Re: Changing the subject title..was Religious tolerance

[Guest guest]

I don't see what all of this has to do with religious tolerance, but

as I am keeping my head down...

(change the subject title?)

I'm in a bit of a pickle this morning. I was in 7th heaven recently

having discovered that I can book almost as many mid week study days

as I wanted from the midirs website. I booked a couple. Then Tavya

and Dov announced they were coming home for two days with baby Rafi

whom I miss HUGELY, and I think the *main* day they will be home, is

one of those study days. DARNNNNNN.

As the old song (which probably none of you remember) goes

: " something's got to give... "

It will have to be the study day. I can't be out all day on the only

day I am babysitting Rafi. I have left a message on the organiser's

voice mail, let's just hope I can cancel or transfer the money to a

different study day.

Yeshaya is being a real pain at the moment. I think he is finally

coming to the realisation that he may not get his five C's at GCSE

needed to go to the other school for 6th form. Although why that

hasn's spurred him onto huge efforts in his remaining exams, I will

never understand. He is being as lazy as ever. He is now in a panic

because he is afraid of losing all his friends. Zevi who *has* worked

his socks off, will be in that 6th form. His other friends are mostly

going to various yeshivahs, scattered all over the country and the

world. All the school trips planned to Israel have been cancelled due

to the volatile situation, and a private trip yeshaya is trying to

organise, to our house in Jerusalem, *might* come off but,

understandably a lot of parents are worried about sending their boys

out there at the moment. He is looking ahead and seeing only acres of

nothingness. No 6th form at the school he wants so desperately to get

into but for some reason isn't prepared to put in the effort for. No

fun trip. " Get a job " I say. A lot of his friends are. He doesn't

like the idea, he wants *fun*.

So he's sulking and whingeing and " " ing around and I am going

nuts!

Ruthie

>

> > *loud raspberry*

> > 14/08/99 " Why use words when throwing yourself on the

floor

> > or sticking your hand up your mother's top conveys all anyone

needs

> > to know? "

>

> Well that's a bit more subtle than Kitty (22/7/99) who shouts

'BOOBIES

> LICIOUS' and 'BOOBIES PLEASE' at the top of her voice in the middle

of

> crowds!

>

>

> http://www.foxstitch.co.uk/

[Guest guest]

Ruthie wrote:

> So he's sulking and whingeing and " " ing around and I am going

> nuts!

Ruthie I've been thinking so often about the problems you're having

but it was enlightening to read your comment the other day about ?not

always having been as religious as you are now.

I think it's great that you are doing everything to try to put him on

the right path but maybe your parents felt some similar

despair/frustration when they thought you might be straying?

I suppose it's that old thing about giving them roots and letting them

fly. Or something like that. Never was any good at quotes - usually

brilliant with phone numbers and number plates though!

--

Sue

[Guest guest]

> > So he's sulking and whingeing and " " ing around and I am going

> > nuts!

>

> Ruthie I've been thinking so often about the problems you're having

> but it was enlightening to read your comment the other day about

?not

> always having been as religious as you are now.

Well..to clarify. My parents weren't nearly as religious as DH is, so

I was brought up less religious. It wasn't a question of me

straying,that was how I was. I was allowed to date boys and have fun.

I think I had my mid life crisis when I became embittered against my

first orthodox publishers. My reasoning was : " if so called orthodox

people can treat their authors like s**t, do I really want to

associate myself with such hypocrites? " Especially since I was

getting paid on the nail by non Jewish publishers of my articles,

short stories etc. This led to a real crisis in me which lasted for a

few years, during which I did not behave as I should. I don't want to

go into details but I am not proud of those years. My crisis was

ended sharply with Uri's death. I know you will poo-poo this but I

honestly feel it was a sign that I should stop and rethink my life.

I had a long hard struggle back. My lyric writing with shady and

decidedly unsavoury pop musicians was all part of it. I abandoned

that too. My family were suffering. I never wanted anyone to suffer

damage for my " adventures " .

So I do understand Yeshaya, both from the standpoint of how I was

brought up, and how I was during my crisis. It doesn't mean that I

shouldn't do my best from a standpoint of experience, and where I have

now reached, to make him the best person I possibly can achieve.

Ruthie

>

> I think it's great that you are doing everything to try to put him

on

> the right path but maybe your parents felt some similar

> despair/frustration when they thought you might be straying?

>

> I suppose it's that old thing about giving them roots and letting

them

> fly. Or something like that. Never was any good at quotes -

usually

> brilliant with phone numbers and number plates though!

>

> --

> Sue