Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Oh, in AZ, they don't need to progress. They're perfect. After all, they have the " Mother, May I? " system which insures optimum care. G Re: PASG Start a line with D5W and transport as soon as possible. And sadly, it'd seem that much of the southwest (California, Nevada, and Arizona) is needing to progress in EMS. Wes Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:20, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: > On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:16, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > > > Let's see if any of those ideas come back. > > Come back? In California, they never went away! It's sad, really. > > Rob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 The CA, AZ, NV systems demonstrate the worst of all worlds in EMS. Add in DC and you've got the worst of the worst. Texas IS state of the art, for all its failures. It's so far ahead of AZ it's totally out of sight. AZ folks swoon when I explain how EMS works in Texas. Fire Chiefs run backwards like lobsters, afraid that somewhere, sometime, somebody in power will realize just how big a scam they have run on the population. And I use Fire Chiefs only because there are few non-fire based 911 services here in Moronizona. G Re: PASG On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:26, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > And sadly, it'd seem that much of the southwest (California, Nevada, and Arizona) > is needing to progress in EMS. I did my last refresher class at Loma in Southern California two years ago. Great school, with great instructors. Highly recommended. But man, the system itself is just horrible. I could not believe how clueless the majority of the medics in the class were, many with years of experience. Most of them's only interest in EMS was hoping to get on a fire truck somewhere, and nothing more. It was like going back in time to 1972. It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 The CA, AZ, NV systems demonstrate the worst of all worlds in EMS. Add in DC and you've got the worst of the worst. Texas IS state of the art, for all its failures. It's so far ahead of AZ it's totally out of sight. AZ folks swoon when I explain how EMS works in Texas. Fire Chiefs run backwards like lobsters, afraid that somewhere, sometime, somebody in power will realize just how big a scam they have run on the population. And I use Fire Chiefs only because there are few non-fire based 911 services here in Moronizona. G Re: PASG On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:26, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > And sadly, it'd seem that much of the southwest (California, Nevada, and Arizona) > is needing to progress in EMS. I did my last refresher class at Loma in Southern California two years ago. Great school, with great instructors. Highly recommended. But man, the system itself is just horrible. I could not believe how clueless the majority of the medics in the class were, many with years of experience. Most of them's only interest in EMS was hoping to get on a fire truck somewhere, and nothing more. It was like going back in time to 1972. It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 actually, it's limited by the EPA and NIOSH...although it can be used in the production of illicit drugs as well. ck In a message dated 12/01/10 12:35:57 Central Standard Time, rob.davis@... writes: On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 05:23, krin135@... said: > technically, Gene, the Hectograph was the flat plate, one sheet at a time > version. By the time I got into school, they had developed the Ditto > machine, which allowed a teacher to run off 30 copies in the matter of a couple > of > minutes, using roughly the same technology. I don't think anyone who went to school in the 60s and 70s will ever forget that smell! And the moist tackiness of the pages fresh out of the printer. Students would fight over who got to pass them out. Good times! The chemical, whatever it was, has probably been banned by the DEA by now. Rob ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 actually, it's limited by the EPA and NIOSH...although it can be used in the production of illicit drugs as well. ck In a message dated 12/01/10 12:35:57 Central Standard Time, rob.davis@... writes: On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 05:23, krin135@... said: > technically, Gene, the Hectograph was the flat plate, one sheet at a time > version. By the time I got into school, they had developed the Ditto > machine, which allowed a teacher to run off 30 copies in the matter of a couple > of > minutes, using roughly the same technology. I don't think anyone who went to school in the 60s and 70s will ever forget that smell! And the moist tackiness of the pages fresh out of the printer. Students would fight over who got to pass them out. Good times! The chemical, whatever it was, has probably been banned by the DEA by now. Rob ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 One of the things I like......looking back, was the telephone in the orange box...complete with a cord! It was like Telemetry....before Telemetry was invented! Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 One of the things I like......looking back, was the telephone in the orange box...complete with a cord! It was like Telemetry....before Telemetry was invented! Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 But, Les, just try or could u try 2 hook the 800 link up c a grant from the US gov NHTSA c Repeaters all over the panhandle of Texas 2 a LifePack3,5 or Datascope2 c the the defib cables wrapped around ur feet and telling Dixie () to have Dr, Early (Dr. Jo) to verify the gobblediegook U just sent them because U only have a 1 hour xport from Borger! PS to Gene (both Gandy & Weatherall) " We " are the reason that the great republic of Texas excels in EMS & always will! Abernathy Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 But, Les, just try or could u try 2 hook the 800 link up c a grant from the US gov NHTSA c Repeaters all over the panhandle of Texas 2 a LifePack3,5 or Datascope2 c the the defib cables wrapped around ur feet and telling Dixie () to have Dr, Early (Dr. Jo) to verify the gobblediegook U just sent them because U only have a 1 hour xport from Borger! PS to Gene (both Gandy & Weatherall) " We " are the reason that the great republic of Texas excels in EMS & always will! Abernathy Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Ah yes. The advanced Hectograph! LOL. GG PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ***** Named to Fortune's 1000 list for 2010 ***** ***** Ranked in Industry Week's " U.S. 500 Largest Manufacturing Companies " 2010 list. ***** ***** Named to Forbes's " The Most Trustworthy Companies " 2010 List ***** * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Ah yes. The advanced Hectograph! LOL. GG PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ***** Named to Fortune's 1000 list for 2010 ***** ***** Ranked in Industry Week's " U.S. 500 Largest Manufacturing Companies " 2010 list. ***** ***** Named to Forbes's " The Most Trustworthy Companies " 2010 List ***** * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Given how things go in medicine we'll probably be using them again in a few years!!! -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone On Dec 1, 2010, at 22:22, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 18:25, " Cougar!! " ems_cougar@...