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-Lou,

Yes, the device will set off the alarms at the airport. I tell them

before I go through it, the alarm goes off and they put me off to

the side to be searched with the wand. I show them where it is for

them to verify but they always wand the rest of my body also. It's

a little bit of an inconvenience but it doesn't take that much time

and it makes me feel better about security. Just make sure that you

allow more time for the wand process. So far it hasn't added

anymore than 5 -10 minutes max.

Fred

Gross, C2K 1/21/04

> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of

you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will

my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once

set

> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

> embarassment!!

>

> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work

alongside

> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

>

> luv sarah-lou xxxxxxxx

>

> ps the bloke who asked where all the unsatisfied customers

> were........after continual pain in a hip the BHR gives so much

> freedom and thats maybe why so may people on here are so

> upbeat............there is another theory that those who arent

happy

> just cant get up and move over to the computer to log on.......!

> only joking honest. xx

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Hi, -Lou

I tried to put a bit of humor into the question...but only because I

WANT to believe my resurf -- if/when I get it -- will go as well and

work as well as all I've read here. But I want to try to keep my

hopes and expectations grounded as close reality as possible.

As for your closing note. Truth is, there are days that... if my

desk chair didn't have wheels, I might not get to the computer.

Regards,

Alan (aka " the bloke " )

> luv sarah-lou xxxxxxxx

>

> ps the bloke who asked where all the unsatisfied customers

> were........after continual pain in a hip the BHR gives so much

> freedom and thats maybe why so may people on here are so

> upbeat............there is another theory that those who arent

happy

> just cant get up and move over to the computer to log on.......!

> only joking honest. xx

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Hi -Lou

IT didn't set off Gatwick but did at Palma (Mallorca/Majorca) much to my

surprise. The security lady was not English speaking and it took someone

else to explain in Spanish after I had been through the screening 3 times,

emptied my pockets and turned them inside out.......... I was half expecting

a strip search as the next step. Suggest you get a translation that you

have metal hip joints just to be on the safe side (: it would be useful

to have translations in languages that are commonly encountered on the

site - perhaps our multi language speakers could advise).

Rog BHR 2 hips 2001 Treacy

very stupid question from dumb blonde!

> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

> embarassment!!

>

> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work alongside

> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

>

> luv sarah-lou xxxxxxxx

>

> ps the bloke who asked where all the unsatisfied customers

> were........after continual pain in a hip the BHR gives so much

> freedom and thats maybe why so may people on here are so

> upbeat............there is another theory that those who arent happy

> just cant get up and move over to the computer to log on.......!

> only joking honest. xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi -lou

My bhr makes them go off to.

The London Gatwick outgoing used to be ok but in the last 18 months it's

set them off!

lbhr 04 09 01 kent uk

Dob 20 08 1972

Re: very stupid question from dumb blonde!

-Lou,

Yes, the device will set off the alarms at the airport. I tell them

before I go through it, the alarm goes off and they put me off to

the side to be searched with the wand. I show them where it is for

them to verify but they always wand the rest of my body also. It's

a little bit of an inconvenience but it doesn't take that much time

and it makes me feel better about security. Just make sure that you

allow more time for the wand process. So far it hasn't added

anymore than 5 -10 minutes max.

Fred

Gross, C2K 1/21/04

> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of

you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will

my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once

set

> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

> embarassment!!

>

> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work

alongside

> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

>

> luv sarah-lou xxxxxxxx

>

> ps the bloke who asked where all the unsatisfied customers

> were........after continual pain in a hip the BHR gives so much

> freedom and thats maybe why so may people on here are so

> upbeat............there is another theory that those who arent

happy

> just cant get up and move over to the computer to log on.......!

> only joking honest. xx

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I’ll let you in on a trick (it worked for me and you may avoid the need to

explain or translate your explanation).

I leave a single coin in one of my trouser pockets (near my operated hip) when I

go through the metal detector gate. Since I have emptied all my other pockets

and put all metal items in a tray that goes through the x-ray machine, the guard

is usually happy when the wand locks on to the single coin and stops the search

there and then.

