Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Well, I truly hope that the treatment your brother has chosen will work for him. Chemo and radiation are not a guarantee to a life free of cancer but sometimes it works and people do survive because of it. I'm sorry your brother didn't have a success with it, I know how you feel because my mom has stage IV rectal cancer and its horrible to watch someone you love go through that hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Well, I truly hope that the treatment your brother has chosen will work for him. Chemo and radiation are not a guarantee to a life free of cancer but sometimes it works and people do survive because of it. I'm sorry your brother didn't have a success with it, I know how you feel because my mom has stage IV rectal cancer and its horrible to watch someone you love go through that hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Irene, So sorry to know your brother is having to deal with this awful cancer. I do hope that he gets some relief with Gerson. I have added him to my prayers. Please post here more often and let us know hows he is doing. Ingrid > Hi all. > Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in > October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this > group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. > > A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 > with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right > for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as > long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm > concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, > Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which > has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all > this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer > hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or > radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next > day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been > recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and > if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe > that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give > you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't > know everything; I think they know very little. > > My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has > been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due > to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for > him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave > this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little > hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know > there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My > guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, > we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to > health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the > jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. > > Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt > obligated to say something. > > -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Irene, So sorry to know your brother is having to deal with this awful cancer. I do hope that he gets some relief with Gerson. I have added him to my prayers. Please post here more often and let us know hows he is doing. Ingrid > Hi all. > Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in > October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this > group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. > > A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 > with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right > for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as > long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm > concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, > Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which > has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all > this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer > hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or > radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next > day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been > recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and > if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe > that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give > you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't > know everything; I think they know very little. > > My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has > been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due > to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for > him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave > this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little > hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know > there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My > guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, > we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to > health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the > jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. > > Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt > obligated to say something. > > -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 , I too have wondered about diet and colon cancer. I too did not eat a lot of red meat. I ate a lot of chicken and fish since I favor them. Am thin and got plenty of excerise. And ended up with colon cancer. So do not know what to say. Other then we do not know that diet causes this terrible illiness. Just wish I would of gotten colonoscopy sooner. But again I was not old enough like it was recommended at 50. So perhaps they need to research more. Ingrid > Hi Irene: > I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have > surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? > > As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other > than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional > medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained > any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), > organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. > (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, > alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and > supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children > started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon > (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) > dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat > or nitrate-ladden foods. > > What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with > mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to > prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still > filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this > horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat > organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them > to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. > > This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. > You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears > to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those > that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), > and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific > cancer). > > Best wishes, > > > > > Hi all. > Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in > October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this > group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. > > A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 > with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right > for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as > long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm > concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, > Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which > has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all > this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer > hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or > radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next > day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been > recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and > if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe > that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give > you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't > know everything; I think they know very little. > > My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has > been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due > to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for > him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave > this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little > hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know > there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My > guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, > we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to > health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the > jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. > > Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt > obligated to say something. > > -Irene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 , I too have wondered about diet and colon cancer. I too did not eat a lot of red meat. I ate a lot of chicken and fish since I favor them. Am thin and got plenty of excerise. And ended up with colon cancer. So do not know what to say. Other then we do not know that diet causes this terrible illiness. Just wish I would of gotten colonoscopy sooner. But again I was not old enough like it was recommended at 50. So perhaps they need to research more. Ingrid > Hi Irene: > I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have > surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? > > As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other > than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional > medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained > any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), > organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. > (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, > alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and > supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children > started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon > (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) > dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat > or nitrate-ladden foods. > > What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with > mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to > prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still > filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this > horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat > organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them > to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. > > This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. > You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears > to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those > that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), > and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific > cancer). > > Best wishes, > > > > > Hi all. > Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in > October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this > group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. > > A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 > with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right > for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as > long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm > concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, > Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which > has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all > this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer > hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or > radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next > day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been > recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and > if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe > that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give > you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't > know everything; I think they know very little. > > My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has > been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due > to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for > him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave > this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little > hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know > there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My > guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, > we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to > health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the > jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. > > Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt > obligated to say something. > > -Irene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Donna, Why is you doc against soy? I take products called Reliv and they are soy based. Thanks, Karima Re: Keep an open mind , I noticed you mentioned Quillan. Did you try his nutrition program or his Immunopower products? I have used the immunopower but have not done the nutrition. My kinesiologist says to eat a fistful of protein at each meal, plenty of bright colored vegies and dense fruits plus berries! He also said no soy. He of course was against the chemo but said if you are going to do it, you need to eat right. You must be familar with all of this if your parents were chiro's. Funny, someone today just asked me what causes this, and was it diet....so much for the diet based on your experience. Thanks for sharing. brencolinmom@... wrote: Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Donna, Why is you doc against soy? I take products called Reliv and they are soy based. Thanks, Karima Re: Keep an open mind , I noticed you mentioned Quillan. Did you try his nutrition program or his Immunopower products? I have used the immunopower but have not done the nutrition. My kinesiologist says to eat a fistful of protein at each meal, plenty of bright colored vegies and dense fruits plus berries! He also said no soy. He of course was against the chemo but said if you are going to do it, you need to eat right. You must be familar with all of this if your parents were chiro's. Funny, someone today just asked me what causes this, and was it diet....so much for the diet based on your experience. Thanks for sharing. brencolinmom@... wrote: Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 , I noticed you mentioned Quillan. Did you try his nutrition program or his Immunopower products? I have used the immunopower but have not done the nutrition. My kinesiologist says to eat a fistful of protein at each meal, plenty of bright colored vegies and dense fruits plus berries! He also said no soy. He of course was against the chemo but said if you are going to do it, you need to eat right. You must be familar with all of this if your parents were chiro's. Funny, someone today just asked me what causes this, and was it diet....so much for the diet based on your experience. Thanks for sharing. brencolinmom@... wrote: Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 he just told me this past wednesday that they are discovering aluminum in soy products now. He said to stay away from it, if I wanted milk to use raw goat milk or almond milk. He let me taste some goat milk and it was fine. I am not a milk drinker to begin with but also thought the soy was good for me. I didn't ask too many questions because I think I have read somewhere that we shouldn't be taking soy but am not sure. I will see him again after round 4 on 8/3 so I will get us more info then. Barbara Gari karima1@...