Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Question 1: I am 120 pounds. If I begin DMSA on a three days on, 4 days off regimen at 12.5 mg per dose, what will my total mg be for a 24 hour period? And is the half life dependent upon the amount of mg per dose? In other words, if I took a 12.5 mg dose compared to a 25 mg dose, would their half life be the same? Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is absorbed from the intestinal tract. That would only be 2.50 mg per dose entering my blood stream. We know the possible downsides to taking too much DMSA, but what about too little? I have also read that of the 20% absorbed from the intestinal tract, 95% of that binds to albumin? Question 3: I have in the past taken many doses of prescribed DMPS, DMSA, and ALA, some with amalgams in and some with all amalgams out. What damage may I have done, and is it reversible? I have really given a lot of thought to discontinuing all these drugs, as I find the literature available to be just too limited. The DMSA that I was given by my physician is manufactured and distributed by Complimentary Presciptions in Carson City, Nevada. The label reads: DMSA(dimercapto succinic acid) providing 65 mg succinic acid. Can anyone interpret that label for me? Am I getting 100 mg or 65 mg of DMSA? Thanks in advance. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Ok, here are several web pages or documents that mention those statistics. I don't have the studies that the first few are refering to though so I cannot say that the references are correct. Perhaps Andy or someone else has read them. http://www.thorne.com/media/dmsa-heavymetaltoxicity.pdf http://www.thorne.com/media/dmsa_monograph.pdf http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art1697&zTYPE=2 http://www.mercurypoisoningfree.com/page/dmps http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/ Mike > > > I have also read > > > that of the 20% absorbed from the intestinal tract, 95% of that > binds > > > to albumin? > > > > Where did you read that. I read that the DMSA that is not broken down > > is eliminated bound to cysteine. > > > > In any case, the body will eliminate the unused DMSA. > > I remeber reading exactly the same numbers somewhere recently. I'll > try to figure out where I read it and let you know the source. > > Thanks, > Mike > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 This looks to be one of the sources. " Human studies with the chelating agents, DMPS and DMSA. (2,3- dimercaptopropane-1-sulfonic acid, meso-2,3-dimercaptosuccinic acid). " Which I found here, but appears to not have the figures and tables. http://iodine4health.com/research/aposhian_1992_dmps_dmsa.pdf I haven't read the entire doc yet, but I see a reference to the 95% bound to proteins. The 20% appears to be a mistake in interpretation, but I'll need to read more to make sure. I'm guessing that since it says that 20% of the DMSA ingested is found in the urine that they assume that only 20% is absorbed. But since they do not mention (at least that I've read yet) any found in the stool the 20% would be the minimal amount absorbed, since more would be excreted via bile from the liver into the GI tract. Mike > > > > I have also read > > > > that of the 20% absorbed from the intestinal tract, 95% of that > > binds > > > > to albumin? > > > > > > Where did you read that. I read that the DMSA that is not broken > down > > > is eliminated bound to cysteine. > > > > > > In any case, the body will eliminate the unused DMSA. > > > > I remeber reading exactly the same numbers somewhere recently. > I'll > > try to figure out where I read it and let you know the source. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 > Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is > absorbed from the intestinal tract. I would like to see the source of that information See link below for the source: http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/ Michele wrote: > > > > > > > Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is > > absorbed from the intestinal tract. > > I would like to see the source of that information > > > That would only be 2.50 mg per > > dose entering my blood stream. We know the possible downsides to > > taking too much DMSA, but what about too little? > > There will be a dose that is so low that it is not effective. If it > is not effective it is not really a problem. The person will know > soon enough to increase the dose to the point where they start to have > side effects. > > > I have also read > > that of the 20% absorbed from the intestinal tract, 95% of that binds > > to albumin? > > > > Where did you read that. I read that the DMSA that is not broken down > is eliminated bound to cysteine. > > In any case, the body will eliminate the unused DMSA. > > > Question 3: I have in the past taken many doses of prescribed DMPS, > > DMSA, and ALA, some with amalgams in and some with all amalgams out. > > What damage may I have done, and is it reversible? > > The damage is from the chelators redistributing the mercury from the > places where it originally was to places where it was not. In the > process cells are killed