Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. Sent from my iPhone > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > Who is the President? > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > Coug. > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. Sent from my iPhone > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > Who is the President? > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > Coug. > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Well, the lawyer doesn't. Being a student and living with her parents has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not she's an adult for consent/refusal. In Texas, as in most of the other states, 18 is the age of consent/refusal. So she can refuse regardless of what her parents say, assuming that she has the present mental capacity to refuse. That's another matter. One must determine present mental capacity before dealing with the issue of refusal. Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P Re: Scenario from Alyssa Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Well, the lawyer doesn't. Being a student and living with her parents has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not she's an adult for consent/refusal. In Texas, as in most of the other states, 18 is the age of consent/refusal. So she can refuse regardless of what her parents say, assuming that she has the present mental capacity to refuse. That's another matter. One must determine present mental capacity before dealing with the issue of refusal. Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P Re: Scenario from Alyssa Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Much less a lawyer. Â But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series soon. -Wes Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Much less a lawyer. Â But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series soon. -Wes Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Wes, take a look at the Audi A8. It totally blew me away at the car show. GG Re: Scenario from Alyssa Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series soon. -Wes Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 True, but there's something about the Beemer that just screams " lawyer. " Â ;-) -Wes Wes, take a look at the Audi A8. It totally blew me away at the car show. GG Re: Scenario from Alyssa Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series soon. -Wes Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Hee hee. You're right. GG Re: Scenario from Alyssa Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series soon. -Wes Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > Who is the President? > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > > > Coug. > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Isn't there a forum for lawyers which entirely discussing the types of cars you'll buy with your client's money? Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Hee hee. You're right. > > GG > > Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > soon. > > -Wes > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > CPR Instructor > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 BURN... Score one for the Young Buck LOL J/K -Chris > Isn't there a forum for lawyers which entirely discussing the types of cars you'll buy with your client's money? > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > CPR Instructor > > > > > >> Hee hee. You're right. >> >> GG >> >> Re: Scenario from Alyssa >> >> Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series >> soon. >> >> -Wes >> >> >> >> Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... >> >> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B >> CPR Instructor >> >> >> >> >>> Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and >> lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I >> have not read anything about what her mental status is. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>>> You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And >> most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the >> girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after >> that, you could be charged with assault. >>>> >>>> Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our >> EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . >>>> >>>> ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... >>>> >>>> Who is the President? >>>> >>>> What year is it?.....etc.... >>>> >>>> CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. >>>> >>>> I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know >> what day it is!! :) >>>> >>>> Coug. >>>> >>>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, >>>> You can keep the " CHANGE. " >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 BURN... Score one for the Young Buck LOL J/K -Chris > Isn't there a forum for lawyers which entirely discussing the types of cars you'll buy with your client's money? > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > CPR Instructor > > > > > >> Hee hee. You're right. >> >> GG >> >> Re: Scenario from Alyssa >> >> Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series >> soon. >> >> -Wes >> >> >> >> Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... >> >> Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B >> CPR Instructor >> >> >> >> >>> Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and >> lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I >> have not read anything about what her mental status is. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>>> You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And >> most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the >> girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after >> that, you could be charged with assault. >>>> >>>> Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our >> EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . >>>> >>>> ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... >>>> >>>> Who is the President? >>>> >>>> What year is it?.....etc.... >>>> >>>> CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. >>>> >>>> I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know >> what day it is!! :) >>>> >>>> Coug. >>>> >>>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, >>>> You can keep the " CHANGE. " >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yes, but it's a secret list. I can't tell you what it is or I would have to kill you. GG Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > soon. > > -Wes > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > CPR Instructor > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yes, but it's a secret list. I can't tell you what it is or I would have to kill you. GG Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > soon. > > -Wes > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > CPR Instructor > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Ah, so you make comments on other lists and what an attorney might say is a threat to cover up for the very existence of such a thread? Clever, clever... No wonder your car is so shiny! But alas you've still missed my mystery diagnosis... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Yes, but it's a secret list. I can't tell you what it is or I would have to kill you. > > GG > > Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > > soon. > > > > -Wes > > > > > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > CPR Instructor > > > > > > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student > and > > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And > I > > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, > And > > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > > > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > > > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Ah, so you make comments on other lists and what an attorney might say is a threat to cover up for the very existence of such a thread? Clever, clever... No wonder your car is so shiny! But alas you've still missed my mystery diagnosis... