Re: CNS improvements with chelation?

[Guest guest]

Hi Nicola,

I have CNS symptoms with a leg and arm that goes numb frequently.

Since chelating (I have done 3 months, 1.5 months with ALA and DMSA

together) and I have notice a big drop in the numbness. I also have

adreanl issues and thyroid and am on support for adreanals. I don't

notice huge adreanal issues being resolved yet but I am not cold

everyday !!! Just once or twice a month.

My understanding is that DMSA will not chelate brain and CNS - you need

ALA for that. I could be wrong on this....

Colette

[Guest guest]

Hi Nicola,

I have CNS symptoms with a leg and arm that goes numb frequently.

Since chelating (I have done 3 months, 1.5 months with ALA and DMSA

together) and I have notice a big drop in the numbness. I also have

adreanl issues and thyroid and am on support for adreanals. I don't

notice huge adreanal issues being resolved yet but I am not cold

everyday !!! Just once or twice a month.

My understanding is that DMSA will not chelate brain and CNS - you need

ALA for that. I could be wrong on this....

Colette

[Guest guest]

Hi Nicola,

I have CNS symptoms with a leg and arm that goes numb frequently.

Since chelating (I have done 3 months, 1.5 months with ALA and DMSA

together) and I have notice a big drop in the numbness. I also have

adreanl issues and thyroid and am on support for adreanals. I don't

notice huge adreanal issues being resolved yet but I am not cold

everyday !!! Just once or twice a month.

My understanding is that DMSA will not chelate brain and CNS - you need

ALA for that. I could be wrong on this....

Colette

[Guest guest]

The belief here is that only ALA will chelate mercury out of the

CNS. And how long it takes varies by each person. One thing I would

suggest is to look into gluten sensitivity. Try going gluten free for

a couple of months and see if you notice any improvements. Also, you

may be low in b vitamins - b6 is huge for neuro stuff. Also, and this

is huge, candida/yeast overgrowth can cause joint nerve pain.

So, you have to attack this from multiple angles I've found.

Good luck,

Val

[Guest guest]

The belief here is that only ALA will chelate mercury out of the

CNS. And how long it takes varies by each person. One thing I would

suggest is to look into gluten sensitivity. Try going gluten free for

a couple of months and see if you notice any improvements. Also, you

may be low in b vitamins - b6 is huge for neuro stuff. Also, and this

is huge, candida/yeast overgrowth can cause joint nerve pain.

So, you have to attack this from multiple angles I've found.

Good luck,

Val

[Guest guest]

The belief here is that only ALA will chelate mercury out of the

CNS. And how long it takes varies by each person. One thing I would

suggest is to look into gluten sensitivity. Try going gluten free for

a couple of months and see if you notice any improvements. Also, you

may be low in b vitamins - b6 is huge for neuro stuff. Also, and this

is huge, candida/yeast overgrowth can cause joint nerve pain.

So, you have to attack this from multiple angles I've found.

Good luck,

Val

[Guest guest]

You still have very clear signs of adrenal fatigue. Not CNS signs.

Have you considered using hydrocortisone rather than prednisolone?

Many people report that HC works better, as it is more close to what

your adrenals actually make and does not give the side effects of

synthetic pred.

(www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for how to treat adrenals/thyroid.)

What are you on for thyroid? Synthetics also? Look at Armour.

Usually you gradually work up to 20mg of HC a day. Beginning in 5mg

doses, it will be dose 4 times a day..not once. Same with Armour,

starting at 1/4 grain and every few weeks adding a 1/4. See the site..

The CNS is controlled by the brain. Mercury disrupts every one of

these process, including pituitary function and endocrine function.

I would advise stabilizing your endocrine more before adding ala.

CNS symptoms would be more like neuropathy, numbness, tingling, motor

control problems...etc.

Adrenals are responsible for blood pressure, heart rate, pupil

dilation, etc, etc. This screams out adrenal.....

Wish it didn't, but it does. You must look into HC and Armour, the

synthetic is either not high enough or not working for you.

>

> My worst mercury problems seem to be CNS and adrenal / thyroid

> related. I cannot stand up without getting palpitations, despite being

> on full adrenal support (prednisolone and florinef) and thyroid meds.

> I cannot walk around for more than an hour, because my heart races so

> much. When I am very stressed my left pupil becomes dilated. My blood

> pressure drops on standing.

>

> I have chelated for 8 months with DMSA only, and am now contemplating

> ALA. Is there anyone whose CNS symptoms have improved with ALA? Is

> the CNS controlled by the pituitary or the brain? My understanding of

> the connection is very sketchy.

>

> Any input would be great.

>

> thanks

>

> Nicola

>

[Guest guest]

You still have very clear signs of adrenal fatigue. Not CNS signs.

Have you considered using hydrocortisone rather than prednisolone?

Many people report that HC works better, as it is more close to what

your adrenals actually make and does not give the side effects of

synthetic pred.

(www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for how to treat adrenals/thyroid.)

What are you on for thyroid? Synthetics also? Look at Armour.

Usually you gradually work up to 20mg of HC a day. Beginning in 5mg

doses, it will be dose 4 times a day..not once. Same with Armour,

starting at 1/4 grain and every few weeks adding a 1/4. See the site..

The CNS is controlled by the brain. Mercury disrupts every one of

these process, including pituitary function and endocrine function.

I would advise stabilizing your endocrine more before adding ala.

