fiddling around whatsoever. No reliance on skill or

judgement. Just good old fashioned math.

Lets say I want 10 dmps capsules of 20mg each. I take 2 caps of 100mg

add in 0.6mg x 10 of vitamin C (=6g). Put in an empty jar - mix it up.

Then pour into capsule filler. End of story.

.

>

> The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

>

> He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the oral

> DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

>

> You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes. I

> don't know what is going on.

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> >

> > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the oral

> > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> >

> > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes. I

> > don't know what is going on.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> >

> > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the oral

> > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> >

> > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes. I

> > don't know what is going on.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> >

> > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the oral

> > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> >

> > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said yes. I

> > don't know what is going on.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If you are starting on 1mg per cap (which is an excessively small

dosage if you ask me) you'll need to make 100 compounded caps from 1

100mg dmps cap.

You use as much vitamin C (i.e. filler) as is needed to fill all the

capsules to the top. An empty size 0 capsule (the big end) holds about

0.6g of powder, so multiply by the number of capsules you are filling

and thats how much vitamin C to use.

For example if you are filling 100 size 0 caps then you will need to

use 60g of vitamin C.

.

> Thanks for the tip. Just one more question. How does one determine the

> ratio of Vit C to the mg of DMPS? I would need to start DMPS at a much

> lower dosage (actually 1mg each and work it up by 1mg each round).

>

> >

> > If you can get hold of the 100mg capsules from Heyl then compounding

> > your own dosages is *dead easy*. All it takes is a set of $20

> > electronic scales (ebay), a capsule filler (e.g. " cap em quick " ) and

> > some basic math.

> >

> > Absolutely no fiddling around whatsoever. No reliance on skill or

> > judgement. Just good old fashioned math.

> >

> > Lets say I want 10 dmps capsules of 20mg each. I take 2 caps of 100mg

> > add in 0.6mg x 10 of vitamin C (=6g). Put in an empty jar - mix it up.

> > Then pour into capsule filler. End of story.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

> > >

> > > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> > > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> > >

> > > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the

oral

> > > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> > >

> > > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said

yes. I

> > > don't know what is going on.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If you are starting on 1mg per cap (which is an excessively small

dosage if you ask me) you'll need to make 100 compounded caps from 1

100mg dmps cap.

You use as much vitamin C (i.e. filler) as is needed to fill all the

capsules to the top. An empty size 0 capsule (the big end) holds about

0.6g of powder, so multiply by the number of capsules you are filling

and thats how much vitamin C to use.

For example if you are filling 100 size 0 caps then you will need to

use 60g of vitamin C.

.

> Thanks for the tip. Just one more question. How does one determine the

> ratio of Vit C to the mg of DMPS? I would need to start DMPS at a much

> lower dosage (actually 1mg each and work it up by 1mg each round).

>

> >

> > If you can get hold of the 100mg capsules from Heyl then compounding

> > your own dosages is *dead easy*. All it takes is a set of $20

> > electronic scales (ebay), a capsule filler (e.g. " cap em quick " ) and

> > some basic math.

> >

> > Absolutely no fiddling around whatsoever. No reliance on skill or

> > judgement. Just good old fashioned math.

> >

> > Lets say I want 10 dmps capsules of 20mg each. I take 2 caps of 100mg

> > add in 0.6mg x 10 of vitamin C (=6g). Put in an empty jar - mix it up.

> > Then pour into capsule filler. End of story.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

> > >

> > > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> > > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> > >

> > > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the

oral

> > > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> > >

> > > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said

yes. I

> > > don't know what is going on.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If you are starting on 1mg per cap (which is an excessively small

dosage if you ask me) you'll need to make 100 compounded caps from 1

100mg dmps cap.

You use as much vitamin C (i.e. filler) as is needed to fill all the

capsules to the top. An empty size 0 capsule (the big end) holds about

0.6g of powder, so multiply by the number of capsules you are filling

and thats how much vitamin C to use.

For example if you are filling 100 size 0 caps then you will need to

use 60g of vitamin C.

.

> Thanks for the tip. Just one more question. How does one determine the

> ratio of Vit C to the mg of DMPS? I would need to start DMPS at a much

> lower dosage (actually 1mg each and work it up by 1mg each round).

>

> >

> > If you can get hold of the 100mg capsules from Heyl then compounding

> > your own dosages is *dead easy*. All it takes is a set of $20

> > electronic scales (ebay), a capsule filler (e.g. " cap em quick " ) and

> > some basic math.

> >

> > Absolutely no fiddling around whatsoever. No reliance on skill or

> > judgement. Just good old fashioned math.

> >

> > Lets say I want 10 dmps capsules of 20mg each. I take 2 caps of 100mg

> > add in 0.6mg x 10 of vitamin C (=6g). Put in an empty jar - mix it up.

> > Then pour into capsule filler. End of story.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

> > >

> > > The pharmacist I asked (here in Europe), to prepare oral DMPS pills

> > > for me says he does not prepare the oral version, but instead makes

> > > the TD DMPS. The reason given to me was that the oral DMPS will lose

> > > its potency in 2-3 days due to oxidation!! Does this make any sense?

> > > They cannot make the pills no matter what the dosage amount.

> > >

> > > He had told me a couple of weeks ago that if I really needed the

oral

> > > DMPS in place of TD DMPS he could make them as little as 1 mg each

> > > pill. I have cancelled my order as of now.

> > >

> > > You may or may not recall, I had an issue with my doc about using TD

> > > DMPS due to the possibility of skin reactions. So when I asked the

> > > pharmacist if he could make the oral pills instead he had said

yes. I

> > > don't know what is going on.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> >

>