Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 In frequent-dose-chelation MacLean wrote: Since my last round (in which I used too much ALA apparently) I have been having bad mood swings into the negative. Not good. I need to know what Andy recommends for adrenal support. right now I can't concentrate enough to make sense of the book. I know he talks about using cortisol to support adrenals during chelation. My difficulty is hypo-adrenal, or low adrenal function. ---------Have you done a saliva cortisol test, or how do you know you are hypo-adrenal?---------Jackie Would cortisol be better, or DHEA? ---------Would depend on your test results. Saliva tests should test both, cortisol and DHEA. I wouldn't take either, without knowing whether or not you're low.----Jackie Is cortisol available OTC and if so, where can it be purchased? ----------Once again, I wouldn't take it without a doctor, unless you have done testing and know you are low AND you have read alot about this and understand how to use it. You will have to be responsible for this decision yourself. All of that being said, HC (hydrocortisone) is by prescription only, although I think there is a link for ordering it from overseas. There is an OTC product called Isocort, which contains 2.5mg of cortisol per pellet, so it is easy to control dosing amounts. I used it before I was able to get a doctor to prescribe HC for me, but I had done testing. If you try it, start slow, and do not take more than 8 pellets a day, that would equal 20mg of cortisol or HC. Here's the link to purchase it online: http://www.naturalnutritionals.com/bz106.html I think Andy usually suggests trying ACE (adrenal cortex extract) first. I believe he thinks it is safer to try, but he does understand that some people actually need HC or cortisol. It can be wonderful stuff when you need it, but it can also be abused and cause other problems, like high blood sugar. That is why I want you to make sure you understand what you are doing.-------Jackie Any help is appreciated. :-) Ken MacLean __ Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 8New Members b.. 3New Links Visit Your Group Yahoo! Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. FruitaBü Parents Healthy Eating Zone A parenting resource on Yahoo! Groups. Biz Resources Y! Small Business Articles, tools, forms, and more. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 > > Since my last round (in which I used too much ALA apparently) I have > been having bad mood swings into the negative. Not good. I suggest you look in the files for Andy's post on depression (see under the " Andy index subject links " . This will give you a start on what to do for mood problems. Adrenal support can be an important element of mood balancing for some people. Supplements add more benefit, and some people need medication as well. > I need to know what Andy recommends for adrenal support. right now I > can't concentrate enough to make sense of the book. I know he talks > about using cortisol to support adrenals during chelation. My > difficulty is hypo-adrenal, or low adrenal function. Would cortisol be > better, or DHEA? DHEA will not improve cortisol levels, but it is very helpful if you are low in it (immune function, for example). If you need to improve cortisol levels, you can try adrenal cortex (ACE) to see if it helps. Pregnenolone is another option, as it can convert to cortisol. Both are available in HFS or online. Hydrocortisone (HC) and cortef are Rx. See the adrenal info in links for more information. If your adrenals are really broken, you likely need both DHEA and cortisol. -- > Is cortisol available OTC and if so, where can it be purchased? > Any help is appreciated. > :-) Ken MacLean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 > > Since my last round (in which I used too much ALA apparently) I have > been having bad mood swings into the negative. Not good. I suggest you look in the files for Andy's post on depression (see under the " Andy index subject links " . This will give you a start on what to do for mood problems. Adrenal support can be an important element of mood balancing for some people. Supplements add more benefit, and some people need medication as well. > I need to know what Andy recommends for adrenal support. right now I > can't concentrate enough to make sense of the book. I know he talks > about using cortisol to support adrenals during chelation. My > difficulty is hypo-adrenal, or low adrenal function. Would cortisol be > better, or DHEA? DHEA will not improve cortisol levels, but it is very helpful if you are low in it (immune function, for example). If you need to improve cortisol levels, you can try adrenal cortex (ACE) to see if it helps. Pregnenolone is another option, as it can convert to cortisol. Both are available in HFS or online. Hydrocortisone (HC) and cortef are Rx. See the adrenal info in links for more information. If your adrenals are really broken, you likely need both DHEA and cortisol. -- > Is cortisol available OTC and if so, where can it be purchased? > Any help is appreciated. > :-) Ken MacLean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 > > Since my last round (in which I used too much ALA apparently) I have > been having bad mood swings into the negative. Not good. I suggest you look in the files for Andy's post on depression (see under the " Andy index subject links " . This will give you a start on what to do for mood problems. Adrenal support can be an important element of mood balancing for some people. Supplements add more benefit, and some people need medication as well. > I need to know what Andy recommends for adrenal support. right now I > can't concentrate enough to make sense of the book. I know he talks > about using cortisol to support adrenals during chelation. My > difficulty is hypo-adrenal, or low adrenal function. Would cortisol be > better, or DHEA? DHEA will not improve cortisol levels, but it is very helpful if you are low in it (immune function, for example). If you need to improve cortisol levels, you can try adrenal cortex (ACE) to see if it helps. Pregnenolone is another option, as it can convert to cortisol. Both are available in HFS or online. Hydrocortisone (HC) and cortef are Rx. See the adrenal info in links for more information. If your adrenals are really broken, you likely need both DHEA and cortisol. -- > Is cortisol available OTC and if so, where can it be purchased? > Any help is appreciated. > :-) Ken MacLean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Congrats, that's great news:-) Simple stuff can make a world of difference. I have found the temp graphs really interesting to follow my progress in adrenals and thyroids. Sunshine > > After joining here, I started looking into ways I can manage my > symptoms better while I am chelating. I always thought my cortisol > tended to be on the high side. Antidepressant withdrawal really messed > it about; I'd urge anyone who knows they have adrenal problems to stay > well away from ADs as they can potentially make them much worse. > However, I noticed that many of my symptoms actually seem to be signs > of adrenal fatigue. > > I picked up some liquorice root extract yesterday and started using it. > Already I feel much less sleepy and sluggish. It's making a big > difference. Figured I'd try something gentle like this before I went > for a glandular supplement. Thanks for the advice, I think this is > really going to help a lot. > > I also feel noticeably better after my chelation round, though the > round itself was hard work. Good news all round! > > Lou > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Congrats, that's great news:-) Simple stuff can make a world of difference. I have found the temp graphs really interesting to follow my progress in adrenals and thyroids. Sunshine > > After joining here, I started looking into ways I can manage my > symptoms better while I am chelating. I always thought my cortisol > tended to be on the high side. Antidepressant withdrawal really messed > it about; I'd urge anyone who knows they have adrenal problems to stay > well away from ADs as they can potentially make them much worse. > However, I noticed that many of my symptoms actually seem to be signs > of adrenal fatigue. > > I picked up some liquorice root extract yesterday and started using it. > Already I feel much less sleepy and sluggish. It's making a big > difference. Figured I'd try something gentle like this before I went > for a glandular supplement. Thanks for the advice, I think this is > really going to help a lot. > > I also feel noticeably better after my chelation round, though the > round itself was hard work. Good news all round! > > Lou > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 hi i recently started taking glandulas for my adrenals but after a couple of days being on them i had swelling at the back of my throat and flu like symptoms has anyone had that kind of reaction or know why this happened they do contain adrenaline and i know some people can be sensetive to that are there any glandulas that dont contain adrenaline. thanks wendy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 , I have this symptom a lot when dosing my HC. In my case the tonsils swell up, sometimes I feel like I have a sore throat/strep, sometimes it phases out to just a swollen throat. I know it has to do with the health of the immune system and the cortisol levles....I have not found any answers. NP Juile did not have any answers for me either. Some other members on a adrenal yahoo group shared the same symptom when they were increasing their HC in the beginning of treatment. When I experienced it I increased my HC a smidge, and did round the clock caster oil packs along with supplements to help my limpnodes. I figured the body needed assistance to clear out. Tasia > > hi > i recently started taking glandulas for my adrenals but after a couple of days being on them i had swelling at the back of my throat and flu like symptoms has anyone had that kind of reaction or know why this happened they do contain adrenaline and i know some people can be sensetive to that are there any glandulas that dont contain adrenaline. > > thanks wendy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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