Re: Bentonite clay?Poison Ivy

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

Thanks for the input. I will check previous posts. You asked how I

was doing otherwise. I had to stop chelating (Cutler style) in August

when I developed severe contact dermatitis, probably poison ivy. It

went systemic, had to triple HC dose, then became completely

intolerant to HC and had to stop the steroids cold turkey. It is a

lot more complicated than that, but that's the nutshell version. I've

been off line for months because just too ill and am now attempting

to find something to help absorb the toxins, as well as thallium, in

my gut. The " poison ivy " has thrown many of my body systems into

hyper mode and the most innocuous thing I can think of to get back on

track is an adsorbing agent which I am supposed to be taking anyway

because of the thallium. Then I will try some digestive enzymes, but

previous experience with these tells me I need something to absorb

the toxins released by the enzymes or I will just be more toxic. My

MCS is more severe now than it's been in a while. I am just trying to

get back on track, so that I can get back to chelation. Tried ALA at

6mg, but so toxic right now that it was a disaster.

Any other suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,

Gladioli

>

> I need some type of adsorbing or absorbing agent to use for my

current

> gut issues and do not tolerate activated charcoal. I tolerate

bentonite

> clay, but am wondering about it's aluminum content? It is my

> understanding the BC is not absorbed from the GI tract. Does

anyone

> know if this is correct?

>

> ------------I don't know if it contains aluminum and could

probably vary depending on the source, so you would have to check out

the brand you are considering using. I have never used it, so I

can't make any recommendations. My understanding also is that it

only absorbs things in the gut, so stays in the GI tract, and is not

considered a chelator at all. You can search past posts in this

group and Adult-Metal-Chelation and Autism-Mercury to learn more.-----

-----Jackie

>

> -----------How are you doing otherwise? Are you still chelating?-

----------Jackie

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation gladioli66 wrote:

Hi Jackie,

Thanks for the input. I will check previous posts.

---------Sorry I wasn't much help. Let me know if you're too ill to do this,

and I will try to do more research for you.----------Jackie

You asked how I

was doing otherwise. I had to stop chelating (Cutler style) in August

when I developed severe contact dermatitis, probably poison ivy. It

went systemic, had to triple HC dose, then became completely

intolerant to HC and had to stop the steroids cold turkey. It is a

lot more complicated than that, but that's the nutshell version.

-----------I'm sorry to hear about your troubles, if you ever want to chat

offline, just send me an email. I have had some bumps in the road

too!------Jackie

---------And I have wondered how you're doing, because if I remember right,

you met all 3 counting rules on your hair test, right? So I know you are very

toxic and probably sicker than most, and I pray that you will get better, and am

always interested in hearing how you're doing.----------Jackie

I've

been off line for months because just too ill

----------I have also gone through spells of not keeping up with the groups.

It can be too much at times.--------Jackie

and am now attempting

to find something to help absorb the toxins, as well as thallium, in

my gut. The " poison ivy " has thrown many of my body systems into

hyper mode and the most innocuous thing I can think of to get back on

track is an adsorbing agent which I am supposed to be taking anyway

because of the thallium. Then I will try some digestive enzymes, but

previous experience with these tells me I need something to absorb

the toxins released by the enzymes or I will just be more toxic. My

MCS is more severe now than it's been in a while. I am just trying to

get back on track, so that I can get back to chelation. Tried ALA at

6mg, but so toxic right now that it was a disaster.

----------I also tried 6mg of ALA a few months ago, and it wiped me out. So I

can't tolerate it yet either. But I have arsenic besides mercury, and had only

been using DMSA for a long time. I did switch to DMPS, but haven't been able to

chelate very often for different reasons also. So I'm also hoping to get back

on track with chelation this year (recovering from surgery

now).-----------Jackie

Any other suggestions are welcome.