Regards

Dan

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From: roger frost

Sent: 09 May 2004 20:02

To: surfacehippy

Subject: Re: very stupid question from dumb blonde!

Hi -Lou

IT didn't set off Gatwick but did at Palma (Mallorca/Majorca) much to my

surprise. The security lady was not English speaking and it took someone

else to explain in Spanish after I had been through the screening 3 times,

emptied my pockets and turned them inside out.......... I was half expecting

a strip search as the next step. Suggest you get a translation that you

have metal hip joints just to be on the safe side (: it would be useful

to have translations in languages that are commonly encountered on the

site - perhaps our multi language speakers could advise).

Rog BHR 2 hips 2001 Treacy

very stupid question from dumb blonde!

> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

> embarassment!!

>

> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work alongside

> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

>

> luv sarah-lou xxxxxxxx

>

> ps the bloke who asked where all the unsatisfied customers

> were........after continual pain in a hip the BHR gives so much

> freedom and thats maybe why so may people on here are so

> upbeat............there is another theory that those who arent happy

> just cant get up and move over to the computer to log on.......!

> only joking honest. xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

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At 05:11 PM 5/9/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

>surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

>bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

>off some alarms in comet electrical store...

Plan on it happening. Mine set off the alarms over 50% of the time. I

just explain that I have two metal hips, get a special screening that

doesn't take too long, and off I go.

Cindy C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

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Hi - Lou,

Just read your message and felt like responding. As with a few other

people, i fly a lot. I set off about 80% of the airport metal

detectors. The used to be a special card to say that you have a

prosthesis, however i would immagine that with the new wave of

International Terrorism, that doesn't really get recognised any

more....

ie: " No officer, your machine beeps because of my hip

resurfacing.... here , look at my card..... It's not really an AK-

47 Assault rifle... honest!!!! " hehe

Another thing is that personally, i feel that the way things are

going with air travel these days, (plus the fact that i have a big

mouth).... when the metal detectors don't beep with my hip.... i

to take full enjoyment from mentioning to the security people , that

i have a hip prosthesis almost the size of a High Explosive hand

grenade, and if their machine is not picking it up..... it needs

tweaking a little..... " hehehehehe

PS... your crack about people with hip problems not being able to

get up and use the computer...... i always say the opposite......

many Resurfacing recipients are just so busy getting on with their

normal lives.... that they don't have enough time to be sat on the

internet..hehehe

good luck,

Richie

Right side BHR with 56mm Dysplacia cup. Koen de Smet, Belgium, Nov

2001. Personal resurfacing site

http://www.thunderballhip.50megs.com

> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of

you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will

my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once

set

> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

> embarassment!!

>

> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work

alongside

> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

>

> luv sarah-lou xxxxxxxx

>

> ps the bloke who asked where all the unsatisfied customers

> were........after continual pain in a hip the BHR gives so much

> freedom and thats maybe why so may people on here are so

> upbeat............there is another theory that those who arent

happy

> just cant get up and move over to the computer to log on.......!

> only joking honest. xx

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> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of

you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will

my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms,

I just returned home from a trip to Florida - both flying out and

returning home, I set off the metal detectors, which I had certainly

anticipated. In both cases, after being carefully " wanded " by a

female attendant - it was NOT my hip that set off the alarm, but my

underwire bra!!!!

Deb C+ 5-2-02 Dr Mont

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Just a technical thought - I find that I set off about 95% of airport

alarms - and I do a lot of travelling - but seldom set off the wand

that some airports use to check you. I wonder whether the

technologies used are different. Our implants, being non-ferrous,

would not set off anything looking for ferrous metals. I guess bra

wires are ferrous alloys to give strength - but then they'd get rusty

in the wash wouldn't they?

LBHR 2002.

> I just returned home from a trip to Florida - both flying out and

> returning home, I set off the metal detectors, which I had

certainly

> anticipated. In both cases, after being carefully " wanded " by a

> female attendant - it was NOT my hip that set off the alarm, but my

> underwire bra!!!!