and enzymes destroyed, making you sicker. > The only way to start to resolve this is to chelate properly with low > frequent doses taken at the half life. Diet modifications and > appropriate supplements will also give your body the raw materials it > needs to heal. In some cases support for the damaged organs (liver, > brain, thyroid, adrenals) will need to be provided. > > Whether or not it is reversible depends on the individual and can't > really be predicted. The only way we will know is when you report > recovery to the group. Considering that other people in your > circumstance have been able to recover, I think the odds are good. It > would be good to educate yourself as much as possible so that no > further costly mistakes are made. > > I have really > > given a lot of thought to discontinuing all these drugs, as I find > > the literature available to be just too limited. > > DMSA and DMPS, used in the way we use them in our group, are used at > such low doses that they are not likely to cause harm. The harm comes > from the moving metals. To leave the metals in your body would likely > cause more harm in the long term than to take them out (presuming that > DMSA and DMPS are used properly). > > ALA is a chemical that is naturally produced in the human body. You > can chelate with ALA only if you want. It has to be used in low > frequent doses taken at the half life (3 h or more frequently) in > order to get a net movement of metals out of the body and brain. > > The big problem, imo, is that too much misinformation about chelation > has been circulating in the alternative medicine community. People > are getting seriously harmed by inappropriate protocols. The > available literature does support the protocol that Andy has developed. > > The DMSA that I was > > given by my physician is manufactured and distributed by > > Complimentary Presciptions in Carson City, Nevada. The label reads: > > DMSA(dimercapto succinic acid) providing 65 mg succinic acid. Can > > anyone interpret that label for me? Am I getting 100 mg or 65 mg of > > DMSA? > > It's 100 mg DMSA. You will need to start with much smaller doses. > You may want to purchase 25 mg caps that would be easier to split and > save the 100 mg for later in chelation. > > J > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Michele > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 > Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is > absorbed from the intestinal tract. I would like to see the source of that information See link below for the source: http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/ Michele wrote: > > > > > > > Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is > > absorbed from the intestinal tract. > > I would like to see the source of that information > > > That would only be 2.50 mg per > > dose entering my blood stream. We know the possible downsides to > > taking too much DMSA, but what about too little? > > There will be a dose that is so low that it is not effective. If it > is not effective it is not really a problem. The person will know > soon enough to increase the dose to the point where they start to have > side effects. > > > I have also read > > that of the 20% absorbed from the intestinal tract, 95% of that binds > > to albumin? > > > > Where did you read that. I read that the DMSA that is not broken down > is eliminated bound to cysteine. > > In any case, the body will eliminate the unused DMSA. > > > Question 3: I have in the past taken many doses of prescribed DMPS, > > DMSA, and ALA, some with amalgams in and some with all amalgams out. > > What damage may I have done, and is it reversible? > > The damage is from the chelators redistributing the mercury from the > places where it originally was to places where it was not. In the > process cells are killed and enzymes destroyed, making you sicker. > The only way to start to resolve this is to chelate properly with low > frequent doses taken at the half life. Diet modifications and > appropriate supplements will also give your body the raw materials it > needs to heal. In some cases support for the damaged organs (liver, > brain, thyroid, adrenals) will need to be provided. > > Whether or not it is reversible depends on the individual and can't > really be predicted. The only way we will know is when you report > recovery to the group. Considering that other people in your > circumstance have been able to recover, I think the odds are good. It > would be good to educate yourself as much as possible so that no > further costly mistakes are made. > > I have really > > given a lot of thought to discontinuing all these drugs, as I find > > the literature available to be just too limited. > > DMSA and DMPS, used in the way we use them in our group, are used at > such low doses that they are not likely to cause harm. The harm comes > from the moving metals. To leave the metals in your body would likely > cause more harm in the long term than to take them out (presuming that > DMSA and DMPS are used properly). > > ALA is a chemical that is naturally produced in the human body. You > can chelate with ALA only if you want. It has to