-----------I don't know how different they are, but what about zeolite as an

absorbing agent? I believe I've read the same stuff about bentonite and

zeolite, that they stay in the gut, so are not true chelators, but that people

have had benefits from them and that Andy doesn't think they are harmful, just

that they won't chelate. I believe that's been the just of the discussions on

them. But like I said, no personal experience with them to report to you. Good

luck!-------Jackie

Thanks,

Gladioli

>

> I need some type of adsorbing or absorbing agent to use for my

current

> gut issues and do not tolerate activated charcoal. I tolerate

bentonite

> clay, but am wondering about it's aluminum content? It is my

> understanding the BC is not absorbed from the GI tract. Does

anyone

> know if this is correct?

>

> ------------I don't know if it contains aluminum and could

probably vary depending on the source, so you would have to check out

the brand you are considering using. I have never used it, so I

can't make any recommendations. My understanding also is that it

only absorbs things in the gut, so stays in the GI tract, and is not

considered a chelator at all. You can search past posts in this

group and Adult-Metal-Chelation and Autism-Mercury to learn more.-----

-----Jackie

>

> -----------How are you doing otherwise? Are you still chelating?-

----------Jackie

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation gladioli66 wrote:

Hi Jackie,

Thanks for the input. I will check previous posts.

---------Sorry I wasn't much help. Let me know if you're too ill to do this,

and I will try to do more research for you.----------Jackie

You asked how I

was doing otherwise. I had to stop chelating (Cutler style) in August

when I developed severe contact dermatitis, probably poison ivy. It

went systemic, had to triple HC dose, then became completely

intolerant to HC and had to stop the steroids cold turkey. It is a

lot more complicated than that, but that's the nutshell version.

-----------I'm sorry to hear about your troubles, if you ever want to chat

offline, just send me an email. I have had some bumps in the road

too!------Jackie

---------And I have wondered how you're doing, because if I remember right,

you met all 3 counting rules on your hair test, right? So I know you are very

toxic and probably sicker than most, and I pray that you will get better, and am

always interested in hearing how you're doing.----------Jackie

I've

been off line for months because just too ill

----------I have also gone through spells of not keeping up with the groups.

It can be too much at times.--------Jackie

and am now attempting

to find something to help absorb the toxins, as well as thallium, in

my gut. The " poison ivy " has thrown many of my body systems into

hyper mode and the most innocuous thing I can think of to get back on

track is an adsorbing agent which I am supposed to be taking anyway

because of the thallium. Then I will try some digestive enzymes, but

previous experience with these tells me I need something to absorb

the toxins released by the enzymes or I will just be more toxic. My

MCS is more severe now than it's been in a while. I am just trying to

get back on track, so that I can get back to chelation. Tried ALA at

6mg, but so toxic right now that it was a disaster.

----------I also tried 6mg of ALA a few months ago, and it wiped me out. So I

can't tolerate it yet either. But I have arsenic besides mercury, and had only

been using DMSA for a long time. I did switch to DMPS, but haven't been able to

chelate very often for different reasons also. So I'm also hoping to get back

on track with chelation this year (recovering from surgery

now).-----------Jackie

Any other suggestions are welcome.

-----------I don't know how different they are, but what about zeolite as an

absorbing agent? I believe I've read the same stuff about bentonite and

zeolite, that they stay in the gut, so are not true chelators, but that people

have had benefits from them and that Andy doesn't think they are harmful, just

that they won't chelate. I believe that's been the just of the discussions on

them. But like I said, no personal experience with them to report to you. Good

luck!-------Jackie

Thanks,

Gladioli

>

> I need some type of adsorbing or absorbing agent to use for my

current

> gut issues and do not tolerate activated charcoal. I tolerate

bentonite

> clay, but am wondering about it's aluminum content? It is my

> understanding the BC is not absorbed from the GI tract. Does

anyone

> know if this is correct?

>

> ------------I don't know if it contains aluminum and could

probably vary depending on the source, so you would have to check out

the brand you are considering using. I have never used it, so I

can't make any recommendations. My understanding also is that it

only absorbs things in the gut, so stays in the GI tract, and is not

considered a chelator at all. You can search past posts in this

group and Adult-Metal-Chelation and Autism-Mercury to learn more.-----

-----Jackie

>

> -----------How are you doing otherwise? Are you still chelating?-

----------Jackie