Re: Urine Mercury = Zero!!!!!????

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Patty

I am not sure about all your readings so i will not comment

but my feelings go out to you..hang in there

FOR YOU HEART

** I belive taurine and magnesium should help.

I take 1000 mgs of taurine 3 times a day with zinc (30mgs)

I have read zinc and taurine create a synergistic positive effect

in delaing with mercury toxicity

**magnesium citrate

I use a brand by Longevity Science. I belive you need a health care

practioner to order. Its a 16 oz size. I take probably 3 scoops

4 times a day. Magnesium as i understand it helps with your nerves

as well as your heart . I just started reading this book. The

Magnesium factor by Dr Mildred Seelig. The first few chapters talk

about how helpful mag is for the heart as well as helping balance out

insulin

FOR ADRENALS

are you taking Hydrocortisone (HC)? not sure if you are in the US or

not ...It seems like maybe you are in the UK. Hopefully you can get

some...I belive there is an OTC HC cream that seems to help some

I have to say i just started taking Siberian ginseng its trade name is

eleuthero. I take 500 mgs in the am and mid afternoon.

I also take 7 Keto Dhea and pregnenolone through the day. 50 mgs of

Dhea and 50 mgs of Pregnenolone 3 times a day

WHAT SUPPS ARE YOU TAKING??

MENTAL HEALTH

I have gone through those morning/evening crying sessions many times

over the last three years. I know it sucks...Is your sleep ok

I can only say what finally helped me get over the mental health

issues was the chelation

CHELATION

Can you try DMPS or have you. Two things on your chelation

A) if you are only used to doing say 6-8 mgs DMSA every 3 hours

I would think doing 100 mgs in 4 hours would cause many problems

I may be way off base and am not saying this to be a smart alec,

here but being at 6-8 mgs after a year seem lows and must indicate

that there are some other problems going on. I am not the person

who knows why this would be the case

Keep the faith

> Hello Everybody,

> I just got the results from a provoked Hg test. I took 10mg of DMSA

> every 45 minutes then 20mg for the last two doses. I took a total of

> 100mg over a four hour time span. I collected urine from 11:00am

> till 10:00pm. My usual dose is 6 - 8mg/3hr Cutler protocol. I

> continued the round at 10mg every 3 hours.

>

> The next day I had horrible physical and mental(panic attacks and

> crying most of the day) side affects.I was so sick I could barely

> fill out the paper work. My husband had to package the urine, check

> the paperwork and get it into the mail. I said to myself and my

> husband, I have no doubt that I have mercury poisoning! The

> reaction to the chelator was extreme to my body.

> One year ago, saliva testing showed low cortisol in the afternoon

> and evening. Saliva testing done one month ago showed ERRATIC

> elevation at noon, afternoon and evening.

>

> I just don't know what to think. I am still so sick, especially in

> the mornings. I hurt from head to toe, I feel so UNWELL, my heart

> beats hard, I sit in a daze for 2 hours waiting for the pain meds

> to kick in. I have no sense of well being. I cry every morning

> because I feel so awful. I begin to feel a little better in the

> afternoon and evening. I do notice that my heart starts to beat

> hard again between 8 and 9 oclock at night. I have a good diet

> (candida) and take gobs of supplements. I just want to be well! :-(

> Thanks, Patty

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>

>

> Hello Everybody,

>

> I just got the results from a provoked Hg test. I took 10mg of DMSA

> every 45 minutes then 20mg for the last two doses. I took a total of

> 100mg over a four hour time span. I collected urine from 11:00am till

> 10:00pm. My usual dose is 6 - 8mg/3hr Cutler protocol. I continued the

> round at 10mg every 3 hours.

>

> The next day I had horrible physical and mental(panic attacks and

> crying most of the day) side affects.I was so sick I could barely fill

> out the paper work. My husband had to package the urine, check the

> paperwork and get it into the mail. I said to myself and my husband, I

> have no doubt that I have mercury poisoning! The reaction to the

> chelator was extreme to my body.

Did you need to do this as evidence for insurance purposes? If you

need to do it again, you would be better off trying it on a regular

chelation round, on the third day. No guarantee it will give you the

results you need, but it will be less harmful to your body.

> Results of the test: Doctor's Data

>

> Metal result range

>

> Aluminum 32ug/g < 35 green zone

>

> Arsnic 13ug/g creatinine < 130 green zone

>

> Cadmium 0.3 < 2 green zone

>

> Lead 2.9 < 5 green zone

>

> MERCURY < dl (less than detection limit!!!! ZERO :-(

>

> Nickel 2.9 < 12 green zone

>

> Creatinine level 29 mg/dl Range 35 - 225 This result was to the

> left in the RED ZONE 2 SD LOW

> This seems to me to be a significant finding.

I had very low creatinine when I did a challenge test and I've

heard others report this, too. I don't know why it happens, but

the tests aren't that meaningful or interpretable anyway.

It is not that surprising to see no mercury coming out. I don't

think anyone knows how to " catch " the mercury. It comes out

unpredictably. You would need to know the right day, the right

hour, probably the right minute that you are going to excrete the

mercury. There is unfortunately no way to predict this.

> I am one year post Total Dental Revision. Under anesthesia 7 1/2

> hours, 10 amalgams with high negative readings, multiple crowns

> replaced (7), no root canals and 4 cavitations cleaned out. This was

> done by a Huggin's trained dentist.

