Re: few questions on DMSA/DPMS and ALA and general timing

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation topbrokersf wrote:

question 1

It looks like all of the post removal substances can be ordered on line

(ie we do not need dopey dr's prescription for any of these). I checked

out the files/links section for the sources. Is that correct

----------DMSA and ALA can be ordered on line and don't need a doctor. DMPS

is by prescription only, so does require a doctor.----------Jackie

question 2

I believe my mercury has already been mobilized with bad protocol I was

on for most of the last year (UP until I recived the Cutler book 2.50

months ago). I know the book says to wait a few months before taking ala

BUT given that i think my mercury has been activated should I try it

with the dmsa sooner rather than later

-----------You should definitely only start one chelator at a time, so you

know how you react to each one. I think it would be best to start with DMSA

alone, to see how you handle it and to lower your body burden. There is no cut

and dry answer as to when it is best to start ALA. First find out how you do on

DMSA only.--------Jackie

question 3

I see that most people seem to be starting out using DMSA and then ALA.

I do not see a lot of mentions on DPMS. Is there a time and a place for

the DPMS

-----------As I mentioned above, DMPS requires a prescription, so harder to

get, and not many doctors are familiar with it and will prescribe it. That is

one reason why some of us travel to see someone like , who works

with Andy, follows his protocol, and will prescribe DMPS. So, many people end

up using DMSA because they can't get a doctor to prescribe DMPS.----------Jackie

Thanks

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> question 1

> It looks like all of the post removal substances can be ordered on line

> (ie we do not need dopey dr's prescription for any of these). I checked

> out the files/links section for the sources. Is that correct

Not sure if you are talking about chelators - if so, yes, you can

find sources in files/links. Some people take activated charcoal

pre and post removal - that's OTC.

> question 2

> I believe my mercury has already been mobilized with bad protocol I was

> on for most of the last year (UP until I recived the Cutler book 2.50

> months ago). I know the book says to wait a few months before taking ala

> BUT given that i think my mercury has been activated should I try it

> with the dmsa sooner rather than later

No. Use DMSA (or DMPS) for at least 3 months before adding ALA.

It is important to reduce your extracellular body burden before

adding the ALA to assure net movement of mercury out of the brain

instead of into the brain.

> question 3

> I see that most people seem to be starting out using DMSA and then ALA.

> I do not see a lot of mentions on DPMS. Is there a time and a place for

> the DPMS

Just a matter of choice and availability.

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> Thanks

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> question 1

> It looks like all of the post removal substances can be ordered on line

> (ie we do not need dopey dr's prescription for any of these). I checked

> out the files/links section for the sources. Is that correct

Not sure if you are talking about chelators - if so, yes, you can

find sources in files/links. Some people take activated charcoal

pre and post removal - that's OTC.

> question 2

> I believe my mercury has already been mobilized with bad protocol I was

> on for most of the last year (UP until I recived the Cutler book 2.50

> months ago). I know the book says to wait a few months before taking ala

> BUT given that i think my mercury has been activated should I try it

> with the dmsa sooner rather than later

No. Use DMSA (or DMPS) for at least 3 months before adding ALA.

It is important to reduce your extracellular body burden before

adding the ALA to assure net movement of mercury out of the brain

instead of into the brain.

> question 3

> I see that most people seem to be starting out using DMSA and then ALA.

> I do not see a lot of mentions on DPMS. Is there a time and a place for

> the DPMS

Just a matter of choice and availability.

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> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Not sure if you are talking about chelators - if so, yes, you can

> find sources in files/links. Some people take activated charcoal

> pre and post removal - that's OTC.

Activated charcoal works as a Mercury chelator?

