Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

[Guest guest]

Please contact Bayani if you have questions. His contact information is

listed below.

Thanks,

Wes Ogilvie, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

HCESD-1 Reserve Coordinator

(cellular)

County ESD-1 is offering the following educational opportunities:

Prehospital Trauma Life Support (PHTLS) – June 25-26, 2010 $185.00

Advanced Medical Life Support (AMLS) – July 21-22, 2010 $185.00

International Trauma Life Support (ITLS) – July 29-30, 2010 $150.00

For registration information or to inquire about other courses, contact

bbayani@....

Bayani, AAS, EMT-P, CCPM

Lead Educator

County Emergency Services District 1

2800 Aldine Bender Rd

Houston, TX 77032

Phone

Fax

bbayani@...

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[Guest guest]

How intelligent

________________________________

From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

5 letters over 4.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@... "

lwd7734@... > wrote:

> Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> __________________________________________________________

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How intelligent

________________________________

From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

5 letters over 4.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@... "

lwd7734@... > wrote:

> Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> __________________________________________________________

> Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc

>

>

[Guest guest]

How intelligent

________________________________

From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

5 letters over 4.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@... "

lwd7734@... > wrote:

> Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> __________________________________________________________

> Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc

>

>

[Guest guest]

Are you very new to this list? Short quips of a nonsense type are a

hallmark here by nearly all of the regulars all of whom are pretty

high in thr inteligence area.

Not that anyone here gives much care or thought to unsigned one liners.

The shame us you could choose to engage in higher level debate and add

to the discussions rather than being said unsigned one line poser

(intended word)

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 11, 2010, at 23:12, " Cardenas, " luis.cardenas@...

> wrote:

> How intelligent

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: texasems-l texasems-l >

> To: texasems-l texasems-l >

> Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

> Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

>

>

>

>

> 5 letters over 4.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

> On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@...

> " lwd7734@...

> > wrote:

>

> > Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> > __________________________________________________________

> > Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Are you very new to this list? Short quips of a nonsense type are a

hallmark here by nearly all of the regulars all of whom are pretty

high in thr inteligence area.

Not that anyone here gives much care or thought to unsigned one liners.

The shame us you could choose to engage in higher level debate and add

to the discussions rather than being said unsigned one line poser

(intended word)

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 11, 2010, at 23:12, " Cardenas, " luis.cardenas@...

> wrote:

> How intelligent

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: texasems-l texasems-l >

> To: texasems-l texasems-l >

> Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

> Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

>

>

>

>

> 5 letters over 4.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

> On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@...

> " lwd7734@...

> > wrote:

>

> > Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> > __________________________________________________________

> > Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Are you very new to this list? Short quips of a nonsense type are a

hallmark here by nearly all of the regulars all of whom are pretty

high in thr inteligence area.

Not that anyone here gives much care or thought to unsigned one liners.

The shame us you could choose to engage in higher level debate and add

to the discussions rather than being said unsigned one line poser

(intended word)

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 11, 2010, at 23:12, " Cardenas, " luis.cardenas@...

> wrote:

> How intelligent

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: texasems-l texasems-l >

> To: texasems-l texasems-l >

> Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

> Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

>

>

>

>

> 5 letters over 4.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

> On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@...

> " lwd7734@...

> > wrote:

>

> > Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> > __________________________________________________________

> > Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I agree wholeheartedly. Very well said!

Rick

Sent via Blackberry

________________________________

From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Sent: Sat Jun 12 20:37:04 2010

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

Mr. Cardenas,

While I must agree that you have a right to your opinion, I do not believe that

any of your comments have been either positive or constructive. I believe I

speak for the majority of us on this list, when I say, if you are not satisfied

with either the content or the discussion on this list feel free to remove

yourself from it's membership. We are here to discuss topics pertainant to EMS

and the practice of medicine in general. If this does not apply to you or

interest you, we will not fault you for leaving. Perhaps a firefighting list

would be more to your liking, and or experience level.

" Soap box put away once again "

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:12 PM, " Cardenas, "

luis.cardenas@...>

wrote:

How intelligent

________________________________

From: texasems-l

texasems-l >

To: texasems-l

texasems-l >

Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

5 letters over 4.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@...

" lwd7734@...

> wrote:

> Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> __________________________________________________________

> Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc

>

>

[Guest guest]

If that were the case we would have seen a lot more complaints.