>

> Deb C+ 5-2-02 Dr Mont

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Just a technical thought - I find that I set off about 95% of airport

alarms - and I do a lot of travelling - but seldom set off the wand

that some airports use to check you. I wonder whether the

technologies used are different. Our implants, being non-ferrous,

would not set off anything looking for ferrous metals. I guess bra

wires are ferrous alloys to give strength - but then they'd get rusty

in the wash wouldn't they?

LBHR 2002.

> I just returned home from a trip to Florida - both flying out and

> returning home, I set off the metal detectors, which I had

certainly

> anticipated. In both cases, after being carefully " wanded " by a

> female attendant - it was NOT my hip that set off the alarm, but my

> underwire bra!!!!

>

> Deb C+ 5-2-02 Dr Mont

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Just a technical thought - I find that I set off about 95% of airport

alarms - and I do a lot of travelling - but seldom set off the wand

that some airports use to check you. I wonder whether the

technologies used are different. Our implants, being non-ferrous,

would not set off anything looking for ferrous metals. I guess bra

wires are ferrous alloys to give strength - but then they'd get rusty

in the wash wouldn't they?

LBHR 2002.

> I just returned home from a trip to Florida - both flying out and

> returning home, I set off the metal detectors, which I had

certainly

> anticipated. In both cases, after being carefully " wanded " by a

> female attendant - it was NOT my hip that set off the alarm, but my

> underwire bra!!!!

>

> Deb C+ 5-2-02 Dr Mont

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This doesn't work, Jeff. I've offered to do it and been met with stony

stares, bordering on " Call the real security to get this nut out of here. "

Des

In a message dated 5/11/2004 12:32:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jjg@... writes:

Of course, you could just " moon " the security folks to

prove the point...

(running for cover)

Jeff

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Yes, you will set off alarms. Here is some advice if you want to get

through the checkpoints quickly: The wands they use to scan you after you

go through the main walkthrough scanner are more sensitive than the walk

through one. Remove every last bit of metal, watches, jewlery, etc. or

don't wear anything with metal on your traveling days. Even the little tags

of metal on your jeans, and the zipper will get a beep from the wand. Every

place it beeps, they have to pat you down. This takes time. If the only

place you beep is at your hip, a quick pat down in that area along with your

explanation will get you through quickly. Don't bother bringing xrays or

doctors notes. You won't need them. Those could be easily forged anyway so

they won't get you through any quicker.

June RBHR De Smet 8/27/03

>

> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

> embarassment!!

>

> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work alongside

> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

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Yes, you will set off alarms. Here is some advice if you want to get

through the checkpoints quickly: The wands they use to scan you after you

go through the main walkthrough scanner are more sensitive than the walk

through one. Remove every last bit of metal, watches, jewlery, etc. or

don't wear anything with metal on your traveling days. Even the little tags

of metal on your jeans, and the zipper will get a beep from the wand. Every

place it beeps, they have to pat you down. This takes time. If the only

place you beep is at your hip, a quick pat down in that area along with your

explanation will get you through quickly. Don't bother bringing xrays or

doctors notes. You won't need them. Those could be easily forged anyway so

they won't get you through any quicker.

June RBHR De Smet 8/27/03

>

> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

> embarassment!!

>

> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work alongside

> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

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Yes, you will set off alarms. Here is some advice if you want to get

through the checkpoints quickly: The wands they use to scan you after you

go through the main walkthrough scanner are more sensitive than the walk

through one. Remove every last bit of metal, watches, jewlery, etc. or

don't wear anything with metal on your traveling days. Even the little tags

of metal on your jeans, and the zipper will get a beep from the wand. Every

place it beeps, they have to pat you down. This takes time. If the only

place you beep is at your hip, a quick pat down in that area along with your

explanation will get you through quickly. Don't bother bringing xrays or

doctors notes. You won't need them. Those could be easily forged anyway so

they won't get you through any quicker.

June RBHR De Smet 8/27/03

>

> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

> embarassment!!

>

> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work alongside

> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

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Yip this is good. Of course, you could just " moon " the security folks to

prove the point...

