Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. GG PASG I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Reminds me of a new class of medics I was teaching at TEEX a couple years back. I would periodically refer to “ny and Royâ€. About the second week of class one the students finally got brave and asked “Do ny and Roy work for College Station or ?†Even better is the time I referred to the “Luby’s incident†and one of the students asked what happened at Luby’s. So I explained about the guy driving his truck into the front of the building then jumping out and shooting and killing people. As I finished the story another student said “wow I just drove by Luby’s yesterday I didn’t see a big hole in the buildingâ€. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Reminds me of a new class of medics I was teaching at TEEX a couple years back. I would periodically refer to “ny and Royâ€. About the second week of class one the students finally got brave and asked “Do ny and Roy work for College Station or ?†Even better is the time I referred to the “Luby’s incident†and one of the students asked what happened at Luby’s. So I explained about the guy driving his truck into the front of the building then jumping out and shooting and killing people. As I finished the story another student said “wow I just drove by Luby’s yesterday I didn’t see a big hole in the buildingâ€. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 ,   I remember watching those, the trunk monkey doc and stupid people on youtube in class.   ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:13:42 PM Subject: RE: PASG  I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l >[mailto:texasems-l ] On >Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 # 1 rule of EMS don't kill the pt, remember no one dies on the ambulance   ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 3:57:37 PM Subject: RE: PASG  And do you remember what not to do? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of shannon beltran Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:31 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG , I remember watching those, the trunk monkey doc and stupid people on youtube in class. ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:13:42 PM Subject: RE: PASG I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: >texasems-l > >[mailto:texasems-l ] > On >Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: >texasems-l > > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 # 1 rule of EMS don't kill the pt, remember no one dies on the ambulance   ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 3:57:37 PM Subject: RE: PASG  And do you remember what not to do? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of shannon beltran Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:31 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG , I remember watching those, the trunk monkey doc and stupid people on youtube in class. ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:13:42 PM Subject: RE: PASG I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: >texasems-l > >[mailto:texasems-l ] > On >Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: >texasems-l > > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 That true the Er does that Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 That true the Er does that Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 " I understand everyone must die eventually, but they must not die around me. " Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B Sent from the itty bitty keyboard on my iPhone > That true the Er does that > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > PASG > > > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is > considered > > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 " I understand everyone must die eventually, but they must not die around me. " Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B Sent from the itty bitty keyboard on my iPhone > That true the Er does that > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > PASG > > > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is > considered > > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 technically, Gene, the Hectograph was the flat plate, one sheet at a time version. By the time I got into school, they had developed the Ditto machine, which allowed a teacher to run off 30 copies in the matter of a couple of minutes, using roughly the same technology. ck In a message dated 12/01/10 00:31:44 Central Standard Time, wegandy1938@... writes: Lou, you're just a kid. Before the mimeograph was the Hectograph. That was the one with the purple pages and the fumes that would get you higher than 14 tons of marajaweenie. And when you got that purple stuff on your hands or clothes, it was there to stay. GG PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ***** Named to Fortune's 1000 list for 2010 ***** ***** Ranked in Industry Week's " U.S. 500 Largest Manufacturing Companies " 2010 list. ***** ***** Named to Forbes's " The Most Trustworthy Companies " 2010 List ***** * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Oh, in AZ, they don't need to progress. They're perfect. After all, they have the " Mother, May I? " system which insures optimum care. G Re: PASG Start a line with D5W and transport as soon as possible. And sadly, it'd seem that much of the southwest (California, Nevada, and Arizona) is needing to progress in EMS. Wes Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:20, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: > On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:16, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > > > Let's see if any of those ideas come back. > > Come back? In California, they never went away! It's sad, really. > > Rob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Lou, you're just a kid. Before the mimeograph was the Hectograph. That was the one with the purple pages and the fumes that would get you higher than 14 tons of marajaweenie. And when you got that purple stuff on your hands or clothes, it was there to stay. GG PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 05:23, krin135@... said: > technically, Gene, the Hectograph was the flat plate, one sheet at a time > version. By the time I got into school, they had developed the Ditto > machine, which allowed a teacher to run off 30 copies in the matter of a couple > of > minutes, using roughly the same technology. I don't think anyone who went to school in the 60s and 70s will ever forget that smell! And the moist tackiness of the pages fresh out of the printer. Students would fight over who got to pass them out. Good times! The chemical, whatever it was, has probably been banned by the DEA by now. