Re: Think I Need DMSA Continuous. Great Antidepressant. Off Rounds Real Bad.

[Guest guest]

If I were you, I would try to find the absolute smallest dose that works, if

you wish to take it continuously for its antidepressant effects. If it

still works at half or less of the current dose, that would at least make it

safer for continuous use.

Dean

Think I Need DMSA Continuous. Great

Antidepressant. Off Rounds Real Bad.

Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

some anxiety.

So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

except that it actually works.

I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

round than not.

All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

[Guest guest]

If I were you, I would try to find the absolute smallest dose that works, if

you wish to take it continuously for its antidepressant effects. If it

still works at half or less of the current dose, that would at least make it

safer for continuous use.

Dean

Think I Need DMSA Continuous. Great

Antidepressant. Off Rounds Real Bad.

Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

some anxiety.

So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

except that it actually works.

I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

round than not.

All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

[Guest guest]

If I were you, I would try to find the absolute smallest dose that works, if

you wish to take it continuously for its antidepressant effects. If it

still works at half or less of the current dose, that would at least make it

safer for continuous use.

Dean

Think I Need DMSA Continuous. Great

Antidepressant. Off Rounds Real Bad.

Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

some anxiety.

So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

except that it actually works.

I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

round than not.

All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

[Guest guest]

--Interesting comments...I just started on lamictol because of my mood swings

and

ringing in the ears. I have only taken three days worth (25mg) per day, which

is a very low

dose. In addition, I dropped back to 12.5 mg of DMSA (4days on three days off)

and am

doing great on both. My mood is much more smooth and people tell me I look

brighter. I

was wondering...

Is it better to boost the DMSA to a level of " feeling the side affects " and then

take more

time between rounds? Or is it better to do low levels, feel good and chelate

more

frequently? Which is more effective for removal of Mercury?

kat

- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Dean " wrote:

>

> If I were you, I would try to find the absolute smallest dose that works, if

> you wish to take it continuously for its antidepressant effects. If it

> still works at half or less of the current dose, that would at least make it

> safer for continuous use.

>

> Dean

>

>

>

>

> Think I Need DMSA Continuous. Great

> Antidepressant. Off Rounds Real Bad.

>

>

> Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

> not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

> needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

> me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

> removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

>

> I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

> worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

> I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

> 12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

> my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

> some anxiety.

>

> So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

> All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

> and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

> how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

> a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

> except that it actually works.

>

> I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

> were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

> much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

> first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

> improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

> day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

> much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

> says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

> round than not.

>

> All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

> church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

> dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

> neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

> physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

> staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

> tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

> something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

> massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

>

> I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

> just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

> feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

> metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

> will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

> starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

> spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

> opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--Interesting comments...I just started on lamictol because of my mood swings

and

ringing in the ears. I have only taken three days worth (25mg) per day, which

is a very low

dose. In addition, I dropped back to 12.5 mg of DMSA (4days on three days off)

and am

doing great on both. My mood is much more smooth and people tell me I look

brighter. I

was wondering...

Is it better to boost the DMSA to a level of " feeling the side affects " and then

take more

time between rounds? Or is it better to do low levels, feel good and chelate

more

frequently? Which is more effective for removal of Mercury?

kat

- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Dean " wrote:

>

> If I were you, I would try to find the absolute smallest dose that works, if

> you wish to take it continuously for its antidepressant effects. If it

> still works at half or less of the current dose, that would at least make it

> safer for continuous use.

>

> Dean

>

>

>

>

> Think I Need DMSA Continuous. Great

> Antidepressant. Off Rounds Real Bad.

>

>

> Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

> not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

> needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

> me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

> removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

>

> I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

> worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

> I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

> 12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

> my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

> some anxiety.

>

> So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

> All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

> and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

> how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

> a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

> except that it actually works.

>

> I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

> were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

> much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

> first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

> improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

> day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

> much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

> says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

> round than not.