[Guest guest]

question one: Correct, unless a dopey doc will prescribe the dmsa

and then you can dose it on Andy's schedule. This is probably not

going to happen. And most have found the copay for dmsa more

expensive than just ordering it.

question2:

You can try the ala whenever you want. If you react badly, then stop

it and use dmsa only for a while. If your blood levels of Hg are

high, you will want to go with dmsa only to lower it before you use

ala. With a year on a bad protocol, I would clean up the house a bit

with dmsa only rounds, maybe at least 5 rounds, then try the ala.

question3: there is no time for dmps. You don't have to use it. And

if you plan to do ala you don't need to use it. You have to have a

prescription to get it. So most here don't use it. Also, dmsa and

ala are safe, cheap and easy to get. A few people have used dmps,

but oral protocol only. Some could not tolerate dmsa but this is

rare.

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> question 1

> It looks like all of the post removal substances can be ordered on

line

> Is that correct

>

> question 2

> I believe my mercury has already been mobilized with bad protocol

I was

> on for most of the last year (UP until I recived the Cutler book

2.50

> months ago). I know the book says to wait a few months before

taking ala

> BUT given that i think my mercury has been activated should I try

it

> with the dmsa sooner rather than later

>

> question 3

> I see that most people seem to be starting out using DMSA and then

ALA.

> I do not see a lot of mentions on DPMS. Is there a time and a

place for

> the DPMS

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

No it's not a chelator but it absorbs Hg in the gut that you swallow

during removal.

> > Not sure if you are talking about chelators - if so, yes, you can

> > find sources in files/links. Some people take activated charcoal

> > pre and post removal - that's OTC.

>

> Activated charcoal works as a Mercury chelator?

>

[Guest guest]

In that case wouldn't it help remove mercury from the gut after eating

food/chewing? Or after a night of grinding teeth?

Dentist says that I grind or once ground my teeth, I'm guessing at

night as I don't notice it during the day.

The one thing that I do notice during the day is that I chew the inside

of my mouth/cheek. It's very difficult to stop doing this. I was able

to stop at one point by chewing gum for a while, but now I'm back to

doing it. I know that chewing gum can release mercury. I wonder if my

chewing the inside of my cheek has somthing to do with mercury.

Thanks,

Mike

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> No it's not a chelator but it absorbs Hg in the gut that you swallow

> during removal.

[Guest guest]

> > Not sure if you are talking about chelators - if so, yes, you can

> > find sources in files/links. Some people take activated charcoal

> > pre and post removal - that's OTC.

>

> Activated charcoal works as a Mercury chelator?

>

No. Activated charcoal is not a chelator.

Sorry I confused matters by mentioning it. I wasn't sure what

meant by post-removal things and I know a lot of people do

take charcoal with the belief that it cleans up the gut.

If you swallow any chips of amalgam during removal they will go right

through. Not very absorbable.

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[Guest guest]

> > Not sure if you are talking about chelators - if so, yes, you can

> > find sources in files/links. Some people take activated charcoal

> > pre and post removal - that's OTC.

>

> Activated charcoal works as a Mercury chelator?

>

No. Activated charcoal is not a chelator.

Sorry I confused matters by mentioning it. I wasn't sure what

meant by post-removal things and I know a lot of people do

take charcoal with the belief that it cleans up the gut.

If you swallow any chips of amalgam during removal they will go right

through. Not very absorbable.

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[Guest guest]

Assuming you have amalgams still, it wouldn't hurt. I found that the

mercury was the reason I ground my teeth, and chewed on pens and

everything else.

I used to grind my teeth horribly in fact. But after amalgam removal

it stopped. Two plausible reasons I found for this are:

mercury vapors from the amalgams cause muscle spasms and tightness

in the face. Two: Metal fillings are electrically charged and this

causes the face muscles to spasm and clench the teeth. Either way, I

noticed immediate relief that first night after removal.

Just don't take charcoal all the time, especially not with

supplments or it absorbs them and whatever you ate with it.

It is useful for yeast die off, eating something that didn't agree

with you also.

I would suggest you take zinc everyday. It will reduce the chewing.

I used to chew pens, gum..anything. So did my kid, until we began

daily zinc.

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> > No it's not a chelator but it absorbs Hg in the gut that you

swallow

> > during removal.

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