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Probably a divorce lawyer.... or a lazy state agency attorney. ;-)

-Wes

In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:31:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

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Sounds like she just get her lawyer bill to me.... =)

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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 18:15

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_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and

the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser

for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of

an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech.

Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Probably a divorce lawyer.... or a lazy state agency attorney. ;-)

-Wes

In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:31:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

adam.johnson@... writes:

Sounds like she just get her lawyer bill to me.... =)

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From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

[mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On

Behalf Of _ExLngHrn@..._ (mailto:ExLngHrn@...)

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 18:15

To: _Paramedicine _ (mailto:Paramedicine ) ;

_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and

the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser

for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of

an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech.

Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/dL.

Pupils unequal. Obvious weakness left side when you check a stroke scale.

No medical alert tag. No obvious signs of trauma. The only medicine

you find on scene is a box containing a drug called Enbrel.

-Wes

In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lrichardson@... writes:

Ok Professor Wes!

Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke

Scale? Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

________________________________

From: texasems-l [texasems-l ] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@... [ExLngHrn@...]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine ; texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/dL.

Pupils unequal. Obvious weakness left side when you check a stroke scale.

No medical alert tag. No obvious signs of trauma. The only medicine

you find on scene is a box containing a drug called Enbrel.

-Wes

In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lrichardson@... writes:

Ok Professor Wes!

Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke

Scale? Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

________________________________

From: texasems-l [texasems-l ] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@... [ExLngHrn@...]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine ; texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Ok Professor Wes!

Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke Scale?

Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

________________________________

From: texasems-l [texasems-l ] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@... [ExLngHrn@...]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine ; texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Ok Professor Wes!

Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke Scale?

Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

________________________________

From: texasems-l [texasems-l ] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@... [ExLngHrn@...]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine ; texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Ok Professor Wes!

Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke Scale?

Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

________________________________

From: texasems-l [texasems-l ] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@... [ExLngHrn@...]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine ; texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Sounds like she just get her lawyer bill to me.... =)

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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 18:15

To: Paramedicine ; texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and

the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser

for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of

an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech.

Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Sounds like she just get her lawyer bill to me.... =)

________________________________

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of ExLngHrn@...

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 18:15

To: Paramedicine ; texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and

the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser

for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of

an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech.

Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Since Enbrel can cause demyelinating cns disorders I am going to guess neuro

issues from the Enbrel

Rick

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From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Sent: Thu Jun 10 18:35:40 2010

Subject: Re: EMS challenge

Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/dL.

Pupils unequal. Obvious weakness left side when you check a stroke scale.

No medical alert tag. No obvious signs of trauma. The only medicine

you find on scene is a box containing a drug called Enbrel.

-Wes

In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lrichardson@...

writes:

Ok Professor Wes!

Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke

Scale? Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

________________________________

From: texasems-l

[texasems-l ] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@...

[ExLngHrn@...]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine ;

texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Since Enbrel can cause demyelinating cns disorders I am going to guess neuro

issues from the Enbrel

Rick

Sent via Blackberry

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From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Sent: Thu Jun 10 18:35:40 2010

Subject: Re: EMS challenge

Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/dL.

Pupils unequal. Obvious weakness left side when you check a stroke scale.

No medical alert tag. No obvious signs of trauma. The only medicine

you find on scene is a box containing a drug called Enbrel.

-Wes

In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lrichardson@...

writes:

Ok Professor Wes!

Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke

Scale? Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

________________________________

From: texasems-l

[texasems-l ] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@...

[ExLngHrn@...]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine ;

texasems-l

Subject: EMS challenge

Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge (and the

prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-teaser for

all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel resort

in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental status

call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the floor of an

office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred speech. Her

co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they can't

remember what it is.

Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although abnormally),

you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

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Transport. Go to next call.

Since Enbrel can cause demyelinating cns disorders I am going to guess neuro

issues from the Enbrel

Rick

Sent via Blackberry

________________________________

From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l <

texasems-l >

Sent: Thu Jun 10 18:35:40 2010

Subject: Re: EMS challenge

Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/dL.

Pupils unequal. Obvious...

lrichardson@...

>

writes: Ok Professor W...

From: texasems-l

> [

texasems-l

>] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@...

>

[ExLngHrn@...

>]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

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>;

texasems-l

>

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Gandy offered a challe...

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Transport. Go to next call.

