Re: More dental office vapor

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In frequent-dose-chelation fats_malone2002 wrote:

Hi, I typed about this a while back when I had one side of my mouth

replaced with porcelain last year. I do not have amalgams, but my

composites were old and required replacing.

I felt, after the first visit last year, worse and pretty ill and was

reluctant to go again. To me it just felt like I had breathed a load

of mercury vapor into myself (yet I don't have amalgams).

The effects were pretty bad, but I felt I would be ok as time wore

on. So I went to the next appointment to finish the other side of

the mouth.

This was late December last year and since that time (two months), my

health has totally and utterly plummeted. I have stuck to an

excellent strict healthy diet during all this time to no avail. My

symptoms are the following:

I have pain and stiffness throughout my body. I have ongoing

abdominal cramps that don't let up and cannot stand or walk for long

(this is not abnormal, I have a problem there anyway, but it is now

worse).

I have a feeling of chest tightness/restriction and have been getting

wheezing in the lungs.

I am utterly exhausted/drugged. My depression has gotten so much

worse I can hardly cope. I have lost all interest and motivation and

I am all but bedridden. I just barely function and find myself

sitting or lying down. I cannot exercise, I break down in tears when

I try because there is absolutely zero energy or strength. I can

sense and taste metal and feel it sometimes trying to push out.

Now, I wasn't great to start with but this has devastated me. Last

visit was bad enough, this was obviously the clincher. I cannot make

headway and cannot afford chelation. I might be able to get ALA and

wondered if I'd get away with this?

I cannot stand much more of what I'm suffering and this is part of

the reason why I got cerec porcelain dental materials so I'd not have

to go back to a dentist again. THis is the story of my life. One

visit and I " m FINISHED. But this time I think has been the worst.

Everyday I wake up and hope I'll feel better and I don't. At times I

feel my body's attempt at excreting something, I can feel toxic

metal. I even taste it and sometimes cry a bit and my eyes can sting

with it.

It is not the porcelain in case anybody is wondering, similar happens

to me from just walking into a dental office, even for consultation.

------------I remember you reporting this before, so it makes me wonder if you

have an actual *allergy* to mercury, as reported in Melisa tests

www.melisa.org That would explain the severe reaction to just mercury vapor

from a dentist office.----Jackie

But I guess this time it was just double the burden and I'm down for

the count. I have even had to get tests for hormones to try and get

support for that.

-------------Many of us do need a variety of hormonal support, and do feel

better if we get this figured out. What kind of tests did you have done? Could

you post the results here?-----------Jackie

I'm on excellent supplements - A quality

vitamin/mineral base powder, vitamin E, vitamin C, magnesium, zinc,

fish oil (mercury free), milk thistle etc.

What the heck do I do? It's been two months and this has become

chronic. People are trying to help me making suggestions and I try,

but frankly nothing is really working so far.

I cannot go back into a dental office again, this is almost ruining

my life. I cannot even go in for a routine check up or clean. I've

proven that. Sorry to go on, I just feel desperate and angry and

regret going at all, yet at the sametime, my existing materials would

have required replacement at some point soon anyway.

----------Hopefully like you say, you have gotten all the dental work behind

you and won't have to go back, and can hopefully move forward now, once you get

past this current setback. I know how devastating they can be, been there

myself and so have others, but things do eventually get better So keep

plugging along being good to yourself with your supplements and diet and getting

plenty of rest, and try to work on other things like your hormones, and

chelation, and hopefully things will start to improve. Hang in there

---------Jackie

Again, it's been two months, am I a candidate for ALA? Please help.

-----------There has been some recent debate about that. I think in your

case, being that you have had your amalgams out for a long time and this was

just a dental office exposure, that a couple months is probably long enough to

use ALA. What do others think? If you could get some DMSA that would probably

be best. Also, have you used ALA in the past, and how well did you tolerate

it?--------Jackie

Thanks for listening to my rant.

[Guest guest]

My $0.02:

> I cannot go back into a dental office again, this is almost ruining

> my life. I cannot even go in for a routine check up or clean. I've

> proven that. Sorry to go on, I just feel desperate and angry and

> regret going at all, yet at the sametime, my existing materials would

> have required replacement at some point soon anyway.

There are 2 kinds of dentist: The serial killers ones, unenlightened

about mercury (even defending it's use), and the healers (called Biological

or Mercury Free Dentistry). The latter understands mercury toxicity and

its proper disposal. My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd dentist were the serial killer kinds,

one step in their office and I paid *DEARLY* for months to come. If you ever

have to use a dentist again, make sure they are mercury free and knowledgeable

about toxicity issues. They have special equipment and know how to help

you without killing you.

If you get that sick, like me, with minimal exposure, you are probably

genetically predisposed to be allergic to mercury. Something to keep

in mind.

There's something really important that you *NEED* to know:

*IF YOU HANG IN THERE AND DO THE RIGHT THINGS IT WILL GET BETTER*

I suffered the most heinous depression for almost 3 years, and I found

myself suicidal.

If you find yourself *DEPRESSED* and are *CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE*, please,

please, call the suicide hotline at: 1-. They saved my life

more than once. Remember: *IF YOU DIE, YOU WILL NEVER GET BETTER, AND

MISS OUT ON THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS IN LIFE*. Take it from somebody

who has been there.

> ----------Hopefully like you say, you have gotten all the dental work

> behind you and won't have to go back, and can hopefully move forward

> now, once you get past this current setback. I know how devastating

> they can be, been there myself and so have others, but things do

> eventually get better So keep plugging along being good to yourself

> with your supplements and diet and getting plenty of rest, and try to

> work on other things like your hormones, and chelation, and hopefully

> things will start to improve. Hang in there ---------Jackie

>

As always great advice worth pursuing, I would add the following:

1. Get the cheapest Juicer you can afford, and juice plenty of fruits

and vegetables.