be used in low > frequent doses taken at the half life (3 h or more frequently) in > order to get a net movement of metals out of the body and brain. > > The big problem, imo, is that too much misinformation about chelation > has been circulating in the alternative medicine community. People > are getting seriously harmed by inappropriate protocols. The > available literature does support the protocol that Andy has developed. > > The DMSA that I was > > given by my physician is manufactured and distributed by > > Complimentary Presciptions in Carson City, Nevada. The label reads: > > DMSA(dimercapto succinic acid) providing 65 mg succinic acid. Can > > anyone interpret that label for me? Am I getting 100 mg or 65 mg of > > DMSA? > > It's 100 mg DMSA. You will need to start with much smaller doses. > You may want to purchase 25 mg caps that would be easier to split and > save the 100 mg for later in chelation. > > J > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Michele > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 > > > > > > > > Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is > > > absorbed from the intestinal tract. > > > > I would like to see the source of that information > > > > > That would only be 2.50 mg per > > > dose entering my blood stream. We know the possible downsides to > > > taking too much DMSA, but what about too little? > > > > There will be a dose that is so low that it is not effective. If it > > is not effective it is not really a problem. The person will know > > soon enough to increase the dose to the point where they start to have > > side effects. > > > > > I have also read > > > that of the 20% absorbed from the intestinal tract, 95% of that binds > > > to albumin? > > > > > > > Where did you read that. I read that the DMSA that is not broken down > > is eliminated bound to cysteine. > > > > In any case, the body will eliminate the unused DMSA. > > > > > Question 3: I have in the past taken many doses of prescribed DMPS, > > > DMSA, and ALA, some with amalgams in and some with all amalgams out. > > > What damage may I have done, and is it reversible? > > > > The damage is from the chelators redistributing the mercury from the > > places where it originally was to places where it was not. In the > > process cells are killed and enzymes destroyed, making you sicker. > > The only way to start to resolve this is to chelate properly with low > > frequent doses taken at the half life. Diet modifications and > > appropriate supplements will also give your body the raw materials it > > needs to heal. In some cases support for the damaged organs (liver, > > brain, thyroid, adrenals) will need to be provided. > > > > Whether or not it is reversible depends on the individual and can't > > really be predicted. The only way we will know is when you report > > recovery to the group. Considering that other people in your > > circumstance have been able to recover, I think the odds are good. It > > would be good to educate yourself as much as possible so that no > > further costly mistakes are made. > > > > I have really > > > given a lot of thought to discontinuing all these drugs, as I find > > > the literature available to be just too limited. > > > > DMSA and DMPS, used in the way we use them in our group, are used at > > such low doses that they are not likely to cause harm. The harm comes > > from the moving metals. To leave the metals in your body would likely > > cause more harm in the long term than to take them out (presuming that > > DMSA and DMPS are used properly). > > > > ALA is a chemical that is naturally produced in the human body. You > > can chelate with ALA only if you want. It has to be used in low > > frequent doses taken at the half life (3 h or more frequently) in > > order to get a net movement of metals out of the body and brain. > > > > The big problem, imo, is that too much misinformation about chelation > > has been circulating in the alternative medicine community. People > > are getting seriously harmed by inappropriate protocols. The > > available literature does support the protocol that Andy has developed. > > > > The DMSA that I was > > > given by my physician is manufactured and distributed by > > > Complimentary Presciptions in Carson City, Nevada. The label reads: > > > DMSA(dimercapto succinic acid) providing 65 mg succinic acid. Can > > > anyone interpret that label for me? Am I getting 100 mg or 65 mg of > > > DMSA? > > > > It's 100 mg DMSA. You will need to start with much smaller doses. > > You may want to purchase 25 mg caps that would be easier to split and > > save the 100 mg for later in chelation. > > > > J > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 > > > > > > > > Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is > > > absorbed from the intestinal tract. > > > > I would like to see the source of that information > > > > > That would only be 2.50 mg per > > > dose entering my blood stream. We know the possible downsides to > > > taking too much DMSA, but what about too little? > > > > There will be a dose that is so low that it is not effective. If it > > is not effective it is not really a