> said: > >> PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly >> medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one >> on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an >> Ambulance one time. > > Now, just combine the two! By the mid 80s, we had tossed the foot pumps, and were using the PPV demand valves to inflate the MAST pants. Got the job done a lot faster, and with a lot less effort. I also figure that being wrapped in pants inflated with 100 percent oxygen probably offered a serious hyperbaric benefit. > > Rob > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Lucas device would be very similar to a " thumper " but we have have them at the fire dept. And we have a great success with them. -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > Aren't thumpers already being used again? Or are we recycling nicknames? I've definitely heard of " thumpers " (used to describe an automated CPR device) being on ambulances, though rarely heard of them being used, and even more rarely believed the person who said they've used it. > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > > > > >> Given how things go in medicine we'll probably be using them again in a few years!!! >> >> -Chris >> >> Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone >> >> On Dec 1, 2010, at 22:22, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 18:25, " Cougar!! " ems_cougar@...> said: >>> >>>> PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly >>>> medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one >>>> on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an >>>> Ambulance one time. >>> >>> Now, just combine the two! By the mid 80s, we had tossed the foot pumps, and were using the PPV demand valves to inflate the MAST pants. Got the job done a lot faster, and with a lot less effort. I also figure that being wrapped in pants inflated with 100 percent oxygen probably offered a serious hyperbaric benefit. >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 The " Thumper " - now that brings back nightmares! What a pain to hook up with two steel E Cylinders - talk about extend scene times.... Les NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF Senior Safety Coordinator / Emergency Response Chief Westlake Chemical P.O. Box 228 36045 LA 30 Geismar, LA 70734-0228 e-Mail: lpowell@... Telephone: Fax: Cell: 225.439-6552 http://www.texasemsat.org/> " Next to creating a life, the finest thing a man can do is save one. " - Abraham Lincoln ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Cougar!! Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 18:26 To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an Ambulance one time. Oh ....and actually saw a " Thumper " once. Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 The " Thumper " - now that brings back nightmares! What a pain to hook up with two steel E Cylinders - talk about extend scene times.... Les NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF Senior Safety Coordinator / Emergency Response Chief Westlake Chemical P.O. Box 228 36045 LA 30 Geismar, LA 70734-0228 e-Mail: lpowell@... Telephone: Fax: Cell: 225.439-6552 http://www.texasemsat.org/> " Next to creating a life, the finest thing a man can do is save one. " - Abraham Lincoln ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Cougar!! Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 18:26 To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an Ambulance one time. Oh ....and actually saw a " Thumper " once. Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 not just that...in one test for an Airworthiness certification (USAF style), Physiocontrol had to allow them to toss an LP5 out of a hovering helo at 50 feet onto a concrete pad...and the machine still had to work within certification parameters after landing.... Somehow I doubt that there are any other monitor defibs that match that... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 10:43:48 Central Standard Time, delbert@... writes: Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@...> 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =========================================================== This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your computer. ETMC has implemented secure messaging for certain types of messages. For more information about our secure messaging system, go to: http://www.etmc.org/mail/ Thank you. =========================================================== ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 not just that...in one test for an Airworthiness certification (USAF style), Physiocontrol had to allow them to toss an LP5 out of a hovering helo at 50 feet onto a concrete pad...and the machine still had to work within certification parameters after landing.... Somehow I doubt that there are any other monitor defibs that match that... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 10:43:48 Central Standard Time, delbert@... writes: Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@...> 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =========================================================== This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your computer. ETMC has implemented secure messaging for certain types of messages. For more information about our secure messaging system, go to: http://www.etmc.org/mail/ Thank you. =========================================================== ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 we had three LP5s in the DUSTOFF unit back in 1980...no pacer module then, but with a bit of jury rigging you could do a 12 lead.... