Wiki Cites (WAS: Re: Re: Airway Question)

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Be careful using Wiki's as any source citations in any article for

publication. I know of at least 3 major fire and EMS trade magazines that have

an

outright ban on any citation from any Wiki. They will accept any

" legitimate " citation from the web if you got it from a Wiki but not the Wiki

itself.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

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In a message dated 5/7/2010 8:46:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

krin135@... writes:

considering that I have edited a fair number of articles on Wiki,

including updating links to 'real' medical information. I would accept a wiki

reference as long as you *also* followed the links to the references and cited

them.

ck

Re: Re: Airway Question

pardon, Sir, but the " Orange Book, Second Edition " was *at least* 6 years

old by the time you took your -A course.

I took my 81 hour -A course in 1976-7 with the Second Edition... and,

IIRC,

we were the second or third class at that training center to use it (St

ph's Hospital Medical Center, Bloomington, IL).

ck

In a message dated 5/6/2010 16:03:43 Central Daylight Time,

lnmolino (AT) aol (DOT) com writes:

Part of the issue here is the 6th edition is a full 4 editions ago.

Granted even me a Basic knew that nasal intubation was a NO NO in the case

of a skull fracture.

Oh my EMT-A course in 1981 was with the brand new AAOS 2nd Ed.

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In a message dated 5/6/2010 3:28:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

_medic0946 (AT) yahoo (DOT) med_ (mailto:medic0946@_medic0946@_medic09

Rick, you were correct. Nasal intubation should be avoided in the

possibility of basal skull fx.

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> Ok group,

> I normally do more reading than talking on here, but I have a question

that is killing my brain, LoL. I'm studying for my NREMTP using the "

Caroline's Emergency Care in the Streets 6th Edition " student workbook.

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> Under the " Airway Management & Ventilation " chapter the question states,

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> You have a 42 y/o female extricated from a wrecked vehicle; she is

unconscious and has a depressed skull fracture at the back of her head. To

secure an airway would you choose,

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> A. Blind nasotracheal intubation as the preferred technique.

> B. Tracheal intubation as the preferred technique.

> C. Cricothyrotomy as the preferred technique.

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> I chose " B' as my answer, and was told (by the answers in the back of

the book) that the correct answer was " A " . Please correct me if I'm wrong

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I am still learning, but have we not always been taught NOT to use

nasotracheal intubation if the pt has a skull fracture of any kind?

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> Everyones input will be greatly appreciated, because I really need to

pass my test.

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> Thanks,

> R.

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