problem. The person will know > > soon enough to increase the dose to the point where they start to have > > side effects. > > > > > I have also read > > > that of the 20% absorbed from the intestinal tract, 95% of that binds > > > to albumin? > > > > > > > Where did you read that. I read that the DMSA that is not broken down > > is eliminated bound to cysteine. > > > > In any case, the body will eliminate the unused DMSA. > > > > > Question 3: I have in the past taken many doses of prescribed DMPS, > > > DMSA, and ALA, some with amalgams in and some with all amalgams out. > > > What damage may I have done, and is it reversible? > > > > The damage is from the chelators redistributing the mercury from the > > places where it originally was to places where it was not. In the > > process cells are killed and enzymes destroyed, making you sicker. > > The only way to start to resolve this is to chelate properly with low > > frequent doses taken at the half life. Diet modifications and > > appropriate supplements will also give your body the raw materials it > > needs to heal. In some cases support for the damaged organs (liver, > > brain, thyroid, adrenals) will need to be provided. > > > > Whether or not it is reversible depends on the individual and can't > > really be predicted. The only way we will know is when you report > > recovery to the group. Considering that other people in your > > circumstance have been able to recover, I think the odds are good. It > > would be good to educate yourself as much as possible so that no > > further costly mistakes are made. > > > > I have really > > > given a lot of thought to discontinuing all these drugs, as I find > > > the literature available to be just too limited. > > > > DMSA and DMPS, used in the way we use them in our group, are used at > > such low doses that they are not likely to cause harm. The harm comes > > from the moving metals. To leave the metals in your body would likely > > cause more harm in the long term than to take them out (presuming that > > DMSA and DMPS are used properly). > > > > ALA is a chemical that is naturally produced in the human body. You > > can chelate with ALA only if you want. It has to be used in low > > frequent doses taken at the half life (3 h or more frequently) in > > order to get a net movement of metals out of the body and brain. > > > > The big problem, imo, is that too much misinformation about chelation > > has been circulating in the alternative medicine community. People > > are getting seriously harmed by inappropriate protocols. The > > available literature does support the protocol that Andy has developed. > > > > The DMSA that I was > > > given by my physician is manufactured and distributed by > > > Complimentary Presciptions in Carson City, Nevada. The label reads: > > > DMSA(dimercapto succinic acid) providing 65 mg succinic acid. Can > > > anyone interpret that label for me? Am I getting 100 mg or 65 mg of > > > DMSA? > > > > It's 100 mg DMSA. You will need to start with much smaller doses. > > You may want to purchase 25 mg caps that would be easier to split and > > save the 100 mg for later in chelation. > > > > J > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 , it was me. I brought up the 20$ absorption rate of DMSA a few months ago. I think I debated it with you via email (it could have been someone else). You, or whomever it was, found a good source that verified it was in fact around 20%. Must be in the archives somewhere. I can't remember the date or post subject. > I recall now someone else pointing out that only 20 % of oral DMSA is > absorbed. I'm not sure what the point is that you are trying to make, > or question that you are trying to ask. > > J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 , it was me. I brought up the 20$ absorption rate of DMSA a few months ago. I think I debated it with you via email (it could have been someone else). You, or whomever it was, found a good source that verified it was in fact around 20%. Must be in the archives somewhere. I can't remember the date or post subject. > I recall now someone else pointing out that only 20 % of oral DMSA is > absorbed. I'm not sure what the point is that you are trying to make, > or question that you are trying to ask. > > J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation wrote: > > > Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is > > absorbed from the intestinal tract. > > I would like to see the source of that information > > See link below for the source: > > http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/ There is a lot of misinformation in the above link. Hopefully people who read it won't get confused. ---------I agree . Like it said that DMPS can only be given by injection. We know it can be taken orally, because some of us are doing it.-------Jackie -----------You have to remember, that everything you read on the internet isn't always true, or totally true. And the results of studies can be interpreted wrong, or the studies not done correctly, so that must be considered also. I don't understand the chemistry stuff very well, so I rely on someone like Andy (and ), when it comes to that stuff. And people's actual experiences here are more important to me than most studies. JMO--------Jackie The part about DMSA coming in bound to albumin and later releasing the albumin sounds reasonable. -------------And it didn't say that this stopped the DMSA from chelating metals, at least that's how I read it.