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 13:07:30 Central Standard Time, Grayson902@... writes: The LP5, most versatile and rugged monitor ever made. I had one that mated to an AED module, and also had a pacing module that went between the monitor half and the defib half. I'm still using two LP5's in ACLS class that I used on the rig 15 years ago, and they were old even back then. > > Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of > it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you > ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. > > >>> " , " swalker@... > > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> > But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? > > From: texasems-l > [mailto:texasems-l > ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM > To: texasems-l > Subject: RE: PASG > > I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction > units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! > > From: texasems-l > > [mailto:texasems-l > ] > On Behalf Of rob.davis@... > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM > To: texasems-l > > Subject: RE: PASG > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " > lpowell@... > > > said: > > > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... > > Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those > from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and > down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good > times! I've still got one in my garage. > > Rob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 we had three LP5s in the DUSTOFF unit back in 1980...no pacer module then, but with a bit of jury rigging you could do a 12 lead.... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 13:07:30 Central Standard Time, Grayson902@... writes: The LP5, most versatile and rugged monitor ever made. I had one that mated to an AED module, and also had a pacing module that went between the monitor half and the defib half. I'm still using two LP5's in ACLS class that I used on the rig 15 years ago, and they were old even back then. > > Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of > it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you > ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. > > >>> " , " swalker@... > > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> > But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? > > From: texasems-l > [mailto:texasems-l > ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM > To: texasems-l > Subject: RE: PASG > > I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction > units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! > > From: texasems-l > > [mailto:texasems-l > ] > On Behalf Of rob.davis@... > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM > To: texasems-l > > Subject: RE: PASG > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " > lpowell@... > > > said: > > > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... > > Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those > from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and > down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good > times! I've still got one in my garage. > > Rob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I'd prefer a fast rope test for the medic candidates....with the length of the rope vs altitude of the helo based on their scores in class....lower the score, higher the hover..... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 15:25:03 Central Standard Time, barry.sharp@... writes: I can see it now...instead of knowledge tests we can have an accuracy/structural integrity test by dropping equipment out of helos above street in front of the convention center. Closest to the bulls-eye without breaking the equipment wins two weeks in whatever that utopian place that Gandy was always sending people to for winning trivia contests. Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator Substance Abuse Services Unit Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of krin135@... Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:14 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG those old GI Mk 5 aid bags managed to land from 50 feet and maintain their integrity...even fully loaded... A pack should do well also, but I'm not sure about those plastic zippers... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 15:07:52 Central Standard Time, barry.sharp@... writes: Outside of board splints, I'm not sure there's much of anything we carry that would pass that test. Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator Substance Abuse Services Unit Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of krin135@... Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:05 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG not just that...in one test for an Airworthiness certification (USAF style), Physiocontrol had to allow them to toss an LP5 out of a hovering helo at 50 feet onto a concrete pad...and the machine still had to work within certification parameters after landing.... Somehow I doubt that there are any other monitor defibs that match that... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 10:43:48 Central Standard Time, delbert@... writes: Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@... > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =========================================================== This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your computer. ETMC has implemented secure messaging for certain types of messages. For more information about our secure messaging system, go to: http://www.etmc.org/mail/ Thank you. =========================================================== ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I'd prefer a fast rope test for the medic candidates....with the length of the rope vs altitude of the helo based on their scores in class....lower the score, higher the hover..... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 15:25:03 Central Standard Time, barry.sharp@... writes: I can see it now...instead of knowledge tests we can have an accuracy/structural integrity test by dropping equipment out of helos above street in front of the convention center. Closest to the bulls-eye without breaking the equipment wins two weeks in whatever that utopian place that Gandy was always sending people to for winning trivia contests. Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator Substance Abuse Services Unit Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of krin135@... Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:14 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG those old GI Mk 5 aid bags managed to land from 50 feet and maintain their integrity...even fully loaded... A pack should do well also, but I'm not sure about those plastic zippers... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 15:07:52 Central Standard Time, barry.sharp@... writes: Outside of board splints, I'm not sure there's much of anything we carry that would pass that test. Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator Substance Abuse Services Unit Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of krin135@... Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:05 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG not just that...in one test for an Airworthiness certification (USAF style), Physiocontrol had to allow them to toss an LP5 out of a hovering helo at 50 feet onto a concrete pad...and the machine still had to work within certification parameters after landing.... Somehow I doubt that there are any other monitor defibs that match that... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 10:43:48 Central Standard Time, delbert@... writes: Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@... > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =========================================================== This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your computer. ETMC has implemented secure messaging for certain types of messages. For more information about our secure messaging system, go to: http://www.etmc.org/mail/ Thank you. =========================================================== ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I'd prefer a fast rope test for the medic candidates....with the length of the rope vs altitude of the helo based on their scores in class....lower the score, higher the hover..... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 15:25:03 Central Standard Time, barry.sharp@... writes: I can see it now...instead of knowledge tests we can have an accuracy/structural integrity test by dropping equipment out of helos above street in front of the convention center. Closest to the bulls-eye without breaking the equipment wins two weeks in whatever that utopian place that Gandy was always sending people to for winning trivia contests. Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator Substance Abuse Services Unit Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of krin135@... Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:14 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG those old GI Mk 5 aid bags managed to land from 50 feet and maintain their integrity...even fully loaded... A pack should do well also, but I'm not sure about those plastic zippers... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 15:07:52 Central Standard Time, barry.sharp@... writes: Outside of board splints, I'm not sure there's much of anything we carry that would pass that test. Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator Substance Abuse Services Unit Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of krin135@... Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:05 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG not just that...in one test for an Airworthiness certification (USAF style), Physiocontrol had to allow them to toss an LP5 out of a hovering helo at 50 feet onto a concrete pad...and the machine still had to work within certification parameters after landing.... Somehow I doubt that there are any other monitor defibs that match that... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 10:43:48 Central Standard Time, delbert@... writes: Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@... > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =========================================================== This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your computer. ETMC has implemented secure messaging for certain types of messages. For more information about our secure messaging system, go to: http://www.etmc.org/mail/ Thank you. =========================================================== ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 The LP5 was half the weight and not as bulky as the MRL in the silver case with the paddles in the lid.... Les NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF Senior Safety Coordinator / Emergency Response Chief Westlake Chemical P.O. Box 228 36045 LA 30 Geismar, LA 70734-0228 e-Mail: lpowell@... Telephone: Fax: Cell: 225.439-6552 http://www.texasemsat.org/> " Next to creating a life, the finest thing a man can do is save one. " - Abraham Lincoln ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Don Elbert Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:40 To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@... > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " < lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 The LP5, most versatile and rugged monitor ever made. I had one that mated to an AED module, and also had a pacing module that went between the monitor half and the defib half. I'm still using two LP5's in ACLS class that I used on the rig 15 years ago, and they were old even back then. > > Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of > it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you > ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. > > >>> " , " swalker@... > > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> > But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? > > From: texasems-l > [mailto:texasems-l > ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM > To: texasems-l > Subject: RE: PASG > > I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction > units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! > > From: texasems-l > > [mailto:texasems-l > ] > On Behalf Of rob.davis@... > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM > To: texasems-l > > Subject: RE: PASG > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " > lpowell@... > > > said: > > > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... > > Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those > from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and > down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good > times! I've still got one in my garage. > > Rob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.