>

> All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

> church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

> dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

> neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

> physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

> staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

> tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

> something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

> massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

>

> I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

> just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

> feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

> metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

> will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

> starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

> spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

> opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--Interesting comments...I just started on lamictol because of my mood swings

and

ringing in the ears. I have only taken three days worth (25mg) per day, which

is a very low

dose. In addition, I dropped back to 12.5 mg of DMSA (4days on three days off)

and am

doing great on both. My mood is much more smooth and people tell me I look

brighter. I

was wondering...

Is it better to boost the DMSA to a level of " feeling the side affects " and then

take more

time between rounds? Or is it better to do low levels, feel good and chelate

more

frequently? Which is more effective for removal of Mercury?

kat

- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Dean " wrote:

>

> If I were you, I would try to find the absolute smallest dose that works, if

> you wish to take it continuously for its antidepressant effects. If it

> still works at half or less of the current dose, that would at least make it

> safer for continuous use.

>

> Dean

>

>

>

>

> Think I Need DMSA Continuous. Great

> Antidepressant. Off Rounds Real Bad.

>

>

> Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

> not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

> needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

> me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

> removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

>

> I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

> worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

> I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

> 12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

> my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

> some anxiety.

>

> So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

> All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

> and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

> how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

> a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

> except that it actually works.

>

> I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

> were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

> much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

> first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

> improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

> day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

> much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

> says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

> round than not.

>

> All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

> church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

> dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

> neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

> physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

> staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

> tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

> something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

> massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

>

> I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

> just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

> feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

> metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

> will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

> starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

> spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

> opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Andy has said people who are better on chelators often feel better

with more sulfur in their diet. You could try increasing high thiol

foods and try NAC and possibly MSM. Perhaps this will give you a

similar benefit to taking DMSA.

I don't think it is guaranteed you will feel better on them.

I always felt better on DMSA (alone), though not as good or as

consistently as you do. I do not benefit from large amounts of

sulfur foods, and I do not feel the same way on DMPS or ALA.

DMSA does reduce neutrophils and I believe this is additive over

time. I think Andy gives two weeks as the maximum round length

for DMSA - not positive about that, I would have to look it up.

I would try increasing round length gradually up to that point.

You might find when your rounds are longer you won't feel as bad

on the off days.

--

>

> Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

> not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

> needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

> me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

> removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

>

> I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

> worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

> I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

> 12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

> my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

> some anxiety.

>

> So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

> All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

> and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

> how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

> a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

> except that it actually works.

>

> I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

> were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

> much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

> first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

> improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

> day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

> much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

> says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

> round than not.

>

> All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

> church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

> dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

> neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

> physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

> staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

> tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

> something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

> massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

>

> I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

> just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

> feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

> metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

> will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

> starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

> spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

> opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

>

[Guest guest]

Andy has said people who are better on chelators often feel better

with more sulfur in their diet. You could try increasing high thiol

foods and try NAC and possibly MSM. Perhaps this will give you a

similar benefit to taking DMSA.

I don't think it is guaranteed you will feel better on them.

I always felt better on DMSA (alone), though not as good or as

consistently as you do. I do not benefit from large amounts of

sulfur foods, and I do not feel the same way on DMPS or ALA.

DMSA does reduce neutrophils and I believe this is additive over

time. I think Andy gives two weeks as the maximum round length

for DMSA - not positive about that, I would have to look it up.

I would try increasing round length gradually up to that point.

You might find when your rounds are longer you won't feel as bad

on the off days.

--

>

> Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

> not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

> needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

> me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

> removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

>

> I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

> worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

> I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

> 12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

> my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

> some anxiety.

>

> So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

> All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

> and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

> how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

> a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

> except that it actually works.

>

> I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

> were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

> much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

> first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

> improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

> day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

> much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

> says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

> round than not.