2. If you can, try to get some sunlight and fresh air.

3. Try to surround yourself with positive, loving, and caring people.

4. Aside from your supplements, your diet is one of the most important

tools to manage your symptoms. Do the usual: Avoid processed foods,

eat as natural as possible, lots of veggies and fruits, and watch your

bad fats and sugars.

5. As previously mentioned by Jackie, *REST*, *REST*, and don't stress

your endocrine system. 8)

6. Your adrenal are *REALLY* important. Diagnosing and treating your

adrenal could save you from a lot of physical and emotional discomfort.

7. *READ*, *READ*, *READ*, everything and anything pertaining to

mercury toxicity and recovery: knowledge is power!

*WITH TIME THINGS WILL IMPROVE*

>

> Again, it's been two months, am I a candidate for ALA? Please help.

>

> -----------There has been some recent debate about that. I think

> in your case, being that you have had your amalgams out for a long

> time and this was just a dental office exposure, that a couple months

> is probably long enough to use ALA. What do others think? If you could

> get some DMSA that would probably be best. Also, have you used ALA in

> the past, and how well did you tolerate it?--------Jackie

>

My humble opinion: I would wait up to four months, this based on my

experience. If you are as allergic to mercury as I am, your body is

probably very thrashed, requiring more caution, and longer periods of

recuperation. Your supplements, diet, and prescribed medications are your

tools to repair your body and get it ready for the next assault (chelation).

*YOU* should listen to your body. It is you who is going to live with

the symptoms of mercury redistributing later on when you start and stop

chelation, choose wisely, be kind to yourself, when in doubt: go slow.

>

> Thanks for listening to my rant.

>

You are a beautiful child of creation please don't forget that.

Here you are surrounded by *VERY* knowledgeable and caring

people. If there is a place to be, is here!, and remember:

*IT WILL GET BETTER*

Cheers,

Vince.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jacky,

Thanks for your response.

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> ------------I remember you reporting this before, so it makes me

wonder if you have an actual *allergy* to mercury, as reported in

Melisa tests www.melisa.org That would explain the severe

reaction to just mercury vapor from a dentist office.----Jackie

I haven't had the Melisa test done, but I already know I have an

allergy to mercury and other metals due to my reactions throughout my

whole life. I can't wear metal. Plus I used to get severe rashes

when my body was eliminating mercury via my skin. So, for me I

wouldn't need to do a test to find that out. I think this is a big

part of the problem with mercury, allergy as well as the fact I don't

eliminate it properly. I retain it.

> -----------There has been some recent debate about that. I think

in your case, being that you have had your amalgams out for a long

time and this was just a dental office exposure, that a couple months

is probably long enough to use ALA. What do others think? If you

could get some DMSA that would probably be best. Also, have you used

ALA in the past, and how well did you tolerate it?--------Jackie

I haven't really used much ALA in the past. When I was poisoned with

mercury, I used DMSA Cutler style and got well (at least I thought I

had). So I never bothered with ALA. Unfortunately I got a severe

viral/bacterial infection and never recovered. This had more impact

on me than the mercury and did so much damage to me, that everything

else from there went down hill. I also believe I may have

cavitations, but this is something else I need to look at later on.

Im unable to get things done in that area as yet. I also find that

testing tends to be a bit contradictory as well and not overly clear

cut.

I used ALA once or twice and used it at the wrong time I believe. I

used it after a massive redistribution of mercury from a garlic

supplement, which was a bad move. The ALA then made matters worse.

But apart from that, I haven't really used it much at all. So I

can't say how helpful it could be.

Thanks for your post!

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jacky, I forgot to answer one of your questions below.

-------------Many of us do need a variety of hormonal support, and do

feel better if we get this figured out. What kind of tests did you

have done? Could you post the results here?-----------Jackie

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I haven't got a scanner up and running, so I would need to type them

all out. This test was done by taking iodine and collecting urine

over 24 hours.

Urine free cortisol:

Urinary free cortisol: 265 nmol/day (50 -250) H

volume of collection: 1130 mL

Creatinine Urine Timed: 10.4 mmol/24h (6.2 - 17.7)

UT Creatine:

Time of collection: 24 hours

Volume of Collection: 1130 mL

Creatine Urine " 9.2 mmol/L

Creatinine Urine Timed: 10.4 mmol/24h (6.2 - 17.7)

Insulin Growth F1: (growth hormone levels). I am 35 years of age,

my levels were apparently about as low as someone well into middle

age:

Insulin Growth F1: 148 (93.53-320.16).

Cortisol serum test:

Cortisol - 8.30 am: 501 nmol/L (250-700)

Thyroid antibodies:

Thyroid Microsom Abs: Negative

Antithyroglobulin Ab: Negative

(adrenal hormone)

Aldosterone (plasma) 309 (100-800)

Thyroid function

T3 (Free): 3.0 pmol/L (4-6.8) A

T4 (Free): 13.7 pmol/L (12.8-20.4)

T.S.H.: 1.00 mlU/L (0.4-3.8)

I hope this makes some sense, I am not familiar with testing like

this, so just typing some of it out for you to look at.

My doctor basically told me that I have low T3 (thyroid). That my

cortisol was at good decent levels. That my growth hormone was very

low for my age.

She has prescribed me natural thyroid from a pig (60 mg to start),

Lugols iodine (4 drops daily) and something for the adrenals, because

I'm complaining of constantly wanting to sit or lie down, I cannot

seem to get up. But she only wants me taking half a tab of it.