Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Dean has posted my recent results from doing the Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile with Great Smokies. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html My doctor has not used this test in connection with this chelation protocol, so it will be helpful if anyone has comments, insights, or other knowledge on what this test is/is not telling me. I'm hoping perhaps someone else has dealt with similar results. This is an example of fast Phase I & resulting high rates of oxidation. In the past year, without Andy's information, I'd supported methylation with SamE or TMG/Folate/B12, but wasn't certain whether NAC was helpful, and took glutamine & glycine daily. Now I'm following the combined NAC/glutamine/glycine recommendation to boost glutathione and things seem to be going better in terms of energy and fewer symptoms with chelation. I've known for years glucosamine was a real joint saver (osteoarthritis) & it greatly lessened my joint inflammation/flare-ups, but not all 'brands' worked. Since switching exclusively to the sulfate form, as our book points out, I'm always getting sulfate. At present, I'm trying to eat more grapefruit & take grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano & tumeric. Those are supplements I had around & sensed something good from taking them on occation - but didn't know what it was. It does seem my energy level & concentration are significantly improved by using one or a combination of these in the morning and afternoon to slow the fast Phase I activity, but it's only been a couple of weeks since starting it. As to medications that hit problem pathways or affect liver function, hormones are what I've needed and taken, but any form of ERT has been a problem & both estrogen & dhea do not metabolize correctly into other forms of hormone. While amalgams were still in both compounded Rx progesterone & testosterone could build up in my bloodstream. All of my hormones have tested low in the past. Due to symptoms, I cut my ERT in half to lower the dose several months ago. I'm not on cortisol, but it's consistently very low normal, following the normal pattern, in saliva tests. Is this a hormone I'd have trouble metabolizing? Why are things with a stimulant effect so helpful & life so miserable/sluggish/painful without it - I know this test result tells something in that regard, but I don't know what it is. Do caffeine or other stimulants slow Phase I? I'm so scared of using stimulants that this is hardly acquired reliance on them; in fact, I avoided them almost entirely per a doctor's recommendation for several years, but had to get back to small amounts most days just to function a little. It seems my thyroid medication is nearly ineffective without the combination taken together. I seem to benefit from supplementing tyrosine & DMAE in combination, too, while GABA, 5HTP & Melatonin are very helpful for getting to sleep & getting a good night's rest. I'm adding this, because I suspect it's all connected. Does it make sense that medications, like thyroid, are lasting longer in my system, i.e., 5 hours instead of 4 or less since using things like grapefruit seed extract & tumeric? I was so sure of this I decided to clock them to verify it, as I'm terribly achy, sluggish, brain foggy, & have an alternating slow & racing heart rate when thyroid (Cytomel) loses effectiveness & really hate getting my doses too late. Is ALA going to help the overall liver situation? I'm certain that while I'm on rounds & getting my low doses of ALA, my hormone medications are more effective. Is the Fast Phase I something that can ever be turned around? Does my test actually show slow phase II in connection with this? I'm assuming not - but ratios on page 2 aren't good. Cysteine/sulfate levels start a bit low - how does that connect? Or did a lot of irreversible damage occur prior to getting help with supplements 4-5 years ago? I'd actually reached the stage of acute chemical sensitivities 14-15 years ago, but still had amalgam until this past October. I also had indepth blood work done on cholesterol. Since getting bloodstream Hg levels down in the past few years, it seems I'm going from low cholesterol levels into high. My weight is relatively low. A dangerous form of LDL has crossed into the 'at risk' zone, despite consistent years of fish oil/flax oil supplements, & Vit D was now recommended with them. Is this connected with liver detox ability & developing lipid peroxide-type free radicals? Thanks so much, & I do hope seeing another test result will encourage more to have the Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile test done, if possible. Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Joanne, I couldn't find your test, what number is it under?--------Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation Joanne wrote: Dean has posted my recent results from doing the Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile with Great Smokies. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html My doctor has not used this test in connection with this chelation protocol, so it will be helpful if anyone has comments, insights, or other knowledge on what this test is/is not telling me. I'm hoping perhaps someone else has dealt with similar results. This is an example of fast Phase I & resulting high rates of oxidation. In the past year, without Andy's information, I'd supported methylation with SamE or TMG/Folate/B12, but wasn't certain whether NAC was helpful, and took glutamine & glycine daily. Now I'm following the combined NAC/glutamine/glycine recommendation to boost glutathione and things seem to be going better in terms of energy and fewer symptoms with chelation. I've known for years glucosamine was a real joint saver (osteoarthritis) & it greatly lessened my joint inflammation/flare-ups, but not all 'brands' worked. Since switching exclusively to the sulfate form, as our book points out, I'm always getting sulfate. At present, I'm trying to eat more grapefruit & take grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano & tumeric. Those are supplements I had around & sensed something good from taking them on occation - but didn't know what it was. It does seem my energy level & concentration are significantly improved by using one or a combination of these in the morning and afternoon to slow the fast Phase I activity, but it's only been a couple of weeks since starting it. As to medications that hit problem pathways or affect liver function, hormones are what I've needed and taken, but any form of ERT has been a problem & both estrogen & dhea do not metabolize correctly into other forms of hormone. While amalgams were still in both compounded Rx progesterone & testosterone could build up in my bloodstream. All of my hormones have tested low in the past. Due to symptoms, I cut my ERT in half to lower the dose several months ago. I'm not on cortisol, but it's consistently very low normal, following the normal pattern, in saliva tests. Is this a hormone I'd have trouble metabolizing? Why are things with a stimulant effect so helpful & life so miserable/sluggish/painful without it - I know this test result tells something in that regard, but I don't know what it is. Do caffeine or other stimulants slow Phase I? I'm so scared of using stimulants that this is hardly acquired reliance on them; in fact, I avoided them almost entirely per a doctor's recommendation for several years, but had to get back to small amounts most days just to function a little. It seems my thyroid medication is nearly ineffective without the combination taken together. I seem to benefit from supplementing tyrosine & DMAE in combination, too, while GABA, 5HTP & Melatonin are very helpful for getting to sleep & getting a good night's rest. I'm adding this, because I suspect it's all connected. Does it make sense that medications, like thyroid, are lasting longer in my system, i.e., 5 hours instead of 4 or less since using things like grapefruit seed extract & tumeric? I was so sure of this I decided to clock them to verify it, as I'm terribly achy, sluggish, brain foggy, & have an alternating slow & racing heart rate when thyroid (Cytomel) loses effectiveness & really hate getting my doses too late. Is ALA going to help the overall liver situation? I'm certain that while I'm on rounds & getting my low doses of ALA, my hormone medications are more effective. Is the Fast Phase I something that can ever be turned around? Does my test actually show slow phase II in connection with this? I'm assuming not - but ratios on page 2 aren't good. Cysteine/sulfate levels start a bit low - how does that connect? Or did a lot of irreversible damage occur prior to getting help with supplements 4-5 years ago? I'd actually reached the stage of acute chemical sensitivities 14-15 years ago, but still had amalgam until this past October. I also had indepth blood work done on cholesterol. Since getting bloodstream Hg levels down in the past few years, it seems I'm going from low cholesterol levels into high. My weight is relatively low. A dangerous form of LDL has crossed into the 'at risk' zone, despite consistent years of fish oil/flax oil supplements, & Vit D was now recommended with them. Is this connected with liver detox ability & developing lipid peroxide-type free radicals? Thanks so much, & I do hope seeing another test result will encourage more to have the Comprehensive Liver Detox Profile test done, if possible. Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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