(running for cover)

Jeff

rBHR Aug. 1, 2001

Mr. McMinn

>Yes, you will set off alarms. Here is some advice if you want to get

>through the checkpoints quickly: The wands they use to scan you after you

>go through the main walkthrough scanner are more sensitive than the walk

>through one. Remove every last bit of metal, watches, jewlery, etc. or

>don't wear anything with metal on your traveling days. Even the little

tags

>of metal on your jeans, and the zipper will get a beep from the wand.

Every

>place it beeps, they have to pat you down. This takes time. If the only

>place you beep is at your hip, a quick pat down in that area along with

your

>explanation will get you through quickly. Don't bother bringing xrays or

>doctors notes. You won't need them. Those could be easily forged anyway

so

>they won't get you through any quicker.

>

>June RBHR De Smet 8/27/03

>

>>

>> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

>> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

>> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

>> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

>> embarassment!!

>>

>> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work alongside

>> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

>

>

>

>

>

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Yip this is good. Of course, you could just " moon " the security folks to

prove the point...

(running for cover)

Jeff

rBHR Aug. 1, 2001

Mr. McMinn

>Yes, you will set off alarms. Here is some advice if you want to get

>through the checkpoints quickly: The wands they use to scan you after you

>go through the main walkthrough scanner are more sensitive than the walk

>through one. Remove every last bit of metal, watches, jewlery, etc. or

>don't wear anything with metal on your traveling days. Even the little

tags

>of metal on your jeans, and the zipper will get a beep from the wand.

Every

>place it beeps, they have to pat you down. This takes time. If the only

>place you beep is at your hip, a quick pat down in that area along with

your

>explanation will get you through quickly. Don't bother bringing xrays or

>doctors notes. You won't need them. Those could be easily forged anyway

so

>they won't get you through any quicker.

>

>June RBHR De Smet 8/27/03

>

>>

>> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

>> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

>> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

>> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

>> embarassment!!

>>

>> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work alongside

>> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

>

>

>

>

>

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Yip this is good. Of course, you could just " moon " the security folks to

prove the point...

(running for cover)

Jeff

rBHR Aug. 1, 2001

Mr. McMinn

>Yes, you will set off alarms. Here is some advice if you want to get

>through the checkpoints quickly: The wands they use to scan you after you

>go through the main walkthrough scanner are more sensitive than the walk

>through one. Remove every last bit of metal, watches, jewlery, etc. or

>don't wear anything with metal on your traveling days. Even the little

tags

>of metal on your jeans, and the zipper will get a beep from the wand.

Every

>place it beeps, they have to pat you down. This takes time. If the only

>place you beep is at your hip, a quick pat down in that area along with

your

>explanation will get you through quickly. Don't bother bringing xrays or

>doctors notes. You won't need them. Those could be easily forged anyway

so

>they won't get you through any quicker.

>

>June RBHR De Smet 8/27/03

>

>>

>> i know this sounds so ridiculous especially considering a lot of you

>> surface hippies fly about having surgery in belgium etc. but will my

>> bhr set off aqirport alarms, i am going on holiday and i did once set

>> off some alarms in comet electrical store......much to my mothers

>> embarassment!!

>>

>> i know it sounds stupid but although i am a nurse and work alongside

>> my OS i didnt want him to think i was stupid! :)

>

>

>

>

>

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> Just a technical thought - I find that I set off about 95% of airport

> alarms - and I do a lot of travelling - but seldom set off the wand

> that some airports use to check you. I wonder whether the

> technologies used are different. Our implants, being non-ferrous,

> would not set off anything looking for ferrous metals.

There are many substances which exhibit " ferromagnetism " , the strong

response to magnetic fields typically associated with iron. One of

these substances is cobalt. These implants are roughly 2/3 cobalt, and

any metal detector that isn't set off by them is seriously out of whack.

Steve (bilateral C+ 4/20/04, Amstutz)

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Hi,

Puzzled that I could set off about 75% of the ones I went through I asked a

friendly looking guard one day and he reckoned it was the way one walked

through them........... which sort of makes mockery of the whole

thing......... I also asked my surgeon and he said he has puzzled about it a

bit because patients all report that they don't set them all off....... but

he hasn't gotten any answers out of anyone either............

The trouble being that one 'expects' to set it off and then when I don't I

get confused and probably start looking like some guilty terrorist.........

