Re: APOE and Mercury accumulation? Andy?

[Guest guest]

>

> I was wondering if Andy mentioned anything about APOE and mercury

> accumulation?

I haven't noticed any posts from Andy on the topic.

Apparently carbon-based does testing -

http://www.carbonbased.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84

Notice from the above link that the best case scenario is a protein

with 4 cysteines (sulfur containing amino acid) and the worst case is

when all of those cysteines are replaced by arginine (does not contain

sulfur). Basically, my understanding is that this is a 'brain

cleaning' type protein. When it has 4 cysteines it can clean mercury

out of the brain to some extent. As the cysteines are replaced by

arginines the ability to clean mercury out of the brain declines to

eventually nothing in the worst case scenario.

This would be one genetic factor that leaves people predisposed to

mercury. There would be many other factors.

Boyd Haley did some work with Apo E. Use his name when searching

google for more information.

I started getting some family history of disease and

> started wondering about Alzhemers (sp), my great grandmother had

> this, and there have been quite a few with cancer and heart issues.

> Well, in this research I came across a link between Alzhemers and

> Heart disease, related to APO-E specifically 3 and 4 version of this

> gene. According to one article I read they mentioned that mercury

> and other heavy metal accumulation was related to this gene. Ok,

> that's all fine and dandy, but then I looked more and I see it linked

> to hyperlipidemia, not something that I have had problems with (that

> I know of) but I did develop a xanthoma on my eyelid that can be

> associated with hyperlipidemia. I had wondered why I developed this

> xanthoma, as it is rare and is normally associated with very high

> lipid levels (though it is also liked to a messed up lipid

> metabolism). I wonder if perhaps I might have this gene, so I

> wondered if Andy or someone else has looked at this? I did a search

> and only found 1 person mentioning this gene, way back a few years

> ago, but nothing else was talked about with regards to this.

>

> So to make a long message short, has Andy mentioned anything about

> this?

Not that I am aware of.

> I wonder if perhaps I should get this gene tested for.

You could. If you already know that you have a mercury problem and

plan to chelate the test won't help you to make any treatment decisions.

I had the test done, found out that I am Apo E3, and have not found a

way that information helps me so far.

If you were trying to convince someone who has Alzheimer's in their

family to consider mercury, I can see how testing for Apo E might help

to convince them.

Not

> that I can do anything about it besides stearing clear of heavy metal

> accumulation as much as I can.

>

> Another related question, is this group ok to ask research type

> questions on

In the frequent-dose-chelation group we are asked to keep on topic,

which is that we are all here to provide support for one another with

chelating with Andy's protocol. Any topic related to that type of

support is fair to include.

I have been letting dental topics through because people do have to

remove amalgams before chelation, some find amalgam after they start

chelation, and there is a large group of people with expertise here in

this group.

In general, any topics that have to do with toxicity but don't have to

do with Andy's protocol should not be posted here but could be posted

in adult-metal or autism mercury or some other group.

You will often find the answers to research type questions by

searching the archives here or in the other 2 groups.

>>or should I just email Andy or someone else directly?

In the past I can remember when Andy asked people to post the message

in the group and send him the post number in private email. That

doesn't guarantee that he will answer. He has been extremely generous

to us with his time. He is often too busy to answer.

If every toxic person emails him direct with every question he will be

bombarded by mail and will never get his books written. His next book

is needed desperately by parents who are trying to chelate children.

If you want to engage Andy in discussions the route to take is to ask

him for a consulting package, ask your doctor to sign the consulting

agreement, and then approach him through your doctor.

> Seems a few questions like this that I've had have either been

> ignored or thought negatively of.

Many are considered off topic. If they are off topic, post to other

groups. If questions are ignored either no one has time to answer or

no one (reading) knows the answer. I'm sure that Andy doesn't read

every post. He has no obligation to answer any post - he only answers

because of his kind heart.