>

> All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

> church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

> dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

> neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

> physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

> staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

> tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

> something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

> massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

>

> I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

> just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

> feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

> metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

> will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

> starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

> spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

> opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

>

[Guest guest]

Andy has said people who are better on chelators often feel better

with more sulfur in their diet. You could try increasing high thiol

foods and try NAC and possibly MSM. Perhaps this will give you a

similar benefit to taking DMSA.

I don't think it is guaranteed you will feel better on them.

I always felt better on DMSA (alone), though not as good or as

consistently as you do. I do not benefit from large amounts of

sulfur foods, and I do not feel the same way on DMPS or ALA.

DMSA does reduce neutrophils and I believe this is additive over

time. I think Andy gives two weeks as the maximum round length

for DMSA - not positive about that, I would have to look it up.

I would try increasing round length gradually up to that point.

You might find when your rounds are longer you won't feel as bad

on the off days.

--

>

> Could you all please share your thoughts with me? I realize DMSA is

> not supposed to be taken continuously. Something about the body

> needing to heal. What exactly needs to heal after a round? Seems to

> me the body is healing better when metals are contstantly being

> removed and not allowed to redistribute between rounds.

>

> I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

> worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

> I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

> 12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round, oh

> my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in with

> some anxiety.

>

> So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't know.

> All I know is that for some reason it does me a lot of good on it,

> and a lot of bad off it. Other than being a metal chelator, I wonder

> how it affects brain function? Serotonin? Dopamine? Etc. It has

> a " feel " to it of an antidepresant drug, sort of a serotonin feel,

> except that it actually works.

>

> I just finished round 4. First 2 rounds were 25mg. Second 2 rounds

> were 12.5mg. Rounds have been 6 days on, 7 to 14 days off. 12.5mg is

> much better than 25mg. General trend each round...more depressed the

> first 2 days, subtle lifting of depression and significant

> improvement in socializing and work function 3rd day, then from 4th

> day onward I am so much improved that other people comment on how

> much better I seem and look. I only stop a round because the book

> says to. It feels to me like a lot more damage is done by stopping a

> round than not.

>

> All I know is my life is so much better on DMSA. Work, family,

> church, everything. I noticed a few others have done continuous

> dosing. I want to. At only 12.5mg, I don't realistically see

> neutrophil risks and such. Actually, I believe my mental and

> physical risks off rounds significantly outweigh any risks of

> staying on a continuous round. Your thoughts? It's like I cannot

> tolerate any redistribution whatsoever. Or, maybe DMSA does

> something else besides chelate, because off round sure feels like a

> massive drug withdrawal syndrome to me.

>

> I wonder if somehow some of us just need a lot of sulfur? Or do I

> just feel better because metals are being removed? Weird. It sure

> feels to me like DMSA does something else besides just chelate

> metals. In any case, if I don't improve in the next day or two I

> will have to go back on it just to end the torture. I was scared

> starting DMSA because all the warnings and side effects and forums

> spoke of it causing depression and fatigue. For me, just the

> opposite. Great antidepressant and boosts energy too.

>

[Guest guest]

> > I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

> > 12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a round,

oh

> > my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in

with

> > some anxiety.

> >

> > So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't

know.

This was me as well. I went into fairly high doses as it

helped my mood -- only doing it once a month as I did find

that chelating was stressful on my kidneys --BUT it was very

hard on me in the end and I had to find some other parts of

my body balance to fix in order not to get the most

benefits from FDC...

I have found that DMSA and ALA were helping my digestion

and because of that I felt better on rounds.. I had a very

bad crisis with a bladder/kidney ecoli infection that

came on during a round so I stopped over the summer .

I fortunately got some advice from a new doctor I have

consulted and his suggestion of taking apple cider vinegar

has improved my digestion so much that I am again doing

rounds without any stress on my body... I need alot of

enzymes plus hydrochloric acid --- and I do do better

with sulfur foods. SO the sulfur in the DMSA was helping me

out.. I started taking alot of NAC and also quercitin

which sort of helped with my mood and digestion but I

still crashed.. We are all so different.. and who knows this

apple cider vinegar may not continue to help.. Good luck in

your search.