Since Enbrel can cause demyelinating cns disorders I am going to guess neuro

issues from the Enbrel

Rick

Sent via Blackberry

________________________________

From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l <

texasems-l >

Sent: Thu Jun 10 18:35:40 2010

Subject: Re: EMS challenge

Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/dL.

Pupils unequal. Obvious...

lrichardson@...

>

writes: Ok Professor W...

From: texasems-l

> [

texasems-l

>] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@...

>

[ExLngHrn@...

>]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine

>;

texasems-l

>

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Transport. Go to next call.

Since Enbrel can cause demyelinating cns disorders I am going to guess neuro

issues from the Enbrel

Rick

Sent via Blackberry

________________________________

From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l <

texasems-l >

Sent: Thu Jun 10 18:35:40 2010

Subject: Re: EMS challenge

Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/dL.

Pupils unequal. Obvious...

lrichardson@...

>

writes: Ok Professor W...

From: texasems-l

> [

texasems-l

>] On Behalf Of

ExLngHrn@...

>

[ExLngHrn@...

>]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

To: Paramedicine

>;

texasems-l

>

Subject: EMS challenge Since it's been a while since Professor

Gandy offered a challe...

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Nope.

Wes

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> Since Enbrel can cause demyelinating cns disorders I am going to

> guess neuro issues from the Enbrel

> Rick

> Sent via Blackberry

>

> ________________________________

> From: texasems-l texasems-l >

> To: texasems-l texasems-l >

> Sent: Thu Jun 10 18:35:40 2010

> Subject: Re: EMS challenge

>

>

>

> Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/

> dL.

> Pupils unequal. Obvious weakness left side when you check a stroke

> scale.

> No medical alert tag. No obvious signs of trauma. The only medicine

> you find on scene is a box containing a drug called Enbrel.

>

> -Wes

>

>

> In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> lrichardson@...

%40ci.duncanville.tx.us> writes:

>

> Ok Professor Wes!

>

> Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke

> Scale? Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

> ________________________________

> From: texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com> [texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

> ExLngHrn@...

> [ExLngHrn@...]

> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

> To: Paramedicine

%40yahoogroups.com>; texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: EMS challenge

>

> Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge

> (and the

> prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-

> teaser for

> all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel

> resort

> in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

>

> On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental

> status

> call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the

> floor of an

> office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred

> speech. Her

> co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

> can't

> remember what it is.

>

> Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

> abnormally),

> you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

> palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

>

> What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

>

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> -Austin, Texas

>

>

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Nope.

Wes

Sent from my iPhone

> Since Enbrel can cause demyelinating cns disorders I am going to

> guess neuro issues from the Enbrel

> Rick

> Sent via Blackberry

>

> ________________________________

> From: texasems-l texasems-l >

> To: texasems-l texasems-l >

> Sent: Thu Jun 10 18:35:40 2010

> Subject: Re: EMS challenge

>

>

>

> Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/

> dL.

> Pupils unequal. Obvious weakness left side when you check a stroke

> scale.

> No medical alert tag. No obvious signs of trauma. The only medicine

> you find on scene is a box containing a drug called Enbrel.

>

> -Wes

>

>

> In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> lrichardson@...

%40ci.duncanville.tx.us> writes:

>

> Ok Professor Wes!

>

> Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke

> Scale? Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

> ________________________________

> From: texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com> [texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

> ExLngHrn@...

> [ExLngHrn@...]

> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

> To: Paramedicine

%40yahoogroups.com>; texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: EMS challenge

>

> Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge

> (and the

> prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-

> teaser for

> all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel

> resort

> in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

>

> On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental

> status

> call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the

> floor of an

> office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred

> speech. Her

> co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

> can't

> remember what it is.

>

> Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

> abnormally),

> you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

> palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

>

> What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

>

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> -Austin, Texas

>

>

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Nope.

Wes

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> Since Enbrel can cause demyelinating cns disorders I am going to

> guess neuro issues from the Enbrel

> Rick

> Sent via Blackberry

>

> ________________________________

> From: texasems-l texasems-l >

> To: texasems-l texasems-l >

> Sent: Thu Jun 10 18:35:40 2010

> Subject: Re: EMS challenge

>

>

>

> Your scene is a fairly normal office building. Blood sugar is 128 mg/

> dL.

> Pupils unequal. Obvious weakness left side when you check a stroke

> scale.

