Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 > I refused to sign this written repremand and was immediatly suspended without pay, pending further review of this call and my actions. > McGee, EMT-P > As a former business owner I was told that employee's had the right to refuse signing disciplinary statements and that further discipline could not be handed out because they refused. That all you did is document the refusal with a witness present and place it in the file. Has this recently changed? Or was my business attorney incorrect? Or was he just using common sense and saving me and the employees a headache? Renny Spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 The employee does have the right to refuse, the employer then has the right to terminate/suspend. As long as the employer does not violate discrimination laws, what could possibly be illegal about disciplining them?  Your attorney was giving you excellent CYA practices.....  Now that said, the REASON that the person in the thread was disciplined is (in my opinion) illegal. Hatfield " The main part of intellectual education is not the acquisition of facts but learning how to make facts live. " - Oliver Wendell Holmes Subject: Is this even legal? Refusing to sign reprimands was Re: Raw deal or not To: texasems-l Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 4:08 PM  > I refused to sign this written repremand and was immediatly suspended without pay, pending further review of this call and my actions. > McGee, EMT-P > As a former business owner I was told that employee's had the right to refuse signing disciplinary statements and that further discipline could not be handed out because they refused. That all you did is document the refusal with a witness present and place it in the file. Has this recently changed? Or was my business attorney incorrect? Or was he just using common sense and saving me and the employees a headache? Renny Spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 The employee does have the right to refuse, the employer then has the right to terminate/suspend. As long as the employer does not violate discrimination laws, what could possibly be illegal about disciplining them?  Your attorney was giving you excellent CYA practices.....  Now that said, the REASON that the person in the thread was disciplined is (in my opinion) illegal. Hatfield " The main part of intellectual education is not the acquisition of facts but learning how to make facts live. " - Oliver Wendell Holmes Subject: Is this even legal? Refusing to sign reprimands was Re: Raw deal or not To: texasems-l Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 4:08 PM  > I refused to sign this written repremand and was immediatly suspended without pay, pending further review of this call and my actions. > McGee, EMT-P > As a former business owner I was told that employee's had the right to refuse signing disciplinary statements and that further discipline could not be handed out because they refused. That all you did is document the refusal with a witness present and place it in the file. Has this recently changed? Or was my business attorney incorrect? Or was he just using common sense and saving me and the employees a headache? Renny Spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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