> wrote: Donna, Why is you doc against soy? I take products called Reliv and they are soy based. Thanks, Karima Re: Keep an open mind , I noticed you mentioned Quillan. Did you try his nutrition program or his Immunopower products? I have used the immunopower but have not done the nutrition. My kinesiologist says to eat a fistful of protein at each meal, plenty of bright colored vegies and dense fruits plus berries! He also said no soy. He of course was against the chemo but said if you are going to do it, you need to eat right. You must be familar with all of this if your parents were chiro's. Funny, someone today just asked me what causes this, and was it diet....so much for the diet based on your experience. Thanks for sharing. brencolinmom@... wrote: Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Well I just wrote to my upline and asked her to check with management. This is not the first time I have heard this. Thanks Karima Re: Keep an open mind , I noticed you mentioned Quillan. Did you try his nutrition program or his Immunopower products? I have used the immunopower but have not done the nutrition. My kinesiologist says to eat a fistful of protein at each meal, plenty of bright colored vegies and dense fruits plus berries! He also said no soy. He of course was against the chemo but said if you are going to do it, you need to eat right. You must be familar with all of this if your parents were chiro's. Funny, someone today just asked me what causes this, and was it diet....so much for the diet based on your experience. Thanks for sharing. brencolinmom@... wrote: Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 great, if we both keep checking maybe, just maybe, we will get a straight answer. I trust this kinesiologist. He has saved me bookoodles of money telling me not to buy various supplements that I had read would " save " me. Glad you are feeling better from the posts I read tonight. Happy you made it through rehearsal! Hang in there dear. You guys keep me positive. I follow Jay because his treatment is close to mine so I watch what he is going through. I just finished round 3 on Wed and want to quit already. This was the first round that I have really felt like hell until today, Saturday. Still tired but not feeling sick. Guess I should shut up and not complain. The tingling is worse now, usually it is gone by now but can feel it in hands, feet and on lips. I feel so lucky to have all of you out there because you have taught me and warned me about what to expect. I spoke to a vendor on Friday who asked about my surgery so I explained what had happened. She said her aunt was just dx with what sounds like stage iv but is so distraught that she will not see or speak to anyone other than her husband and daughter. I gave her as much info as I could but suggested she get her cousin or aunt on this group. You guys are the best. Barbara Gari karima1@...> wrote: Well I just wrote to my upline and asked her to check with management. This is not the first time I have heard this. Thanks Karima Re: Keep an open mind , I noticed you mentioned Quillan. Did you try his nutrition program or his Immunopower products? I have used the immunopower but have not done the nutrition. My kinesiologist says to eat a fistful of protein at each meal, plenty of bright colored vegies and dense fruits plus berries! He also said no soy. He of course was against the chemo but said if you are going to do it, you need to eat right. You must be familar with all of this if your parents were chiro's. Funny, someone today just asked me what causes this, and was it diet....so much for the diet based on your experience. Thanks for sharing. brencolinmom@... wrote: Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 great, if we both keep checking maybe, just maybe, we will get a straight answer. I trust this kinesiologist. He has saved me bookoodles of money telling me not to buy various supplements that I had read would " save " me. Glad you are feeling better from the posts I read tonight. Happy you made it through rehearsal! Hang in there dear. You guys keep me positive. I follow Jay because his treatment is close to mine so I watch what he is going through. I just finished round 3 on Wed and want to quit already. This was the first round that I have really felt like hell until today, Saturday. Still tired but not feeling sick. Guess I should shut up and not complain. The tingling is worse now, usually it is gone by now but can feel it in hands, feet and on lips. I feel so lucky to have all of you out there because you have taught me and warned me about what to expect. I spoke to a vendor on Friday who asked about my surgery so I explained what had happened. She said her aunt was just dx with what sounds like stage iv but is so distraught that she will not see or speak to anyone other than her husband and daughter. I gave her as much info as I could but suggested she get her cousin or aunt on this group. You guys are the best. Barbara Gari karima1@...> wrote: Well I just wrote to my upline and asked her to check with management. This is not the first time I have heard this. Thanks Karima Re: Keep an open mind , I noticed you mentioned Quillan. Did you try his nutrition program or his Immunopower products? I have used the immunopower but have not done the nutrition. My kinesiologist says to eat a fistful of protein at each meal, plenty of bright colored vegies and dense fruits plus berries! He also said no soy. He of course was against the chemo but said if you are going to do it, you need to eat right. You must be familar with all of this if your parents were chiro's. Funny, someone today just asked me what causes this, and was it diet....so much for the diet based on your experience. Thanks for sharing. brencolinmom@... wrote: Hi Irene: I am happy to hear your brother is doing well. How old is he? Did he have surgery to remove the tumors? How many tumors are in the liver? As for the Gerson diet, I am aware of it and have no criticism of it other than to say I would not rely on this to the exclusion of conventional medicine. I say this because I am a former vegan (i.e., I ate nothing that contained any animal products.) I lived on freshly squeezed juices (all organic), organically grown fruits and vegies, soy, etc. I grew up with vitamins, etc. (my parents were chiropractors) and was taking omega 3, flax seed and oil, alpha lipoic acid, and all the allegedly cancer preventing vitamins, minerals and supplements for my entire life. I loved the vegan diet until my children started to eat other foods when with their friends. I then added wild salmon (not farmed) to their diets and allowed them to eat organic (no hormones,etc.) dairy products, and organic chicken in moderation. Never ate any red meat or nitrate-ladden foods. What did I get for all these years of scrupulous eating? Colon cancer with mets to the liver! Who knows. All I know is that my diet did nothing to prevent my early colon cancer (my sons are only 10 and 11). My fridge is still filled with flax oil, etc but I am taking nothing now as I heal from this horrible surgery and get ready to begin chemo. Do I intend to continue to eat organic, healthy foods, etc? Of course, I do. But I would never rely on them to control my stage 4 colon cancer to the exclusion of conventional medicine. This isn't meant to discourage you or others from making your own choices. You need to do that for yourself. I just thought I would share what appears to be my unique circumstances. I think that my diet was better than those that are proposed by Gerson, Quillin (Beating Cancer With Nutrition), and Kim Dalzell (Challeng Cancer and Win: Nutrition plans for your specific cancer). Best wishes, Hi all. Some of you might remember me. I was posting sometime in October/November, but stopped so that my brother, could join this group with some breathing room, if you know what I mean. A little background: My brother was diagnosed in late september '04 with stage IV. Plenty of mets in the liver. Nothing has gone right for him from the beginning. Many doctors have written him off, but as long as he's breathing, he's still worth the effort as far as I'm concerned. At this point, he's gone thru folfox4, avastin, Irinotecan, and is currently on Xeloda, his last chance drug, which has less than 20% chance of working on him. Why am I telling you all this? well, because I've seen chemo does to a young body. If cancer hits our family again, I know I would not do to any chemo or radiation, and only surgery if the tumor will end my life in the next day. I am writing to all of you, but mostly to those who have been recently diagnosed. I know you're going through a horrific time, and if you're anything like my brother, you want desparately to believe that the doctors will make you all better. The best advice I can give you is to keep an open mind; explore all options. The doctors don't know everything; I think they know very little. My brother is still alive, and he's looking better everyday. He has been at death's door so many times, yet I wonder if he was there due to the treatments/chemo/surgery. I don't know what lies ahead for him, but at least I haven't given up on him and if he should leave this world, I know I did all I could for him. For those with little hope left, I also urge you to look around for other options. I know there is a lot of quackery out there, and you have to be careful. My guideline was that it had to make 'sense'. In case you're wondering, we're trying the Gerson Therapy on my brother. (Eating your way to health, what a concept!) Although we just started it (partially) the jaundice in his eyes has faded to an extremely light yellow. Sorry if I'm rambling, but as I read the subjects on this list, I felt obligated to say something. -Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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