Re: Update, etc.

[Guest guest]

I think you're right. I need to get my Sherlock Holmes deerstalker hat out

of storage and figure out the trigger first. The chocolate was my favorite

American brand: Hershey's, so no, not a new type. We drink well water, goat

milk. I was bitten by a bumble bee (of all things) about a week ago, but had

only localized reaction. Maybe this is a total delayed reaction, as I am

very allergic to insect bites.

First thing I did when I got a chance at home was to do a google search of

Ultrainflamx, so I saw that page. I'm thinking of just buying some amino

acids and coupling with multivitamins to try and duplicate the amounts.

Actually, this theory about vitamins and amino acids mirrors many of the

threads on this list. I used L-Carnitine successfully a long time ago for

aches and pains of hypo. There is evidently a message left in the archives

of the ndgf, because someone contacted me about it recently.

So, if anyone sees a farmer dressed even funnier than usual, with a big

magnifying glass, that'd be me.

Red

In a message dated 11/14/2002 9:23:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,

graves_support writes:

> Are you SURE you can't think of ANYTHING that is different

> in the past few days? A new household cleaner. New fertilizer

> for plants. New filter in the furnace. You might have to

> analyze everything you come into contact with to figure

> this out. A different type of drinking water, different brand of

> milk..... Maybe even a different combination of foods.

> Was this chocolate a type you had never had before?

>

> Wish I could be of more help, but something like this

> takes detective work above and beyond. I sure hope you

> figure this out.

>

> ***************************************************************************

Courage doesn't always shout. Sometimes it is the quiet voice at the end of

the day that says, " I will try again tomorrow. "

[Guest guest]

Hey Red -

Guess I should have double-checked the time frame. Oh well, minor

details..... Sure, anticipatory reactions might account for

something, but not unanticipated bee stings.....

Re tap water: I wouldn't dare drink the swill that comes out of our

faucets in this town. My family AND my cats drink bottled water.

Now the City just started dumping ammonia into the public drinking

water, which keeps the chlorine from evaporating out, even if you

leave it standing for 24 hours. They call it " chloramines. "

All the notice we got was a 3 " X 5 " postcard (crammed in with

Tuesday's " throwaway ads " ). It was labeled " Notice regarding fish "

saying that you had to go out and buy MORE chemicals to offset the

ammonia or it will kill your pet fish. Wonder what it will do to US,

with 98 percent fluid in our bodies? The LEAST they could have done

was send a LARGER postcard saying, " Notice regarding drinking water "

but that would have been to above-board for these sneaks. The LAST

thing the city council wants here is opposing input from its

consituents..... I hope your well water is better than this.

No problem, my research on this just triggered more ideas for me

about other things. Best of luck to you and hope you find an answer

soon. I HATE hives, too!

Best Wishes,

Chris

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> > Well Red, you can probably put that Sherlock Holmes hat and

> > magnifying glass away now. The bumble bee sting was more than

> likely

> > the culprit. Even bumble bees can cause bad reactions.

> >

> Oh, Granny, you came so close! You did a lot of work, too!

> Fortunately, I wrote privately to Jeannette about awaking with

> swollen lips two mornings in a row. The email was dated October 28

> and I didn't get stung until NOv. 9th, so it would have had to have

> been an anticipatory reaction as well as a delayed one.

>

> Sorry, I've got to keep the deerstalker cap on. At least we

> collectively eliminated one possibility. Now, we're down to

> chocolate and ??? But, no! Had I been eating chocolate befoe Oct.

> 28? I think not. Good work, Sherlock.

>

> Now, I'll have to consider Simon's cheery suggestion about icky

> things in well water. I'll bet all you city water folks have even

> worse stuff, but what the heck, it's easy to take a sample and get

it

> tested.

>

> I see that there are at least two other threads on this list having

> to do with nutrition and supplements as possible therapy for what

> ails us. This morning, I went to Walmart and bought a reasonably

> priced bottle of amino acids to couple with my multivitamin. Could

> it be this simple? We'll see.

[Guest guest]

My Dear ,

It occurred to me that since we've established the time that the

first symptoms showed up by the date of the email saying that on Oct.