> No medical alert tag. No obvious signs of trauma. The only medicine

> you find on scene is a box containing a drug called Enbrel.

>

> -Wes

>

>

> In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> lrichardson@...

%40ci.duncanville.tx.us> writes:

>

> Ok Professor Wes!

>

> Some clues please! scene findings? other VS's? Blood Sugar? Stroke

> Scale? Pupils? Obvious trauma? medical alert tags? meds on scene?

> ________________________________

> From: texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com> [texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

> ExLngHrn@...

> [ExLngHrn@...]

> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:14 PM

> To: Paramedicine

%40yahoogroups.com>; texasems-l

%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: EMS challenge

>

> Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge

> (and the

> prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-

> teaser for

> all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel

> resort

> in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

>

> On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental

> status

> call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the

> floor of an

> office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred

> speech. Her

> co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

> can't

> remember what it is.

>

> Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

> abnormally),

> you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

> palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

>

> What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

>

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> -Austin, Texas

>

>

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Wes,

Would you describe this patient as " thin " by any chance?

-Brad

Sent via BlackBerry, the office that follows you.

EMS challenge

>

> Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge

> (and the

> prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-

> teaser for

> all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel

> resort

> in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

>

> On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental

> status

> call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the

> floor of an

> office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred

> speech. Her

> co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

> can't

> remember what it is.

>

> Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

> abnormally),

> you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

> palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

>

> What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

>

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> -Austin, Texas

>

>

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Wes,

Would you describe this patient as " thin " by any chance?

-Brad

Sent via BlackBerry, the office that follows you.

EMS challenge

>

> Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge

> (and the

> prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-

> teaser for

> all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel

> resort

> in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

>

> On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental

> status

> call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the

> floor of an

> office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred

> speech. Her

> co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

> can't

> remember what it is.

>

> Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

> abnormally),

> you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

> palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

>

> What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

>

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> -Austin, Texas

>

>

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No. The patient is actually overweight.

Wes Ogilvie

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> Wes,

>

> Would you describe this patient as " thin " by any chance?

>

> -Brad

>

> Sent via BlackBerry, the office that follows you.

>

> EMS challenge

> >

> > Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge

> > (and the

> > prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-

> > teaser for

> > all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel

> > resort

> > in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

> >

> > On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental

> > status

> > call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the

> > floor of an

> > office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred

> > speech. Her

> > co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

> > can't

> > remember what it is.

> >

> > Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

> > abnormally),

> > you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

> > palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

> >

> > What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

> >

> > -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> > -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> > -Austin, Texas

> >

> >

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No. The patient is actually overweight.

Wes Ogilvie

Sent from my iPad

> Wes,

>

> Would you describe this patient as " thin " by any chance?

>

> -Brad

>

> Sent via BlackBerry, the office that follows you.

>

> EMS challenge

> >

> > Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge

> > (and the

> > prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-

> > teaser for

> > all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel

> > resort

> > in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

> >

> > On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental

> > status

> > call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the

> > floor of an

> > office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred

> > speech. Her

> > co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

> > can't

> > remember what it is.

> >

> > Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

> > abnormally),

> > you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

> > palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

> >

> > What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

> >

> > -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> > -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> > -Austin, Texas

> >

> >

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No. The patient is actually overweight.

Wes Ogilvie

Sent from my iPad

> Wes,

>

> Would you describe this patient as " thin " by any chance?

>

> -Brad

>

> Sent via BlackBerry, the office that follows you.

>

> EMS challenge

> >

> > Since it's been a while since Professor Gandy offered a challenge

> > (and the

> > prize-winner's trip to Ladonia), I present the following brain-

> > teaser for

> > all of y'all. Alas, there are no prizes since the half-star hotel

> > resort

> > in Ladonia is closed for fumigation.

> >

> > On to the challenge...... you are dispatched to an altered mental

> > status

> > call. Upon arrival, you find a middle-aged female laying on the

> > floor of an

> > office. She is semi-coherent and semi-combative, with slurred

> > speech. Her

> > co-workers know that she has an extensive medical history, but they

> > can't

> > remember what it is.

> >

> > Oddly, while the patient is breathing and speaking (although

> > abnormally),

> > you cannot obtain a radial pulse or a blood pressure. You do find a

> > palpable carotid pulse at 72 bpm.

> >

> > What is happening to the patient and what is the underlying etiology?

> >

> > -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

> > -Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

> > -Austin, Texas

> >

> >

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