Each person needs to take some responsibility to research on their

own. There are many questions that are answered in a couple of

seconds by a google search or a search of autism mercury using onibasu.com

J

I'm an engineer type person and

> like to take things apart and explore all things regarding it, but I

> don't want to break too much apart from the protocol that Andy has

> put forth for us. (Or question the mechanisms behind it.) I put

> Andy in the highest regard and only ask questions to learn more for

> myself, I love learning more about how the body works, probably a bit

> too much at times.

>

> Thanks,

> Mike

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , see comments below.

> I haven't noticed any posts from Andy on the topic.

>

> Apparently carbon-based does testing -

>

> http://www.carbonbased.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=84

>

> Notice from the above link that the best case scenario is a protein

> with 4 cysteines (sulfur containing amino acid) and the worst case

is

> when all of those cysteines are replaced by arginine (does not

contain

> sulfur). Basically, my understanding is that this is a 'brain

> cleaning' type protein. When it has 4 cysteines it can clean

mercury

> out of the brain to some extent. As the cysteines are replaced by

> arginines the ability to clean mercury out of the brain declines to

> eventually nothing in the worst case scenario.

>

> This would be one genetic factor that leaves people predisposed to

> mercury. There would be many other factors.

>

> Boyd Haley did some work with Apo E. Use his name when searching

> google for more information.

Thanks for the info, I'll look a bit more into this area from the

info you sent. Greatly appreciated.

> You could. If you already know that you have a mercury problem and

> plan to chelate the test won't help you to make any treatment

decisions.

>

> I had the test done, found out that I am Apo E3, and have not found

a

> way that information helps me so far.

>

> If you were trying to convince someone who has Alzheimer's in their

> family to consider mercury, I can see how testing for Apo E might

help

> to convince them.

I was thinking this might be important to know for the purposes of

making sure to avoid even more the things that might accumulate. And

something to keep an eye on for my daughter. Might also help explain

they whys of things that have happened to me that perplex me as to

why they occured.

> In the frequent-dose-chelation group we are asked to keep on topic,

> which is that we are all here to provide support for one another

with

> chelating with Andy's protocol. Any topic related to that type of

> support is fair to include.

>

> I have been letting dental topics through because people do have to

> remove amalgams before chelation, some find amalgam after they start

> chelation, and there is a large group of people with expertise here

in

> this group.

>

> In general, any topics that have to do with toxicity but don't have

to

> do with Andy's protocol should not be posted here but could be

posted

> in adult-metal or autism mercury or some other group.

>

> You will often find the answers to research type questions by

> searching the archives here or in the other 2 groups.

>

> In the past I can remember when Andy asked people to post the

message

> in the group and send him the post number in private email. That

> doesn't guarantee that he will answer. He has been extremely

generous

> to us with his time. He is often too busy to answer.

>

> If every toxic person emails him direct with every question he will

be

> bombarded by mail and will never get his books written. His next

book

> is needed desperately by parents who are trying to chelate children.

>

> If you want to engage Andy in discussions the route to take is to

ask

> him for a consulting package, ask your doctor to sign the consulting

> agreement, and then approach him through your doctor.

>

>

> Many are considered off topic. If they are off topic, post to other

> groups. If questions are ignored either no one has time to answer

or

> no one (reading) knows the answer. I'm sure that Andy doesn't read

> every post. He has no obligation to answer any post - he only

answers

> because of his kind heart.

>

>

> Each person needs to take some responsibility to research on their

> own. There are many questions that are answered in a couple of

> seconds by a google search or a search of autism mercury using

onibasu.com

>

> J

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that Andy or anyone must answer my

questions. I just didn't want to ask questions here, to fulfill my

curiosity about mercury illness and related issues, that might

confuse the topic of this group. And I certainly don't want to take

up a lot more time from Andy, he has more important things on his

hands for sure than just my curiosity. You pointed me in the

right direction, I think, with the Adult Metal Chelation group here

at yahoo. At least I think that this is the group you were refering

to earlier.

Thanks again,

Mike