Re: Re: Avosoy/muscles

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Hi Joyce,

In a possible vain effort to explain what I think I learnt about muscles

last weekend I will try here as it has some relevance to what is bothering

you........

Firstly getting muscles going again has some dependance on the starting

state thereof. i.e. Your shoulder/arm muscles may be fairly fit and okay so

you can help move things about whereas the leg muscles are not great and

will react quite differently to levels of use. Apparently upper muscles

remain more generally fit than lower muscles which doesn't help

either.......

When we use a muscle anywhere in the body we do so by setting off a chemical

reaction which incidently is very calcium dependant........... When we are

talking muscles being forced to go beyond what that particular muscle

considers 'normal' right then - and the unfit 'normal' is different from

more mobile 'normal' so we are talking relatives here - we often cause minor

stress damage to said muscle....... That is responsible for the

soreness............ that is chemical based too............. and said

soreness has something to do with the calcium leaking out through the stress

damage and creating mini havoc to the other cells...........

The soreness

goes when the cleanup cells have eliminated the leakage material, repaired

the damage etc.......... as I understand it potassium plays a big role here

and why bananas are often eaten by super athletes...........and usually the

repair job gives you a marginally stronger muscle, so you can use it to

that level without it getting sore again i.e. you will be able to walk a

tiny bit further without encountering soreness.

Now in bodies such as mine where atrophy is rampant, i.e. normal is pretty

unfit.......... the actual blood vessels etc necessary to go in and do the

repairs etc are not necessarily working too well either......... i.e. they

have gone shrunken with lack of use........... So soreness doesn't vanish

as easily as it does in the relatively fitter.........

Now at the same time if one stretches or massages said muscle you apparently

can force the calcium back into where it should be, aid to move some now

dead cells out into the blood stream, get more blood moving to site etc and

that is why stretching helps relieve the soreness............... but of

course even that happening is still going to be a little dependant on how

many well working clean up vessels are functioning in the area..........

The catch 22 of a human body is that this process seems to be how muscles

are built up.......... and that they will only build up if one keeps

subjecting them to forces above what they are being maintained at....... and

to even keep them maintained we have to keep a certain level of pressure on

them with daily living, walking etc........... leave off that pressure and

muscles fairly quickly appear to decide to down tools......... Anyone who

teaches can probably think of this as kids working in a class..........

leave off the pressure and there isn't much left to call on by way of

cooperation.........

When I first started using mine again I had a lot of funny weak feelings,

cramps etc...... With my little bit of maybe misguided knowledge I would say

that some of this is because the firing processes were not adequate, the

body had difficulties moving the necessary chemicals along channels because

of lack of use - so not enough was there for the amount of use I wanted the

muscles to do, and there wasn't enough healthy clean up channels open and

operating...... It sounds like at least some of your leg/lower back muscles

were in that atrophied state post op for them to be feeling weak, cramping

etc. now.

Getting from that sort of state to a fairly normally operating state takes

time and some degree of patience........... I now can see that doing it in

gradual fashion is far better than rushing at it as well........... which I

was inclinded to do first off.......... For that tends to create too much

soreness, too much for the still not too well functioning clean up brigade

to handle - so too much soreness, stiffness etc for too long.............. A

bodies instinct is to rebuild but there are a heap of variables in the rate

as I now appreciate...........a major one being what you consider normal and

what I consider normal.......... i.e. are we talking getting sore after a 3

mile hike or sore after a half mile one etc.

If that is any help whatever and if there are others who can correct that

please do so............. i.e. I need to pass this course........smile.

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> & Alan -- thanks for the feedback. I see, on Dr Theo's website,

that

> there is an Avosoy coming in August -- that also contains chondrioton.

> Isn't chondroiton the " repair " part of the formula?? Anyway, I've order

> more and cannot wait for it to get here. did you do any sort of

> stretching/exercise on your muscles or was this just not a problem for

you?

> I swear, I get discouraged when I try walking and end up in such a muscle

> mess. My last project was helping a friend rebuild porch, deck, and

steps.

> I didn't seize up at all. But walking? Everytime. And hints, spells or

> incantations you can suggest would be appreciated. Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR,

> 2/2/04)

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