----------Jackie I recall now someone else pointing out that only 20 % of oral DMSA is absorbed. I'm not sure what the point is that you are trying to make, or question that you are trying to ask. ----------If her point is that we should be taking higher doses because only 20% is absorbed, that really is irrelevant, IMO, because, you tolerate whatever dose you tolerate, so you are tolerating whatever amount is getting absorbed and being used. That doesn't change because now you think you're only getting 20% of what you thought you were. You tolerate whatever dose you tolerate, and having this information isn't going to make you tolerate 5 times as much.--------Jackie J > > Michele > > ----------rest of message deleted------- Messages in this topic (7) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 13New Members b.. 1New Links Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn. Yahoo! Health Healthy Aging Improve your quality of life. Biz Resources Y! Small Business Articles, tools, forms, and more. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation wrote: > > > Question 2: It is my understanding that only 20% of oral DMSA is > > absorbed from the intestinal tract. > > I would like to see the source of that information > > See link below for the source: > > http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/ There is a lot of misinformation in the above link. Hopefully people who read it won't get confused. ---------I agree . Like it said that DMPS can only be given by injection. We know it can be taken orally, because some of us are doing it.-------Jackie -----------You have to remember, that everything you read on the internet isn't always true, or totally true. And the results of studies can be interpreted wrong, or the studies not done correctly, so that must be considered also. I don't understand the chemistry stuff very well, so I rely on someone like Andy (and ), when it comes to that stuff. And people's actual experiences here are more important to me than most studies. JMO--------Jackie The part about DMSA coming in bound to albumin and later releasing the albumin sounds reasonable. -------------And it didn't say that this stopped the DMSA from chelating metals, at least that's how I read it.----------Jackie I recall now someone else pointing out that only 20 % of oral DMSA is absorbed. I'm not sure what the point is that you are trying to make, or question that you are trying to ask. ----------If her point is that we should be taking higher doses because only 20% is absorbed, that really is irrelevant, IMO, because, you tolerate whatever dose you tolerate, so you are tolerating whatever amount is getting absorbed and being used. That doesn't change because now you think you're only getting 20% of what you thought you were. You tolerate whatever dose you tolerate, and having this information isn't going to make you tolerate 5 times as much.--------Jackie J > > Michele > > ----------rest of message deleted------- Messages in this topic (7) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 13New Members b.. 1New Links Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn. Yahoo! Health Healthy Aging Improve your quality of life. Biz Resources Y! Small Business Articles, tools, forms, and more. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation mle_ii wrote: This looks to be one of the sources. " Human studies with the chelating agents, DMPS and DMSA. (2,3- dimercaptopropane-1-sulfonic acid, meso-2,3-dimercaptosuccinic acid). " Which I found here, but appears to not have the figures and tables. http://iodine4health.com/research/aposhian_1992_dmps_dmsa.pdf I haven't read the entire doc yet, but I see a reference to the 95% bound to proteins. ----------I read your other links, and it does not say that 95% of the DMSA is ineffective, it still says that it is available to bind with metals.--------Jackie The 20% appears to be a mistake in interpretation, but I'll need to read more to make sure. I'm guessing that since it says that 20% of the DMSA ingested is found in the urine that they assume that only 20% is absorbed. But since they do not mention (at least that I've read yet) any found in the stool the 20% would be the minimal amount absorbed, since more would be excreted via bile from the liver into the GI tract. -----------Like I said in another post, it really doesn't matter, at least to me, in my opinion, what percentage gets absorbed into the bloodstream. You tolerate whatever dose you tolerate, so whatever amount from that that is getting into your bloodstream is the amount that you can handle. You're not going to increase your dose by 5 times now (I hope), just because you think you're only absorbing 20% of what you're taking. In this protocol, you dose by what feels best and so that your symptoms are tolerable.