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 05:23, krin135@... said: > technically, Gene, the Hectograph was the flat plate, one sheet at a time > version. By the time I got into school, they had developed the Ditto > machine, which allowed a teacher to run off 30 copies in the matter of a couple > of > minutes, using roughly the same technology. I don't think anyone who went to school in the 60s and 70s will ever forget that smell! And the moist tackiness of the pages fresh out of the printer. Students would fight over who got to pass them out. Good times! The chemical, whatever it was, has probably been banned by the DEA by now. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 05:23, krin135@... said: > technically, Gene, the Hectograph was the flat plate, one sheet at a time > version. By the time I got into school, they had developed the Ditto > machine, which allowed a teacher to run off 30 copies in the matter of a couple > of > minutes, using roughly the same technology. I don't think anyone who went to school in the 60s and 70s will ever forget that smell! And the moist tackiness of the pages fresh out of the printer. Students would fight over who got to pass them out. Good times! The chemical, whatever it was, has probably been banned by the DEA by now. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Les NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF Senior Safety Coordinator / Emergency Response Chief Westlake Chemical P.O. Box 228 36045 LA 30 Geismar, LA 70734-0228 e-Mail: lpowell@... Telephone: Fax: Cell: 225.439-6552 http://www.texasemsat.org/> " Next to creating a life, the finest thing a man can do is save one. " - Abraham Lincoln ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Cougar!! Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 15:00 To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG One of the things I like......looking back, was the telephone in the orange box...complete with a cord! It was like Telemetry....before Telemetry was invented! Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Les NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF Senior Safety Coordinator / Emergency Response Chief Westlake Chemical P.O. Box 228 36045 LA 30 Geismar, LA 70734-0228 e-Mail: lpowell@... Telephone: Fax: Cell: 225.439-6552 http://www.texasemsat.org/> " Next to creating a life, the finest thing a man can do is save one. " - Abraham Lincoln ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Cougar!! Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 15:00 To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG One of the things I like......looking back, was the telephone in the orange box...complete with a cord! It was like Telemetry....before Telemetry was invented! Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@...> said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an Ambulance one time. Oh ....and actually saw a " Thumper " once. Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an Ambulance one time. Oh ....and actually saw a " Thumper " once. Coug. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Aren't thumpers already being used again? Or are we recycling nicknames? I've definitely heard of " thumpers " (used to describe an automated CPR device) being on ambulances, though rarely heard of them being used, and even more rarely believed the person who said they've used it. Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > Given how things go in medicine we'll probably be using them again in a few years!!! > > -Chris > > Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 22:22, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 18:25, " Cougar!! " ems_cougar@...> said: > > > >> PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly > >> medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one > >> on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an > >> Ambulance one time. > > > > Now, just combine the two! By the mid 80s, we had tossed the foot pumps, and were using the PPV demand valves to inflate the MAST pants. Got the job done a lot faster, and with a lot less effort. I also figure that being wrapped in pants inflated with 100 percent oxygen probably offered a serious hyperbaric benefit. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Aren't thumpers already being used again? Or are we recycling nicknames? I've definitely heard of " thumpers " (used to describe an automated CPR device) being on ambulances, though rarely heard of them being used, and even more rarely believed the person who said they've used it. Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > Given how things go in medicine we'll probably be using them again in a few years!!! > > -Chris > > Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 22:22, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 18:25, " Cougar!! " ems_cougar@...> said: > > > >> PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly > >> medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one > >> on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an > >> Ambulance one time. > > > > Now, just combine the two! By the mid 80s, we had tossed the foot pumps, and were using the PPV demand valves to inflate the MAST pants. Got the job done a lot faster, and with a lot less effort. I also figure that being wrapped in pants inflated with 100 percent oxygen probably offered a serious hyperbaric benefit. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Lucas device would be very similar to a " thumper " but we have have them at the fire dept. And we have a great success with them. -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > Aren't thumpers already being used again? Or are we recycling nicknames? I've definitely heard of " thumpers " (used to describe an automated CPR device) being on ambulances, though rarely heard of them being used, and even more rarely believed the person who said they've used it. > > Alyssa Woods, NREMT-B > > > > > >> Given how things go in medicine we'll probably be using them again in a few years!!! >> >> -Chris >> >> Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone >> >> On Dec 1, 2010, at 22:22, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 18:25, " Cougar!! " ems_cougar@...> said: >>> >>>> PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly >>>> medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one >>>> on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an >>>> Ambulance one time. >>> >>> Now, just combine the two! By the mid 80s, we had tossed the foot pumps, and were using the PPV demand valves to inflate the MAST pants. Got the job done a lot faster, and with a lot less effort. I also figure that being wrapped in pants inflated with 100 percent oxygen probably offered a serious hyperbaric benefit. >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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