CNS symptoms would be more like neuropathy, numbness, tingling, motor

control problems...etc.

Adrenals are responsible for blood pressure, heart rate, pupil

dilation, etc, etc. This screams out adrenal.....

Wish it didn't, but it does. You must look into HC and Armour, the

synthetic is either not high enough or not working for you.

>

> My worst mercury problems seem to be CNS and adrenal / thyroid

> related. I cannot stand up without getting palpitations, despite being

> on full adrenal support (prednisolone and florinef) and thyroid meds.

> I cannot walk around for more than an hour, because my heart races so

> much. When I am very stressed my left pupil becomes dilated. My blood

> pressure drops on standing.

>

> I have chelated for 8 months with DMSA only, and am now contemplating

> ALA. Is there anyone whose CNS symptoms have improved with ALA? Is

> the CNS controlled by the pituitary or the brain? My understanding of

> the connection is very sketchy.

>

> Any input would be great.

>

> thanks

>

> Nicola

>

[Guest guest]

You still have very clear signs of adrenal fatigue. Not CNS signs.

Have you considered using hydrocortisone rather than prednisolone?

Many people report that HC works better, as it is more close to what

your adrenals actually make and does not give the side effects of

synthetic pred.

(www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for how to treat adrenals/thyroid.)

What are you on for thyroid? Synthetics also? Look at Armour.

Usually you gradually work up to 20mg of HC a day. Beginning in 5mg

doses, it will be dose 4 times a day..not once. Same with Armour,

starting at 1/4 grain and every few weeks adding a 1/4. See the site..

The CNS is controlled by the brain. Mercury disrupts every one of

these process, including pituitary function and endocrine function.

I would advise stabilizing your endocrine more before adding ala.

CNS symptoms would be more like neuropathy, numbness, tingling, motor

control problems...etc.

Adrenals are responsible for blood pressure, heart rate, pupil

dilation, etc, etc. This screams out adrenal.....

Wish it didn't, but it does. You must look into HC and Armour, the

synthetic is either not high enough or not working for you.

>

> My worst mercury problems seem to be CNS and adrenal / thyroid

> related. I cannot stand up without getting palpitations, despite being

> on full adrenal support (prednisolone and florinef) and thyroid meds.

> I cannot walk around for more than an hour, because my heart races so

> much. When I am very stressed my left pupil becomes dilated. My blood

> pressure drops on standing.

>

> I have chelated for 8 months with DMSA only, and am now contemplating

> ALA. Is there anyone whose CNS symptoms have improved with ALA? Is

> the CNS controlled by the pituitary or the brain? My understanding of

> the connection is very sketchy.

>

> Any input would be great.

>

> thanks

>

> Nicola

>

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Nicola

You're in the worst of it right now. For me, it was 12 months before

the grinding exhaustion left. I was still so tired I couldn't do much,

but I felt tired, rather than ground down into a sandy kind of grit - if

that makes any sense to you. Another 5 months before I started to get

some re-regulation of my hormones - testosterone started coming back.

Now, 2 1/2 years of chelation and I'm still adrenal fatigued, but I can

function, even if it's at a low level.

I did start with ALA though, so I'm not sure how the timing will be for you.

Dave.

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Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:37 am (PDT)

My worst mercury problems seem to be CNS and adrenal / thyroid

related. I cannot stand up without getting palpitations, despite being

on full adrenal support (prednisolone and florinef) and thyroid meds.

I cannot walk around for more than an hour, because my heart races so

much. When I am very stressed my left pupil becomes dilated. My blood

pressure drops on standing.

I have chelated for 8 months with DMSA only, and am now contemplating

ALA. Is there anyone whose CNS symptoms have improved with ALA? Is

the CNS controlled by the pituitary or the brain? My understanding of

the connection is very sketchy.

Any input would be great.

thanks

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Nicola. The pituitary and the brain are both part of the CNS.

With regard to your heart palpitations. I don't have any concrete

knowledge to base this following suggestion on, but I do know this:

(1) Andy has said that anyone with mercury problems will be " horribly

messed up " if they don't replace electrolytes.

(2) When I began replacing electrolytes, my heart irregularity resolved.

(3) Electrolytes are the minerals needed for the muscle to signal,

contraction or release.

So, on the basis of (1) I would say you need electrolytes. On the basis

of (2) and (3) I might hold out a certain hope there might be some

effect on your palpitations.

Use Onibasu to search for Andy's electrolyte mix suggestion. Search on

" total electrolyte replacement " .

Dave.

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Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:37 am (PDT)

My worst mercury problems seem to be CNS and adrenal / thyroid

related. I cannot stand up without getting palpitations, despite being

on full adrenal support (prednisolone and florinef) and thyroid meds.

I cannot walk around for more than an hour, because my heart races so

much. When I am very stressed my left pupil becomes dilated. My blood

pressure drops on standing.

I have chelated for 8 months with DMSA only, and am now contemplating

ALA. Is there anyone whose CNS symptoms have improved with ALA? Is

the CNS controlled by the pituitary or the brain? My understanding of

the connection is very sketchy.

Any input would be great.

thanks

Nicola

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-Nicola

I am not sure if the heart palpitations are similar to mine...I feel

sped up all the time. If you are having trouble with phase II of liver

you might also try a trial of grapefruit as well to see if phase I is

also being affected.

You might have already tried it.

Colette