Re: Is the urine challenge test adviseable? Andy and the ARI seem to disagree??

[Guest guest]

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> Andy or anyone who knows...

> Can anyone please offer some input on whether or not the urine

> challenge is an accurate and adviseable way to determine heavy metal

The urine challenge is neither accurate nor advisable. Random amounts

of metals are pulled and some of this is excreted, while the rest is

redistributed in the body causing damage. The excreted metals are not

representative of body burden.

These tests are harmful and uninterpretable.

> toxicity? I am interested in chelating our son with ALA alone but want

> to do a DMSA urine challenge first to make sure other metals are not

> free floating to potentially cross the BBB while using ALA.

This is usually not a big concern with children because their

exposure is not so recent. If your child does have very recent

exposure (within 3 months), then start with DMSA alone and add

ALA within a few months.

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Thanks

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[Guest guest]

, after weeks of research I've decided to do the DDI hair elements

test on my son (8 yrs) because the challenge test is *not* accurate

(see other posts). I want to know exactly what the score is before we

start chelation - also, like you want to make sure the chelation won't

cause complications. More expensive, but don't want to miss something,

or chelate when symptoms are caused by something else. Joy

[Guest guest]

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> , after weeks of research I've decided to do the DDI hair

elements

> test on my son (8 yrs) because the challenge test is *not* accurate

> (see other posts). I want to know exactly what the score is before we

> start chelation - also, like you want to make sure the chelation

won't

> cause complications. More expensive, but don't want to miss

something,

> or chelate when symptoms are caused by something else. Joy

>

Joy,

Yes thanks. We are waiting the results of a hair elements test along

with a urine porphyrin from Paris which I found an interpretation

method to use it with. I am still in complete CONFUSION over the

difference in protocols between the ARI and Andy. The two major

conflicts seem to be frequency and amount. Their ideas of the half

life of DMSA are different and the amount is 20 times more with the

ARI - DAN protocol. It is very troubling for a skeptical parent.

[Guest guest]

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> , after weeks of research I've decided to do the DDI hair

elements

> test on my son (8 yrs) because the challenge test is *not* accurate

> (see other posts). I want to know exactly what the score is before we

> start chelation - also, like you want to make sure the chelation

won't

> cause complications. More expensive, but don't want to miss

something,

> or chelate when symptoms are caused by something else. Joy

>

Joy,

Yes thanks. We are waiting the results of a hair elements test along

with a urine porphyrin from Paris which I found an interpretation

method to use it with. I am still in complete CONFUSION over the

difference in protocols between the ARI and Andy. The two major

conflicts seem to be frequency and amount. Their ideas of the half

life of DMSA are different and the amount is 20 times more with the

ARI - DAN protocol. It is very troubling for a skeptical parent.

[Guest guest]

the major thing i am confused about is that why people say the urine

test is completely useless, becuase some of us have had this test

before we heard about andys work and the possible side effects etc.

But i would not have known about chelation at all had i not had a

urine test that showed up metals. and also these metals are inside us

so if a urine test finds them surely this is a good thing, so we can

get rid of them, thats why i dont understand why people say they are

completely uselss, also they surely offer some sort of diagnostic use

as the doctors that do them do them on many patients so just among the

patients they do it on they must be able to see that some people are

very toxic and others less so, by comparing them to each other.

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> > , after weeks of research I've decided to do the DDI hair

> elements

> > test on my son (8 yrs) because the challenge test is *not* accurate

> > (see other posts). I want to know exactly what the score is

before we

> > start chelation - also, like you want to make sure the chelation

> won't

> > cause complications. More expensive, but don't want to miss

> something,

> > or chelate when symptoms are caused by something else. Joy

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> Joy,

> Yes thanks. We are waiting the results of a hair elements test along

> with a urine porphyrin from Paris which I found an interpretation

> method to use it with. I am still in complete CONFUSION over the

> difference in protocols between the ARI and Andy. The two major

> conflicts seem to be frequency and amount. Their ideas of the half

> life of DMSA are different and the amount is 20 times more with the

> ARI - DAN protocol. It is very troubling for a skeptical parent.

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