Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 > > Can someone please explain the 3 days on requirement? It takes time from the time that the mercury is first picked up until it is eliminated. Andy set 3 days as the minimum time to chelate so that there will be enough mercury eliminated to make the chelation worthwhile. 3 days and 2 nights fits nicely into most work or school schedules so that the person can chelate friday and the rest of the weekend. Most people can make it with waking up for 2 nights and then would have trouble waking up for a third night, especially if they have to go to work. Chelating longer than 3 days is even better if people can do it because the mercury that is stirred up continues to be eliminated until the chelation round is stopped. > Why not one day > at a time? Because the mercury that is stirred up wouldn't have time to be eliminated. >I tolerate that much better. If you lower your dose you may tolerate chelation better. Or, if it is the waking at night that is a problem, try DMPS for several months until you find that you can wake at night. J > Thanks, Mark > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 > > Can someone please explain the 3 days on requirement? It takes time from the time that the mercury is first picked up until it is eliminated. Andy set 3 days as the minimum time to chelate so that there will be enough mercury eliminated to make the chelation worthwhile. 3 days and 2 nights fits nicely into most work or school schedules so that the person can chelate friday and the rest of the weekend. Most people can make it with waking up for 2 nights and then would have trouble waking up for a third night, especially if they have to go to work. Chelating longer than 3 days is even better if people can do it because the mercury that is stirred up continues to be eliminated until the chelation round is stopped. > Why not one day > at a time? Because the mercury that is stirred up wouldn't have time to be eliminated. >I tolerate that much better. If you lower your dose you may tolerate chelation better. Or, if it is the waking at night that is a problem, try DMPS for several months until you find that you can wake at night. J > Thanks, Mark > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Here's the trade-off Mark. As long as you keep a fairly constant level of chelator in your blood, the metals keep getting picked up and eliminated and you have minimal re-distribution. When you stop and the chelator level in your blood goes down, you get some redistribution of the metals in your body. So let's say you require a total of 300 days of chelation to remove your current toxic metal load. If you did it 300 days straight, that would be ideal from the point of view of minimizing redistribution. But you can't do 300 days straight - your body needs to rest. If you did 300 individual days, taking a break in-between, you would have 300 " redistribution events " at the end of each day when you stopped taking chelator and the level dropped to zero. That's a lot of redistribution. So the compromise that seems to work is about 3-day-long rounds. That way you have one-third as many " redistribution events " as if you did one-day rounds. If the rounds are too hard on you, the best solution would be to reduce the dose until the side effects are tolerable. As Andy has explained, if you increase the dose tenfold, you're only eliminating about twice as much metals. So don't underestimate the power of really small, frequent doses. I'm 180 pounds and have been pleasantly surprised at how well 12.5 mg every 3 hours works for me, with minimal side effects. Dean 24 Hour DMSA? Can someone please explain the 3 days on requirement? Why not one day at a time? I tolerate that much better. Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Here's the trade-off Mark. As long as you keep a fairly constant level of chelator in your blood, the metals keep getting picked up and eliminated and you have minimal re-distribution. When you stop and the chelator level in your blood goes down, you get some redistribution of the metals in your body. So let's say you require a total of 300 days of chelation to remove your current toxic metal load. If you did it 300 days straight, that would be ideal from the point of view of minimizing redistribution. But you can't do 300 days straight - your body needs to rest. If you did 300 individual days, taking a break in-between, you would have 300 " redistribution events " at the end of each day when you stopped taking chelator and the level dropped to zero. That's a lot of redistribution. So the compromise that seems to work is about 3-day-long rounds. That way you have one-third as many " redistribution events " as if you did one-day rounds. If the rounds are too hard on you, the best solution would be to reduce the dose until the side effects are tolerable. As Andy has explained, if you increase the dose tenfold, you're only eliminating about twice as much metals. So don't underestimate the power of really small, frequent doses. I'm 180 pounds and have been pleasantly surprised at how well 12.5 mg every 3 hours works for me, with minimal side effects. Dean 24 Hour DMSA? Can someone please explain the 3 days on requirement? Why not one day at a time? I tolerate that much better. Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 > > Can someone please explain the 3 days on requirement? Why not one day > at a time? I tolerate that much better. > Thanks, Mark > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/33779 -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I may try reducing the dmsa dosage down from 12.5mg to like 8mg and see how that works. How do I know if I need mag & c while chelating? Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I may try reducing the dmsa dosage down from 12.5mg to like 8mg and see how that works. How do I know if I need mag & c while chelating? Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 > > I may try reducing the dmsa dosage down from 12.5mg to like 8mg and see > how that works. How do I know if I need mag & c while chelating? > Thanks, Mark > Most (all) people need mag and vit c while chelating. Mg is low in a typical N American diet. Toxic people seem to have trouble with absorption, have kidneys that lose Mg readily, and need lots because the enzymes involved in detoxification need Mg. Vit C is an antioxidant. Hg causes damage through oxidation, so the more vit C (and other antioxidants) on board the better to counteract some of the oxidative stress. See pages 32-33 in Amalgam Illness. There are certain supplements that are essential and others that are optional depending on specific problems. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 > > I may try reducing the dmsa dosage down from 12.5mg to like 8mg and see > how that works. How do I know if I need mag & c while chelating? > Thanks, Mark > Most (all) people need mag and vit c while chelating. Mg is low in a typical N American diet. Toxic people seem to have trouble with absorption, have kidneys that lose Mg readily, and need lots because the enzymes involved in detoxification need Mg. Vit C is an antioxidant. Hg causes damage through oxidation, so the more vit C (and other antioxidants) on board the better to counteract some of the oxidative stress. See pages 32-33 in Amalgam Illness. There are certain supplements that are essential and others that are optional depending on specific problems. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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