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Yes, but it's a secret list. I can't tell you what it is or I would have to kill you. > > GG > > Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > > soon. > > > > -Wes > > > > > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > CPR Instructor > > > > > > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student > and > > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And > I > > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, > And > > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > > > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > > > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 ....Though, attorney's fees was a very good guess, as it can cause a person to go temporarily insane, clutch at their chest, and have problems breathing... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Yes, but it's a secret list. I can't tell you what it is or I would have to kill you. > > GG > > Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > > soon. > > > > -Wes > > > > > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > CPR Instructor > > > > > > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student > and > > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And > I > > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, > And > > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > > > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > > > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 ....Though, attorney's fees was a very good guess, as it can cause a person to go temporarily insane, clutch at their chest, and have problems breathing... Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > Yes, but it's a secret list. I can't tell you what it is or I would have to kill you. > > GG > > Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > > soon. > > > > -Wes > > > > > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > CPR Instructor > > > > > > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student > and > > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And > I > > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, > And > > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > > > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > > > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm cowed now. I am going to shut up and let the others weigh in. GG Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > > soon. > > > > -Wes > > > > > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > CPR Instructor > > > > > > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student > and > > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And > I > > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, > And > > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > > > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > > > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm cowed now. I am going to shut up and let the others weigh in. GG Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > > > Much less a lawyer. But keep up the legal myths, I'm wanting a BMW 6-series > > soon. > > > > -Wes > > > > > > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > CPR Instructor > > > > > > > > > > > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student > and > > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And > I > > have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, > And > > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > > > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > > that, you could be charged with assault. > > > > > > > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > > > > > > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > > > > > > > Who is the President? > > > > > > > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > > > > > > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > > > > > > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > > > what day it is!! :) > > > > > > > > Coug. > > > > > > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > > > > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Thank God I thought my whole career we wrong … well at least it's not on this point. Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI Typed by my fingers on my iPhone. Please excuse any typos. (Cell) LNMolino@... > Well, the lawyer doesn't. Being a student and living with her parents has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not she's an adult for consent/refusal. In Texas, as in most of the other states, 18 is the age of consent/refusal. So she can refuse regardless of what her parents say, assuming that she has the present mental capacity to refuse. That's another matter. One must determine present mental capacity before dealing with the issue of refusal. > > > Gene Gandy, JD, LP, NREMT-P > > > > > > > > Re: Scenario from Alyssa > > > Hmmm... I wonder if a doctor would agree with you... > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > CPR Instructor > > > > > >> Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and > lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I > have not read anything about what her mental status is. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And > most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the > girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after > that, you could be charged with assault. >>> >>> Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our > EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . >>> >>> ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... >>> >>> Who is the President? >>> >>> What year is it?.....etc.... >>> >>> CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. >>> >>> I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know > what day it is!! :) >>> >>> Coug. >>> >>> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, >>> You can keep the " CHANGE. " >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Say what? Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI Typed by my fingers on my iPhone. Please excuse any typos. (Cell) LNMolino@... > Just because she is 18 does not make her an adult. She is still a student and lives with her parents. She cannot refuse if the parents want her treated. And I have not read anything about what her mental status is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. >> >> Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . >> >> ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... >> >> Who is the President? >> >> What year is it?.....etc.... >> >> CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. >> >> I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) >> >> Coug. >> >> I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, >> You can keep the " CHANGE. " >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 As far as I know, her current living arrangements should not make a difference. However, you do bring a good point about mental status. But I think that would have to be declared by a court, if her civil liberties are to be taken away. I would think. Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > You guys are all missing the basics. You are skipping to the diagnosis, And most of you are coming up with WONDERFUL ideas of treatment. But remember. the girl is 18 years old, and refusing to be treated. If you even TOUCH her after that, you could be charged with assault. > > Coming up with what could be wrong, is admirable, but don't let go of our EMT basic training. She is 18 and said " Go Away " . > > ANY patient then can pass a basic mental exam.... > > Who is the President? > > What year is it?.....etc.... > > CANNOT be treated, if they refuse, and they are conscious. > > I hate the " what day is it? questions, cause sometimes " I " don't even know what day it is!! :) > > Coug. > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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