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Outside of board splints, I'm not sure there's much of anything we carry

that would pass that test.

Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES

Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator

Substance Abuse Services Unit

Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of krin135@...

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:05 PM

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Subject: Re: PASG

not just that...in one test for an Airworthiness certification (USAF

style), Physiocontrol had to allow them to toss an LP5 out of a hovering

helo at

50 feet onto a concrete pad...and the machine still had to work within

certification parameters after landing....

Somehow I doubt that there are any other monitor defibs that match

that...

ck

In a message dated 12/02/10 10:43:48 Central Standard Time,

delbert@... writes:

Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of

it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever

carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever.

>>> " , " swalker@... >

12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>>

But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5?

From: texasems-l

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Behalf Of Lemming, Steve

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: RE: PASG

I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units,

and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame!

From: texasems-l

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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM

To: texasems-l

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On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les "

lpowell@...

> said:

> 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide

> system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5

> and LP10 and send telemetry on them....

Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those

from

the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the

LA

and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've

still got one in my garage.

Rob

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I can see it now...instead of knowledge tests we can have an

accuracy/structural integrity test by dropping equipment out of helos

above street in front of the convention center. Closest to the bulls-eye

without breaking the equipment wins two weeks in whatever that utopian

place that Gandy was always sending people to for winning trivia

contests.

Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES

Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator

Substance Abuse Services Unit

Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of krin135@...

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:14 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: PASG

those old GI Mk 5 aid bags managed to land from 50 feet and maintain

their

integrity...even fully loaded...

A pack should do well also, but I'm not sure about those plastic

zippers...

ck

In a message dated 12/02/10 15:07:52 Central Standard Time,

barry.sharp@...

writes:

Outside of board splints, I'm not sure there's much of anything we carry

that would pass that test.

Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES

Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator

Substance Abuse Services Unit

Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division

________________________________

From: texasems-l

[mailto:texasems-l

] On

Behalf Of krin135@...

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:05 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: PASG

not just that...in one test for an Airworthiness certification (USAF

style), Physiocontrol had to allow them to toss an LP5 out of a hovering

helo at

50 feet onto a concrete pad...and the machine still had to work within

certification parameters after landing....

Somehow I doubt that there are any other monitor defibs that match

that...

ck

In a message dated 12/02/10 10:43:48 Central Standard Time,

delbert@...

writes:

Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of

it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever

carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever.

>>> " , " swalker@...

>

12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>>

But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5?

From: texasems-l

[mailto:texasems-l

] On

Behalf Of Lemming, Steve

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: RE: PASG

I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units,

and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame!

From: texasems-l

[mailto:texasems-l

] On

Behalf Of rob.davis@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: RE: PASG

On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les "

lpowell@...

> said:

> 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide

> system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5

> and LP10 and send telemetry on them....

Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those

from

the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the

LA

and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've

still got one in my garage.

Rob

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I have no clue,  Thats another thing I have not seen in many years. Thats one of

the reasons I wanted to get back on the board. I wanted to see what was being

talked about in EMS.

Foe the past two years, I have done nothing but transfer psych patients. A few

of them have actual medical problems, but not many. We don't even write a

traditional narrative anymore. It is pre printed, and you circle what applies,

and cross out what does not. 99% of them refuse to let you take vitals, because

they dont want to be prodded on, and the partial hospital we take then to does

that any way. They are not physically sick.

But lemme tell ya....these people can seem perfectly normal one minute, the be

combative and trying to jump out the back the next. Still.....it feels like

fraud, because of all my past training. A lot of the time, they are perfectly

normal, walk to the stretcher, are nice.......but that can change in an instant,

and you never know when it's coming.

But like I said, sometimes I don't even feel like a Medical EMT anymore, more

like a glorified Taxi, and Security Guard. So...I thought it would be nice to

come back and talk with folks who are still involved in REAL EMS.

Mike

I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY,

You can keep the " CHANGE. "

>

> > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 18:25, " Cougar!! " ems_cougar@...>

said:

> >

> >> PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What

incredibly

> >> medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never

saw one

> >> on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an

> >> Ambulance one time.

> >

> > Now, just combine the two! By the mid 80s, we had tossed the foot pumps, and

were using the PPV demand valves to inflate the MAST pants. Got the job done a

lot faster, and with a lot less effort. I also figure that being wrapped in

pants inflated with 100 percent oxygen probably offered a serious hyperbaric

benefit.

> >

> > Rob

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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