----------Jackie Mike > > > > I have also read > > > > that of the 20% absorbed from the intestinal tract, 95% of that > > binds > > > > to albumin? > > > > > > Where did you read that. I read that the DMSA that is not broken > down > > > is eliminated bound to cysteine. > > > > > > In any case, the body will eliminate the unused DMSA. > > > > I remeber reading exactly the same numbers somewhere recently. > I'll > > try to figure out where I read it and let you know the source. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > >._,_.___ Messages in this topic (5) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 12New Members b.. 1New Links Visit Your Group Yahoo! Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn. Ads on Yahoo! Learn more now. Reach customers searching for you. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 > ----------I read your other links, and it does not say that 95% of the DMSA is ineffective, it still says that it is available to bind with metals.--------Jackie > Sorry, I was just supplying the references for the numbers. Didn't read anything there or in any of the other sources that implied that this binding caused it to be ineffective. > -----------Like I said in another post, it really doesn't matter, at least to me, in my opinion, what percentage gets absorbed into the bloodstream. You tolerate whatever dose you tolerate, so whatever amount from that that is getting into your bloodstream is the amount that you can handle. You're not going to increase your dose by 5 times now (I hope), just because you think you're only absorbing 20% of what you're taking. In this protocol, you dose by what feels best and so that your symptoms are tolerable.----------Jackie > Again, I agree. I should have said that I wasn't sayinging anything by posting the references only answering 's question about the possible sources. Exactly 20% of what ever dose is the dose your getting, how you react should be the basis for the ammount not the number. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 > ----------I read your other links, and it does not say that 95% of the DMSA is ineffective, it still says that it is available to bind with metals.--------Jackie > Sorry, I was just supplying the references for the numbers. Didn't read anything there or in any of the other sources that implied that this binding caused it to be ineffective. > -----------Like I said in another post, it really doesn't matter, at least to me, in my opinion, what percentage gets absorbed into the bloodstream. You tolerate whatever dose you tolerate, so whatever amount from that that is getting into your bloodstream is the amount that you can handle. You're not going to increase your dose by 5 times now (I hope), just because you think you're only absorbing 20% of what you're taking. In this protocol, you dose by what feels best and so that your symptoms are tolerable.----------Jackie > Again, I agree. I should have said that I wasn't sayinging anything by posting the references only answering 's question about the possible sources. Exactly 20% of what ever dose is the dose your getting, how you react should be the basis for the ammount not the number. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Sorry Mike if I came across sounding harsh, like you said, you were only providing the links. I just didn't want people to get confused and start questioning their dosages because of those percentages mentioned. And I'll admit, chemistry is not my thing, so others may be more interested in some of this stuff and understand the chemistry part of it much better than I can. But like I said, the amount absorbed is really rather irrevelant, because we dose based on what feels right for each of us individually, not some set number. Anyway, thanks for being willing to take the time to find links like this for us.--------Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation mle_ii wrote: > ----------I read your other links, and it does not say that 95% of the DMSA is ineffective, it still says that it is available to bind with metals.--------Jackie > Sorry, I was just supplying the references for the numbers. Didn't read anything there or in any of the other sources that implied that this binding caused it to be ineffective. > -----------Like I said in another post, it really doesn't matter, at least to me, in my opinion, what percentage gets absorbed into the bloodstream. You tolerate whatever dose you tolerate, so whatever amount from that that is getting into your bloodstream is the amount that you can handle. You're not going to increase your dose by 5 times now (I hope), just because you think you're only absorbing 20% of what you're taking. In this protocol, you dose by what feels best and so that your symptoms are tolerable.----------Jackie > Again, I agree. I should have said that I wasn't sayinging anything by posting the references only answering 's question about the possible sources. Exactly 20% of what ever dose is the dose your getting, how you react should be the basis for the ammount not the number. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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