It is necessary to see the body as a whole--- our needs

for nourishment balanced with our need for proper detox.. How

is your digestion -- do you feel more depressed after

eating?? or after being around a certain chemical?? It is

not only the metals that make us ill..

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I've taken every antidepressant you can think of. Most make me feel

> > worse or have hugely intolerable side effects, even at small doses.

> > I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever had...DMSA

> >

Another thought.. The greatest percentage of serotonin is

found in the gut.. So that is why digestion and depression

is so linked.. If Dmsa helps the digestion you could very

well feel less depressed... I found that I did not

necesarily feel that I was having digestive problems in order

to feel depressed.. But with getting to know my triggers

my depression was linked to the food I ate and to my

digestion.. It was affected by hormones as well.. Again we

are a whole package.. THe lower our total body strength the

more we will react to foods and chemicals..

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> > > I accidentally found the best antidepressant I've ever

had...DMSA

> > > 12.5mg every 4 hours. But when I stop it at the end of a

round,

> oh

> > > my do I sink to the most unbearable scary lows ever, mixed in

> with

> > > some anxiety.

> > >

> > > So I want to stay on DMSA continuously. Weeks? Months? Don't

> know.

>

> This was me as well. I went into fairly high doses as

it

> helped my mood -- only doing it once a month as I did

find

> that chelating was stressful on my kidneys --BUT it was

very

> hard on me in the end and I had to find some other parts

of

> my body balance to fix in order not to get the most

> benefits from FDC...

>

> I have found that DMSA and ALA were helping my

digestion

> and because of that I felt better on rounds.. I had a

very

> bad crisis with a bladder/kidney ecoli infection that

> came on during a round so I stopped over the summer .

> I fortunately got some advice from a new doctor I

have

> consulted and his suggestion of taking apple cider

vinegar

> has improved my digestion so much that I am again doing

> rounds without any stress on my body... I need alot of

> enzymes plus hydrochloric acid --- and I do do better

> with sulfur foods. SO the sulfur in the DMSA was helping

me

> out.. I started taking alot of NAC and also quercitin

> which sort of helped with my mood and digestion but I

> still crashed.. We are all so different.. and who knows

this

> apple cider vinegar may not continue to help.. Good luck

in

> your search.

>

> It is necessary to see the body as a whole--- our

needs

> for nourishment balanced with our need for proper detox..

How

> is your digestion -- do you feel more depressed after

> eating?? or after being around a certain chemical?? It is

> not only the metals that make us ill..

>

>

>

,

Yes, I do feel more depressed, or sometimes not really depressed but

sluggish, withdrawn, foggy, not really all there, after eating. I

can't nail it down. Doesn't matter what I eat. Eating anything will

do it. Enzymes and probiotics didn't make any difference. Not sure,

but the 3 times I tried 1/2tsp apple cider vinegar I swear I felt

like a ton of garbage, much worse than I had been. Coincidence or

something else? Don't know.

I oftentimes have large volumes of gas (flatulence) without any

odor. Enzymes and probiotics did reduce those symptoms, but not

dependably. Sometimes symptoms happened anyway.

Digestion did improve on DMSA. All the reading I did said that DMSA

would make digestion worse due to its feeding of candida. I

experienced the opposite. Flatulence disappeared. I just felt better

all around. Very strange.

As you noted, there is a heavy concentration of serotonin receptors

in the gut. But how exactly DMSA affects serotonin I have no idea.

With experience on dozens of psychiatric meds, I do know what

dopamine " feels like " , what serotonin " feels like " , and what

norepinephrine " feels like " . DMSA to me feels like a psychiatric

drug that is gently tweeking serotonin and dopamine with about equal

affinity for both, and not affecting norepinephrine at all.