Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 The other side of the argument is this -- think of a time when you were overwhelmed by grief. You weren't thinking like you normally do. You weren't thinking " right " . Better yet... think of that 72-hour shift you worked where you could barely take your pants off to get in bed at the end of it. Again, you weren't thinking " right " . But when you get someone with a long-term psychiatric illness, the question becomes what baseline we're aiming at when we initiate therapy to bring them back to the world. (Again the collective medical " we " .) And I agree that those lines can get ethically blurry. Now, I understand that ethically blurry and legally blurry are two separate things, and I think it really is a case-by-case basis and is very rarely is it actually a problem, but that's my 2 cents. Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B CPR Instructor > brought up a good point about PD calling for psych patients. Who > is a patient? - Someone who presents with a complaint or obvious illness > or injury. If they are purely psych , meaning no attempt to harm > themselves by overdose or intentional injury, - PD transports if > warranted. For PD to get involved they usually must present a danger to > themselves or others. They can still detain them if they want, but they > would need a reason for doing it (I'm not law enforcement). > > Just because they have a mental illness, doesn't mean they can't have > the present mental capacity to make decisions for their care. In order > to deem someone lacking in mental competency you would have to have a > court order. Many people with mental illness walk around all day with > limited or no impairment. > > Steve > > This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual (s) to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented > are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of > The City of Azle or its policies. If you have received this e-mail > message in error, please phone Steve Lemming (817)444-7108. Please also > destroy and delete the message from your computer. > > For more information on The City of Azle, visit our web site at: > http://www.cityofazle.org http://www.cityofazle.org> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 And when they sign up on F/B....they usually choose their " relationship " status as..... " Complicated " Oh no......I didnt really say that, did I? I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " Subject: Re: Psych Calls To: texasems-l Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 7:03 PM Â A person who has been legally declared incompent/insane may at any given time possess the requisite present mental capacity to refuse. For example, the schizophrenic who is medication compliant and the disease is under control. Still under the court's order and has not been legally restored to sanity but practically is. GG Psych Calls brought up a good point about PD calling for psych patients. Who is a patient? - Someone who presents with a complaint or obvious illness or injury. If they are purely psych , meaning no attempt to harm themselves by overdose or intentional injury, - PD transports if warranted. For PD to get involved they usually must present a danger to themselves or others. They can still detain them if they want, but they would need a reason for doing it (I'm not law enforcement). Just because they have a mental illness, doesn't mean they can't have the present mental capacity to make decisions for their care. In order to deem someone lacking in mental competency you would have to have a court order. Many people with mental illness walk around all day with limited or no impairment. Steve This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual (s) to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The City of Azle or its policies. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please phone Steve Lemming (817)444-7108. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. For more information on The City of Azle, visit our web site at: http://www.cityofazle.org http://www.cityofazle.org> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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