Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 In frequent-dose-chelation Nicola wrote: Hi Jackie thanks for your comments. I have to confess to being in a bit of a panic about this. My blood sugar is averaging between 6-7mmol today, going down to 5.5 after a meal, and rising before the next one. It is very bizarre, but apparently that is insulin resistance or pre- diabetes. ---------Hi Nicola. I don't have a meter, so haven't been able to track my levels, so I can't compare to what's happening to you.--------Jackie I have taken my pred doses differently today, in the hope of getting a longer spread of efficacy, and therefore be able to lower the dose, but I would love to know how long this is going to take. ---------I really don't know, since I'm just starting this also. told me to get down to as low a dose of HC as possible. I think she consulted Andy about my problem, because I asked about the arsenic/blood sugar connection, and he suggested I try taking Adrenal Cortex Extract, to see if that would help me lower my dose of HC. So I am working on building up my dose of that also. But too soon to tell. At least I tolerate it now. I had tried it a long time ago, and didn't tolerate it back then. So maybe that is something you could try also. And if the arsenic is affecting my blood sugar, then he said as low a carb of a diet, such as Atkins, that I can stand, and to take Biotin 8mg, 4X a day, is what to do to help with that. It has something to do with pyruvates. I do feel best when I eat meat and vegetables, so this does make sense in my case.--------Jackie I am also stopping my calcium supplement, because I know that this makes my blood sugar problems worse. ----------If you know it makes it worse, then I would stop it also. I haven't made any correlation with that, so I don't know if it's part of my problem or not.-----Jackie I really really don't want to have diabetes on top of everything else, but it looks like I am heading that way. -------------I know what you mean. I really didn't want to hear that I had one more thing wrong with me. Especially right after my mom had passed away. It was pretty hard to accept. So I'm hoping that the HC was the big culprit and this won't be a life-long problem. And I'm really hoping that chelation will correct these types of things that are out of whack in my body. I'm tired of being a mess.-------Jackie I don't know what else to do - my diet is already reduced to meat, eggs and vegetables and has been for 2 years, so it sure isn't caused by that! It MUST be the steroids - I also take Florinef at a fairly high dose. --------Wow, your diet certainly doesn't sound like it's contributing at all. I do feel best when I also eat meat, eggs, and vegetables, but I do eat some carbs, but try to limit them. I would suspect the steroids in your case also. I have no idea if the Florinef would affect this too. I have had a couple people with medical backgrounds, besides my doctor, say that high blood sugar can be steroid-induced. So it probably is a big factor in our problem.----------Jackie The funny thing is that I have no signs of too much cortisol - no buffalo hump, no high blood pressure (it's still low), no swelling, nothing. And I wouldn't mind if I got the euphoria effect of too much steroid, but I still feel rubbish!! ----------So what is a buffalo hump? Haven't heard that one. If you still don't feel well, then it is probably the high blood sugar or something else. I think I made the mistake that if I didn't feel good, then more HC would fix it. I think sometimes I got it right, and other times it wasn't what I needed. So maybe that is what is happening to you too. And in AI, Andy says that if your problem is more pituitary, then it can be very hard to dose HC correctly, like if you have that ACTH paradoxical response to stress. So I'm wondering if that is my problem also.---------Jackie I also have Metformin, but I need to go to my GP and get some proper testing before starting that. :-(((( -----------Did you ever try it? How long ago did he prescribe it? I may have been leary of a prescription just from my regular doctor, but suggested it, and I have also read about it at the VRP website, and the doctor there recommends it also. Someone there said it helped them lose weight, so I hope that happens to me! I've only been taking it for a week, but I think it might be helping, and I think I may be less hungry and eating less too, so maybe it will be a real good thing. So it is probably worth you pursuing it.-----------Jackie 18 months after amalgam removal I really hoped I was on an upward path to better health, not getting worse!! -------------I know exactly what you mean! I really thought I'd be farther along by now too. But I have to remember in my case that I have had alot of stress during this whole time, and other medical issue/problems/emergencies that I don't think are related to this at all, so I guess setbacks are inevitable for me. And I have an upcoming surgery next week, so something to sidetrack me again. So I guess we have to just keep plugging along, and hopefully will turn the corner soon. Let's hope for a much better year in 2008!---------Jackie The hair analysis showed my Ca/Mg ratio of 55 a year before I started the steroids, it also showed very low sodium / potassium, so my adrenals were beaten up for sure. So all these was there before I got on the steroids, but has probably been made worse by them. Like I said, I always had problems with low blood sugar until recently, so this is all new to me. -----------My Ca/Mg ratio was in range on both of my hair tests, so no indication there of blood sugar problems. My adrenals go the other way, low Ca and Mg, but still shows the signs of adrenal stress too. So I think the steroids are very suspect in our cases.--------Jackie I guess exercise is the only thing left - and I can't really do that either. Fed up. Good to know I'm not on my own though... ------------Yes exercise and losing weight is supposed to really help and can be enough to control it, along with diet, for some people. I know what you mean about the exercise thing, I can't do it like I used to either, and I'm not good at trying to make myself do little bits. But if you (we) could tolerate short walks or get a mini-trampoline or try yoga or something like that, that would probably help. I found some notes from on what to do to help control this: ----get HC dose as low as possible -----study glycemic load and index -----get at least 30 grams of fiber a day, supplement if necessary -----exercise, even just walking -------lose weight, even 5% helps -------prescription for Metformin I hope this helps. We'll have to keep in touch on this issue. Good luck, and hang in there!--------Jackie Nicola > --------I am back at my maintenance dose of HC and will certainly be much more careful about stress-dosing in the future. recommended I ask my regular doctor for a prescription for Metformin, to help control/lower my blood sugar, so I just started that one week ago. I think it is probably helping, but it hasn't been long enough yet to do any follow-up testing. And of course I'm watching what I eat, avoiding sweets and limiting carbs.---------Jackie > > > > Will blood sugar levels correct themselves if you > reduce your HC dosage? > > ------------Theoretically, yes they should. But I may just be more genetically prone to this problem, because I was told a couple years ago that I was insulin resistant. How much the heavy metals has to do with this, I don't know. And like I said, it hasn't been long enough to do follow-up testing, and now that I'm taking the Metformin, I won't know if they came down because of that or from reducing the HC or diet or what.----------Jackie > > > > My Ca/Mg was out of range in my last hair test (44) and has been as > high as 55, so I expect blood sugar problems. But they have always > been hypo rather than hyper, so this is a bit new to me. In any case, > I don't know whether my problems are due to this ratio being out of > whack, or too much cortisol. Is there any way of knowing? > > -----------I really don't know the answer, Nicola. Have you had hair tests before and after starting to take prednisolone (cortisol)? If the ratio was out of whack before you ever started taking prednisolone, then I would think the problem was already there and not *caused* by the prednisolone. But this is not to say that it did not exacerbate the problem though. And since my hair test didn't show this out of range, I can't say what caused my problem either, but it certainly appears that the excess cortisol (HC) I took this fall was what pushed it over the edge.------Jackie >.___ Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 9New Members b.. 1New Links Visit Your Group Yahoo! Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. FruitaBü Group A Parent´s Place to share ideas on family cooking. Wellness Spot Embrace Change Break the Yo-Yo weight loss cycle. . 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