Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. GG PASG I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Let's see if any of those ideas come back. I figure it's just a matter of time... Wes Sent from my iPad > I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. > > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > > > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > > To: texasems-l > > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > > > GG > > > > PASG > > > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Let's see if any of those ideas come back. I figure it's just a matter of time... Wes Sent from my iPad > I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. > > Wes Ogilvie > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > > > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > > To: texasems-l > > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > > > GG > > > > PASG > > > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Wes... most may not even know what PASG or MAST are.... half ring, Kansas board,.. high top suburban... Ask them if the know what ditto means... then ask if the know what a ditto machine was... what a smell... wait... am I getting old? Lou don't answer that.... Les NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF Senior Safety Coordinator / Emergency Response Chief Westlake Chemical P.O. Box 228 36045 LA 30 Geismar, LA 70734-0228 e-Mail: lpowell@... Telephone: Fax: Cell: 225.439-6552 http://www.texasemsat.org/> " Next to creating a life, the finest thing a man can do is save one. " - Abraham Lincoln ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:12 To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@... > wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:16, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > Let's see if any of those ideas come back. Come back? In California, they never went away! It's sad, really. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Waterwings. No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. GG -----Original Message----- To: texasems-l (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Start a line with D5W and transport as soon as possible. And sadly, it'd seem that much of the southwest (California, Nevada, and Arizona) is needing to progress in EMS. Wes Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:20, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: > On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:16, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > > > Let's see if any of those ideas come back. > > Come back? In California, they never went away! It's sad, really. > > Rob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Mimeographs ah the ways we had fun back then. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. In a message dated 11/30/2010 2:20:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, lpowell@... writes: Wes... most may not even know what PASG or MAST are.... half ring, Kansas board,.. high top suburban... Ask them if the know what ditto means... then ask if the know what a ditto machine was... what a smell... wait... am I getting old? Lou don't answer that.... Les NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF Senior Safety Coordinator / Emergency Response Chief Westlake Chemical P.O. Box 228 36045 LA 30 Geismar, LA 70734-0228 e-Mail: lpowell@... Telephone: Fax: Cell: 225.439-6552 http://www.texasemsat.org/> " Next to creating a life, the finest thing a man can do is save one. " - Abraham Lincoln ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:12 To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@... > wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 And do you remember what not to do? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of shannon beltran Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:31 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG , I remember watching those, the trunk monkey doc and stupid people on youtube in class. ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:13:42 PM Subject: RE: PASG I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l >[mailto:texasems-l ] On >Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Where did you find a study in favor of using PASG/MAST pants. I would like to read it. Joby Berkley  ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 3:57:37 PM Subject: RE: PASG  And do you remember what not to do? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of shannon beltran Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:31 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG , I remember watching those, the trunk monkey doc and stupid people on youtube in class. ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:13:42 PM Subject: RE: PASG I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: >texasems-l > >[mailto:texasems-l ] > On >Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: >texasems-l > > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Where did you find a study in favor of using PASG/MAST pants. I would like to read it. Joby Berkley  ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 3:57:37 PM Subject: RE: PASG  And do you remember what not to do? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of shannon beltran Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:31 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG , I remember watching those, the trunk monkey doc and stupid people on youtube in class. ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:13:42 PM Subject: RE: PASG I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: >texasems-l > >[mailto:texasems-l ] > On >Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: >texasems-l > > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 >> It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 16:23, " Grayson " Grayson902@...> said: > Hey, I resemble that! To be fair, I was originally going to say New Jersey, but we've heard enough from Lou this week. Back in the mid 80s, we were doing the original round of PHTLS Instructor courses in New Orleans, with Dr. McSwain. After a week, I couldn't believe how archaic things seemed there. But yeah, that was a long time ago and I do know that they have made great strides since then, with Acadian leading the pack. And they are decades ahead of Southern California, where everything is still very much painting by the numbers. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Rob, I am like a nightmare from your childhood, I recur at the least desirable times and shake many to their core As far as my home state you are right in that they are archaic yet some of the best BLS and ALS folks do work their, more than a few I'd trust my love ones too over some I've seen elsewhere all over the US and the world. The System in NJ needs work for sure but there are pockets of gems and gems in the rough whose hands are tied by the aforementioned System. EMS not only eats its young (and old) but we often toss babies out with bath water. No one System has any exclusivity to that sadly. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. In a message dated 11/30/2010 4:35:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, rob.davis@... writes: >> It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 16:23, " Grayson " Grayson902@...> said: > Hey, I resemble that! To be fair, I was originally going to say New Jersey, but we've heard enough from Lou this week. Back in the mid 80s, we were doing the original round of PHTLS Instructor courses in New Orleans, with Dr. McSwain. After a week, I couldn't believe how archaic things seemed there. But yeah, that was a long time ago and I do know that they have made great strides since then, with Acadian leading the pack. And they are decades ahead of Southern California, where everything is still very much painting by the numbers. Rob ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Rob, I am like a nightmare from your childhood, I recur at the least desirable times and shake many to their core As far as my home state you are right in that they are archaic yet some of the best BLS and ALS folks do work their, more than a few I'd trust my love ones too over some I've seen elsewhere all over the US and the world. The System in NJ needs work for sure but there are pockets of gems and gems in the rough whose hands are tied by the aforementioned System. EMS not only eats its young (and old) but we often toss babies out with bath water. No one System has any exclusivity to that sadly. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. In a message dated 11/30/2010 4:35:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, rob.davis@... writes: >> It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 16:23, " Grayson " Grayson902@...> said: > Hey, I resemble that! To be fair, I was originally going to say New Jersey, but we've heard enough from Lou this week. Back in the mid 80s, we were doing the original round of PHTLS Instructor courses in New Orleans, with Dr. McSwain. After a week, I couldn't believe how archaic things seemed there. But yeah, that was a long time ago and I do know that they have made great strides since then, with Acadian leading the pack. And they are decades ahead of Southern California, where everything is still very much painting by the numbers. Rob ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Rob, I am like a nightmare from your childhood, I recur at the least desirable times and shake many to their core As far as my home state you are right in that they are archaic yet some of the best BLS and ALS folks do work their, more than a few I'd trust my love ones too over some I've seen elsewhere all over the US and the world. The System in NJ needs work for sure but there are pockets of gems and gems in the rough whose hands are tied by the aforementioned System. EMS not only eats its young (and old) but we often toss babies out with bath water. No one System has any exclusivity to that sadly. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (Office) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. In a message dated 11/30/2010 4:35:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, rob.davis@... writes: >> It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 16:23, " Grayson " Grayson902@...> said: > Hey, I resemble that! To be fair, I was originally going to say New Jersey, but we've heard enough from Lou this week. Back in the mid 80s, we were doing the original round of PHTLS Instructor courses in New Orleans, with Dr. McSwain. After a week, I couldn't believe how archaic things seemed there. But yeah, that was a long time ago and I do know that they have made great strides since then, with Acadian leading the pack. And they are decades ahead of Southern California, where everything is still very much painting by the numbers. Rob ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 And they're alive and well here in AZ, which got everything it does in EMS from California. Only they now have videocameras in the back of the ambulances so the trauma surgeons who have nothing to do can watch what happens in the truck. Seriously. They put videocameras in the Tucson trucks three years ago so the trauma surgeons could see the patients as they were being transported. This was the brainchild of one of the docs at UMC, who is a KNOWN technogeek. They spent $750,000 on this crap, and nobody ever uses it. I guess those trauma surgeons just just have found something else to do besides sitting in the telemetry room watching patients being transported. And the Fire Department Union wasn't too keen on the idea anyway. So the equipment sits there, contaminated, waiting............... GG Re: PASG On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:16, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > Let's see if any of those ideas come back. Come back? In California, they never went away! It's sad, really. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 And they're alive and well here in AZ, which got everything it does in EMS from California. Only they now have videocameras in the back of the ambulances so the trauma surgeons who have nothing to do can watch what happens in the truck. Seriously. They put videocameras in the Tucson trucks three years ago so the trauma surgeons could see the patients as they were being transported. This was the brainchild of one of the docs at UMC, who is a KNOWN technogeek. They spent $750,000 on this crap, and nobody ever uses it. I guess those trauma surgeons just just have found something else to do besides sitting in the telemetry room watching patients being transported. And the Fire Department Union wasn't too keen on the idea anyway. So the equipment sits there, contaminated, waiting............... GG Re: PASG On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:16, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > Let's see if any of those ideas come back. Come back? In California, they never went away! It's sad, really. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 And they're alive and well here in AZ, which got everything it does in EMS from California. Only they now have videocameras in the back of the ambulances so the trauma surgeons who have nothing to do can watch what happens in the truck. Seriously. They put videocameras in the Tucson trucks three years ago so the trauma surgeons could see the patients as they were being transported. This was the brainchild of one of the docs at UMC, who is a KNOWN technogeek. They spent $750,000 on this crap, and nobody ever uses it. I guess those trauma surgeons just just have found something else to do besides sitting in the telemetry room watching patients being transported. And the Fire Department Union wasn't too keen on the idea anyway. So the equipment sits there, contaminated, waiting............... GG Re: PASG On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:16, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > Let's see if any of those ideas come back. Come back? In California, they never went away! It's sad, really. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Well, I'm trying to find my jaw screw. Durn. I need to put it in my car. Never know when you'll need one of those. Got to get that tongue out so they don't swaller it. Hell, run a 14 through it and make a hook and pull that sucker out. Don't never let yore patient swaller his tongue. That's some bad s** t. G PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Well, I'm trying to find my jaw screw. Durn. I need to put it in my car. Never know when you'll need one of those. Got to get that tongue out so they don't swaller it. Hell, run a 14 through it and make a hook and pull that sucker out. Don't never let yore patient swaller his tongue. That's some bad s** t. G PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Well, I'm trying to find my jaw screw. Durn. I need to put it in my car. Never know when you'll need one of those. Got to get that tongue out so they don't swaller it. Hell, run a 14 through it and make a hook and pull that sucker out. Don't never let yore patient swaller his tongue. That's some bad s** t. G PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 technically, Gene, the Hectograph was the flat plate, one sheet at a time version. By the time I got into school, they had developed the Ditto machine, which allowed a teacher to run off 30 copies in the matter of a couple of minutes, using roughly the same technology. ck In a message dated 12/01/10 00:31:44 Central Standard Time, wegandy1938@... writes: Lou, you're just a kid. Before the mimeograph was the Hectograph. That was the one with the purple pages and the fumes that would get you higher than 14 tons of marajaweenie. And when you got that purple stuff on your hands or clothes, it was there to stay. GG PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ***** Named to Fortune's 1000 list for 2010 ***** ***** Ranked in Industry Week's " U.S. 500 Largest Manufacturing Companies " 2010 list. ***** ***** Named to Forbes's " The Most Trustworthy Companies " 2010 List ***** * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Oh, in AZ, they don't need to progress. They're perfect. After all, they have the " Mother, May I? " system which insures optimum care. G Re: PASG Start a line with D5W and transport as soon as possible. And sadly, it'd seem that much of the southwest (California, Nevada, and Arizona) is needing to progress in EMS. Wes Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:20, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: > On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:16, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > > > Let's see if any of those ideas come back. > > Come back? In California, they never went away! It's sad, really. > > Rob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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