27th and 28th I had swollen lips when I woke up -- and we've

eliminated the other two suspects -- I should check the date on the

ibuprofen prescription bottle: October 25th! HaHa!! I probably

picked it up on the 26th and took it that night. For now, the

generic for Motrin is the chief suspect.

I've got the supplier and lot number from the pharmacist. Now the

real detective work begins.

=================

Removing my deerstalker cap for a moment, I must say that it is hard

to believe that anyone would be forced to buy bottled water because

the municipal water supply is being pumped full of ammonia!

Fercyringoutloud! Maybe a grass roots movement to protect the

environment is in order here (no pun intended, of course.) If you

can't trust your prescription drugs and you can't trust your water,

just what CAN you trust?

Red

> > > Well Red, you can probably put that Sherlock Holmes hat and

> > > magnifying glass away now. The bumble bee sting was more than

> > likely

> > > the culprit. Even bumble bees can cause bad reactions.

> > >

> > Oh, Granny, you came so close! You did a lot of work, too!

> > Fortunately, I wrote privately to Jeannette about awaking with

> > swollen lips two mornings in a row. The email was dated October

28

> > and I didn't get stung until NOv. 9th, so it would have had to

have

> > been an anticipatory reaction as well as a delayed one.

> >

> > Sorry, I've got to keep the deerstalker cap on. At least we

> > collectively eliminated one possibility. Now, we're down to

> > chocolate and ??? But, no! Had I been eating chocolate befoe

Oct.

> > 28? I think not. Good work, Sherlock.

> >

> > Now, I'll have to consider Simon's cheery suggestion about icky

> > things in well water. I'll bet all you city water folks have

even

> > worse stuff, but what the heck, it's easy to take a sample and

get

> it

> > tested.

> >

> > I see that there are at least two other threads on this list

having

> > to do with nutrition and supplements as possible therapy for what

> > ails us. This morning, I went to Walmart and bought a reasonably

> > priced bottle of amino acids to couple with my multivitamin.

Could

> > it be this simple? We'll see.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sherlock -

I can trust my kittie cats! Don't ever trust the city council

wherever you live..... LOL! I gag even when using the tap water here

to rinse my teeth after brushing. It's BAAAAAAD!

Yes, refrain from taking the ibuprofen until you get all this gum-

shoeing worked out. Maybe allergy to ibuprofen is a very RARE side

effect, but regardless, it sure scared the crap out of ME! We were

living 11 miles up into a Rocky Mtn canyon, above Boulder and Golden -

probably north of where Elaine is now. With totally iced-up roads,

there was no way I could get to a hospital. I had an old script of

Inderal laying around and took about 40 mg of that (wasn't on it full

time then). It calmed the heart down, which helped. But I was still

on the bathroom floor trying to figure out which end to stick in the

commode, then decided why bother. I had to ride it out for several

hours. I didn't even know about benadryl back then.

Let us know what you come up with. This saga is getting

interesting. Hope your hives are gone by now.

Chris

> > > > Well Red, you can probably put that Sherlock Holmes hat and

> > > > magnifying glass away now. The bumble bee sting was more

than

> > > likely

> > > > the culprit. Even bumble bees can cause bad reactions.

> > > >

> > > Oh, Granny, you came so close! You did a lot of work, too!

> > > Fortunately, I wrote privately to Jeannette about awaking with

> > > swollen lips two mornings in a row. The email was dated

October

> 28

> > > and I didn't get stung until NOv. 9th, so it would have had to

> have

> > > been an anticipatory reaction as well as a delayed one.

> > >

> > > Sorry, I've got to keep the deerstalker cap on. At least we

> > > collectively eliminated one possibility. Now, we're down to

> > > chocolate and ??? But, no! Had I been eating chocolate befoe

> Oct.

> > > 28? I think not. Good work, Sherlock.

> > >

> > > Now, I'll have to consider Simon's cheery suggestion about icky

> > > things in well water. I'll bet all you city water folks have

> even

> > > worse stuff, but what the heck, it's easy to take a sample and

> get

> > it

> > > tested.

> > >

> > > I see that there are at least two other threads on this list

> having

> > > to do with nutrition and supplements as possible therapy for

what

> > > ails us. This morning, I went to Walmart and bought a

reasonably

> > > priced bottle of amino acids to couple with my multivitamin.

> Could

> > > it be this simple? We'll see.