>

> My Doctor's Data hair analysis at that time was 2.9 (almost to the red

> zone). A previous hair analysis done by the King Lab reported

> 2.8 which was way off the chart to the right. Another Doctor's Data

> test done last Novemer was 0.46 (in the green zone)

>

> One year ago, saliva testing showed low cortisol in the afternoon and

> evening. Saliva testing done one month ago showed ERRATIC elevation at

> noon, afternoon and evening.

>

> I just don't know what to think. I am still so sick, especially in the

> mornings. I hurt from head to toe, I feel so UNWELL, my heart beats

> hard, I sit in a daze for 2 hours waiting for the pain meds to kick

> in. I have no sense of well being. I cry every morning because I feel

> so awful. I begin to feel a little better in the afternoon and

> evening. I do notice that my heart starts to beat hard again between 8

> and 9 oclock at night. I have a good diet (candida) and take gobs of

> supplements. I just want to be well! :-(

>

> What do you think?

It sounds like you need to work on your supplement program to get

yourself feeling better so you can keep chelating and get your

dose up higher. At some point you need to add ALA to get mercury

out of your brain.

From what you describe, I think you should look at Andy's post on

depression in the files section (under " Andy index subject links " )

and see if you can find something that fits your symptoms.

I would not dismiss the need for adrenal support based on the

" erratic elevations " of cortisol on your saliva test. Andy says

in Amalgam Illness that " the dynamic range of cortisol levels are

so wide and people's individual needs for it vary so much. " (p. 118)

It would make sense to try some support, at least in the morning.

Your brain really needs and expects to see the highest level of

cortisol in the morning.

Have you checked your thyroid? Very good idea, even if you don't

think you have typical symptoms. Free T3, free T4, and TSH.

--

> I sure appreciate everyone's efforts to post their stories.

>

> Thanks, Patty

>

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>

>

> Hello Everybody,

>

> I just got the results from a provoked Hg test. I took 10mg of DMSA

> every 45 minutes then 20mg for the last two doses. I took a total of

> 100mg over a four hour time span. I collected urine from 11:00am till

> 10:00pm. My usual dose is 6 - 8mg/3hr Cutler protocol. I continued the

> round at 10mg every 3 hours.

>

> The next day I had horrible physical and mental(panic attacks and

> crying most of the day) side affects.I was so sick I could barely fill

> out the paper work. My husband had to package the urine, check the

> paperwork and get it into the mail. I said to myself and my husband, I

> have no doubt that I have mercury poisoning! The reaction to the

> chelator was extreme to my body.

Did you need to do this as evidence for insurance purposes? If you

need to do it again, you would be better off trying it on a regular

chelation round, on the third day. No guarantee it will give you the

results you need, but it will be less harmful to your body.

> Results of the test: Doctor's Data

>

> Metal result range

>

> Aluminum 32ug/g < 35 green zone

>

> Arsnic 13ug/g creatinine < 130 green zone

>

> Cadmium 0.3 < 2 green zone

>

> Lead 2.9 < 5 green zone

>

> MERCURY < dl (less than detection limit!!!! ZERO :-(

>

> Nickel 2.9 < 12 green zone

>

> Creatinine level 29 mg/dl Range 35 - 225 This result was to the

> left in the RED ZONE 2 SD LOW

> This seems to me to be a significant finding.

I had very low creatinine when I did a challenge test and I've

heard others report this, too. I don't know why it happens, but

the tests aren't that meaningful or interpretable anyway.

It is not that surprising to see no mercury coming out. I don't

think anyone knows how to " catch " the mercury. It comes out

unpredictably. You would need to know the right day, the right

hour, probably the right minute that you are going to excrete the

mercury. There is unfortunately no way to predict this.

> I am one year post Total Dental Revision. Under anesthesia 7 1/2

> hours, 10 amalgams with high negative readings, multiple crowns

> replaced (7), no root canals and 4 cavitations cleaned out. This was

> done by a Huggin's trained dentist.

>

> My Doctor's Data hair analysis at that time was 2.9 (almost to the red

> zone). A previous hair analysis done by the King Lab reported

> 2.8 which was way off the chart to the right. Another Doctor's Data

> test done last Novemer was 0.46 (in the green zone)

>

> One year ago, saliva testing showed low cortisol in the afternoon and

> evening. Saliva testing done one month ago showed ERRATIC elevation at

> noon, afternoon and evening.

>

> I just don't know what to think. I am still so sick, especially in the

> mornings. I hurt from head to toe, I feel so UNWELL, my heart beats

> hard, I sit in a daze for 2 hours waiting for the pain meds to kick

> in. I have no sense of well being. I cry every morning because I feel

> so awful. I begin to feel a little better in the afternoon and

> evening. I do notice that my heart starts to beat hard again between 8

> and 9 oclock at night. I have a good diet (candida) and take gobs of

> supplements. I just want to be well! :-(

>

> What do you think?

It sounds like you need to work on your supplement program to get

yourself feeling better so you can keep chelating and get your

dose up higher. At some point you need to add ALA to get mercury

out of your brain.

From what you describe, I think you should look at Andy's post on

depression in the files section (under " Andy index subject links " )

and see if you can find something that fits your symptoms.

I would not dismiss the need for adrenal support based on the

" erratic elevations " of cortisol on your saliva test. Andy says

in Amalgam Illness that " the dynamic range of cortisol levels are

so wide and people's individual needs for it vary so much. " (p. 118)

It would make sense to try some support, at least in the morning.

Your brain really needs and expects to see the highest level of

cortisol in the morning.

Have you checked your thyroid? Very good idea, even if you don't

think you have typical symptoms. Free T3, free T4, and TSH.

--

> I sure appreciate everyone's efforts to post their stories.

>

> Thanks, Patty

>