I begin to wonder whether it is more deterrant than anything else after a

few of these episodes looking like hit and miss........ I mean if I can walk

through a door with a pound of metal in me it doesn't say any terrorist

couldn't work that out.............

Edith LBHR 8/02

> Just a technical thought - I find that I set off about 95% of airport

> alarms - and I do a lot of travelling - but seldom set off the wand

> that some airports use to check you. I wonder whether the

> technologies used are different. Our implants, being non-ferrous,

> would not set off anything looking for ferrous metals. I guess bra

> wires are ferrous alloys to give strength - but then they'd get rusty

> in the wash wouldn't they?

> LBHR 2002.

>

>

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Hi Edith,

Perhaps we should conduct an impromptu survey of different methods of

walking through - the crab, the giraffe, on all fours, etc, and see

what fails to set them off. I find it's becoming something of a

challenge to get them to fail to detect it!

Rgds

> Hi,

>

> Puzzled that I could set off about 75% of the ones I went through I

asked a

> friendly looking guard one day and he reckoned it was the way one

walked

> through them........... which sort of makes mockery of the whole

> thing......... I also asked my surgeon and he said he has puzzled

about it a

> bit because patients all report that they don't set them all

off....... but

> he hasn't gotten any answers out of anyone either............

>

> The trouble being that one 'expects' to set it off and then when I

don't I

> get confused and probably start looking like some guilty

terrorist.........

> I begin to wonder whether it is more deterrant than anything else

after a

> few of these episodes looking like hit and miss........ I mean if I

can walk

> through a door with a pound of metal in me it doesn't say any

terrorist

> couldn't work that out.............

>

> Edith LBHR 8/02

>

> > Just a technical thought - I find that I set off about 95% of

airport

> > alarms - and I do a lot of travelling - but seldom set off the

wand

> > that some airports use to check you. I wonder whether the

> > technologies used are different. Our implants, being non-ferrous,

> > would not set off anything looking for ferrous metals. I guess

bra

> > wires are ferrous alloys to give strength - but then they'd get

rusty

> > in the wash wouldn't they?

> > LBHR 2002.

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Edith,

Perhaps we should conduct an impromptu survey of different methods of

walking through - the crab, the giraffe, on all fours, etc, and see

what fails to set them off. I find it's becoming something of a

challenge to get them to fail to detect it!

Rgds

> Hi,

>

> Puzzled that I could set off about 75% of the ones I went through I

asked a

> friendly looking guard one day and he reckoned it was the way one

walked

> through them........... which sort of makes mockery of the whole

> thing......... I also asked my surgeon and he said he has puzzled

about it a

> bit because patients all report that they don't set them all

off....... but

> he hasn't gotten any answers out of anyone either............

>

> The trouble being that one 'expects' to set it off and then when I

don't I

> get confused and probably start looking like some guilty

terrorist.........

> I begin to wonder whether it is more deterrant than anything else

after a

> few of these episodes looking like hit and miss........ I mean if I

can walk

> through a door with a pound of metal in me it doesn't say any

terrorist

> couldn't work that out.............

>

> Edith LBHR 8/02

>

> > Just a technical thought - I find that I set off about 95% of

airport

> > alarms - and I do a lot of travelling - but seldom set off the

wand

> > that some airports use to check you. I wonder whether the

> > technologies used are different. Our implants, being non-ferrous,

> > would not set off anything looking for ferrous metals. I guess

bra

> > wires are ferrous alloys to give strength - but then they'd get

rusty

> > in the wash wouldn't they?

> > LBHR 2002.

> >

> >

> >

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Hi,

Well had a good chuckle here with your reply............ and it is a pity

the world is so serious now or we could try this.........sadly we would

probably get hauled off for not taking the whole process seriously.........

but after one has wandered through a half dozen of these and not set them

off one can only but wonder how useful they are.........

Edith

> Perhaps we should conduct an impromptu survey of different methods of

> walking through - the crab, the giraffe, on all fours, etc, and see

> what fails to set them off. I find it's becoming something of a

> challenge to get them to fail to detect it!

> Rgds

>

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