Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. GG PASG I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Right next to the ny and Roy disply. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wegandy Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. GG PASG I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 On Tuesday, November 30, 2010 14:26, " Wes Ogilvie " wes.ogilvie@...> said: > And sadly, it'd seem that much of the southwest (California, Nevada, and Arizona) > is needing to progress in EMS. I did my last refresher class at Loma in Southern California two years ago. Great school, with great instructors. Highly recommended. But man, the system itself is just horrible. I could not believe how clueless the majority of the medics in the class were, many with years of experience. Most of them's only interest in EMS was hoping to get on a fire truck somewhere, and nothing more. It was like going back in time to 1972. It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 All of my students do! SC Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 ,   I remember watching those, the trunk monkey doc and stupid people on youtube in class.   ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:13:42 PM Subject: RE: PASG  I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l >[mailto:texasems-l ] On >Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 ,   I remember watching those, the trunk monkey doc and stupid people on youtube in class.   ________________________________ To: " texasems-l " texasems-l > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:13:42 PM Subject: RE: PASG  I still have the series and we watch it every now and then in class to gauge today vs back then. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Wes Ogilvie Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG Sadly, I'm not sure how many of today's medics, let alone EMS students, know who ny and Roy are. Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad On Nov 30, 2010, at 14:09, " , " swalker@...> wrote: > Right next to the ny and Roy disply. > > From: texasems-l >[mailto:texasems-l ] On >Behalf Of Wegandy > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:06 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: PASG > > > > No place in cardiac arrest or any other condition. > > The place for the PASG is in the EMS museum. > > GG > > PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Hey, I resemble that! In defense of Louisiana EMS systems, we're not actually that bad. At least we have some inkling of our deficiencies. There are many states out there practicing circa 1980's EMS, and still think it's state of the art. > It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. -- Grayson, CCEMT-P www.kellygrayson.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Having seen other states, I'd dare say that Louisiana fits into the category of not that bad. Several of the states on both coasts, not to mention the District of Columbia, have reputations, in some cases deserved, that make Louisiana look stellar. Besides, doesn't anyone here know that we're supposed to picking on Oklahoma? Wes Ogilvie Sent from my iPad > Hey, I resemble that! > > In defense of Louisiana EMS systems, we're not actually that bad. At > least we have some inkling of our deficiencies. There are many states > out there practicing circa 1980's EMS, and still think it's state of the > art. > > > > It makes Louisiana look state-of-the-art. > > -- > Grayson, CCEMT-P www.kellygrayson.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Lou, you're just a kid. Before the mimeograph was the Hectograph. That was the one with the purple pages and the fumes that would get you higher than 14 tons of marajaweenie. And when you got that purple stuff on your hands or clothes, it was there to stay. GG PASG > > I have been doing some reading on MAST in cardiac arrest. so what is considered > the current protocol for MAST in arrest. I saw on artical that says it is good > becuase it supports BP 9 duh) and one that says no becuase with the increase > pressure it could limit the blood flow to the brain also bad. thoughts? Ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@...> said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 18:25, " Cougar!! " ems_cougar@...> said: > PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly > medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one > on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an > Ambulance one time. Now, just combine the two! By the mid 80s, we had tossed the foot pumps, and were using the PPV demand valves to inflate the MAST pants. Got the job done a lot faster, and with a lot less effort. I also figure that being wrapped in pants inflated with 100 percent oxygen probably offered a serious hyperbaric benefit. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Given how things go in medicine we'll probably be using them again in a few years!!! -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone On Dec 1, 2010, at 22:22, " rob.davis@... " rob.davis@...> wrote: > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 18:25, " Cougar!! " ems_cougar@...> said: > >> PASG and MAST....ok, now you are bringing back some memories! What incredibly >> medieval devices! I used to step on the foot pump bulb in class, but never saw one >> on the streets. I only saw a positive pressure valve on an 02 system on an >> Ambulance one time. > > Now, just combine the two! By the mid 80s, we had tossed the foot pumps, and were using the PPV demand valves to inflate the MAST pants. Got the job done a lot faster, and with a lot less effort. I also figure that being wrapped in pants inflated with 100 percent oxygen probably offered a serious hyperbaric benefit. > > Rob > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@...> 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@...> 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@...> 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 AMEN From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Don Elbert Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:40 AM To: texasems-l ' Subject: RE: PASG Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@...> 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 The LP5, most versatile and rugged monitor ever made. I had one that mated to an AED module, and also had a pacing module that went between the monitor half and the defib half. I'm still using two LP5's in ACLS class that I used on the rig 15 years ago, and they were old even back then. > > Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of > it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you > ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. > > >>> " , " swalker@... > > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> > But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? > > From: texasems-l > [mailto:texasems-l > ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM > To: texasems-l > Subject: RE: PASG > > I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction > units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! > > From: texasems-l > > [mailto:texasems-l > ] > On Behalf Of rob.davis@... > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM > To: texasems-l > > Subject: RE: PASG > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " > lpowell@... > > > said: > > > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... > > Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those > from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and > down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good > times! I've still got one in my garage. > > Rob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 only if the tires are reduced to 5 psi.... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 18:13:27 Central Standard Time, slemming@... writes: The new ones (non brand specific) claim you can park a ladder truck on top of them. I don't think I'd test that out though.. From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of krin135@... Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:05 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: PASG not just that...in one test for an Airworthiness certification (USAF style), Physiocontrol had to allow them to toss an LP5 out of a hovering helo at 50 feet onto a concrete pad...and the machine still had to work within certification parameters after landing.... Somehow I doubt that there are any other monitor defibs that match that... ck In a message dated 12/02/10 10:43:48 Central Standard Time, delbert@... writes: Don't be bad-mouthing my old LP 5's!!........the monitor most ahead of it's time (way back in time of course)......still love 'em - if you ever carried a LP 4 - you're a lover of a 5 forever. >>> " , " swalker@... > 12/2/2010 10:25 AM >>> But do have a Lifpacasaurus 5? From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lemming, Steve Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:36 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG I have two thumpers with various parts, a couple laerdal suction units, and an old steel SCBA bottle and airpack frame! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of rob.davis@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:12 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =========================================================== This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your computer. ETMC has implemented secure messaging for certain types of messages. For more information about our secure messaging system, go to: http://www.etmc.org/mail/ Thank you. =========================================================== ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 That would be Ladonia, Fannin County, TX, the garden spot of southern Fannin County. GG RE: PASG On Wednesday, December 1, 2010 16:51, " , Les " lpowell@... ; ; ; ; > said: > 16 Channel BioPhone... the old UHF System... Louisiana had a statewide > system they used until the late 80's... we did hook them up to the LP5 > and LP10 and send telemetry on them.... Back in the early 80s, Jerry Harness and I bought two dozen of those from the City of Dallas for about 75 dollars each, then went up and down the LA and MS Gulf Coast selling them for $500 dollars each. Good times! I've still got one in my garage. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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