Rick

Sent via Blackberry

________________________________

From: texasems-l texasems-l >

To: texasems-l texasems-l >

Sent: Sat Jun 12 20:46:41 2010

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

I'm not one to jump into a dog-pile just because everyone else is, so I'll

refrain. But I am sure curious to hear exactly what kind of discussion Captain

Cardenas expected to hear on an EMS discussion group if it isn't the practice of

EMS? Perhaps it is we who have a misunderstanding of what the group is supposed

to be about?

Rob

> Mr. Cardenas,

>

> While I must agree that you have a right to your opinion, I do not believe

that

> any of your comments have been either positive or constructive. I believe I

speak

> for the majority of us on this list, when I say, if you are not satisfied with

> either the content or the discussion on this list feel free to remove yourself

> from it's membership. We are here to discuss topics pertainant to EMS and the

> practice of medicine in general. If this does not apply to you or interest

you, we

> will not fault you for leaving. Perhaps a firefighting list would be more to

your

> liking, and or experience level.

>

> " Soap box put away once again "

>

> Sent from my iPhone,

> McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

[Guest guest]

well, I learned how to skin cars with a K-Bar-T, pneumatic chisel,

reciprocating saw, Porta-Power rams and wedges, Come-A-Longs and a neat little

device made from an old truck leaf spring- the big powered hydraulic wedges and

snippers were just coming into use.

and I've seen several people badly damaged by unhappy cows....not including

the bull riders and clowns at the rodeo.

ck

In a message dated 6/13/2010 09:30:58 Central Daylight Time,

rob.davis@... writes:

Skinning cars? Unhappy cows kicking people in the ED? Tis a strange world

we live in!

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 00:22, " Louis N. Molino, Sr. " _lnmolino@..._

(mailto:lnmolino@...) > said:

> We skin cars in many ways.

>

> I had a man who was kicked by a cow in a tender area In the ED while

> on a clinal rotation. He was not happy. By the end of my 8 hours he

> was in the OR. He was even less happy. No idea as to out ome.

[Guest guest]

Damn TYPO it was cats not cars and I did the extrication stuff too

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/13/2010 9:38:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

krin135@... writes:

well, I learned how to skin cars with a K-Bar-T, pneumatic chisel,

reciprocating saw, Porta-Power rams and wedges, Come-A-Longs and a neat

little

device made from an old truck leaf spring- the big powered hydraulic

wedges and

snippers were just coming into use.

and I've seen several people badly damaged by unhappy cows....not

including

the bull riders and clowns at the rodeo.

ck

In a message dated 6/13/2010 09:30:58 Central Daylight Time,

_rob.davis@..._ (mailto:rob.davis@...)

writes:

Skinning cars? Unhappy cows kicking people in the ED? Tis a strange world

we live in!

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 00:22, " Louis N. Molino, Sr. "

__lnmolino@..._ (mailto:_lnmolino@...) _

(mailto:_lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) ) > said:

> We skin cars in many ways.

>

> I had a man who was kicked by a cow in a tender area In the ED while

> on a clinal rotation. He was not happy. By the end of my 8 hours he

> was in the OR. He was even less happy. No idea as to out ome.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

Called TEXAS

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/13/2010 9:30:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

rob.davis@... writes:

Skinning cars? Unhappy cows kicking people in the ED? Tis a strange world

we live in!

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 00:22, " Louis N. Molino, Sr. " _lnmolino@..._

(mailto:lnmolino@...) > said:

> We skin cars in many ways.

>

> I had a man who was kicked by a cow in a tender area In the ED while

> on a clinal rotation. He was not happy. By the end of my 8 hours he

> was in the OR. He was even less happy. No idea as to out ome.

[Guest guest]

Captain Cardenas:

I completely understand. One of the long-standing traditions of the fire

service are good-natured pranks. Sometimes, someone crosses the line that

demarcates good nature. This might've been one of those times.

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Attorney at Law/Licensed Paramedic

-Austin, Texas

In a message dated 6/13/2010 11:41:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

luis.cardenas@... writes:

To all the members of this forum. An incident has occurred that is both

embarrassing and concerning. I left my blackberry at an unsecured

location. During this time a third party allegedly made several replies

to this forum on my behalf. While it was difficult to dissect and

follow the replies, they were in fact inconsiderate and unprofessional.

Please accept my deepest apologies. Any comments made on the evening of

June 11th from this address do not reflect the opinion or mission of The

Dallas Fire Department.

Rest assured the matter is being investigated and will be dealt with

accordingly.

Regards,

L. Albert Cardenas, Captain

EMS Coordinator

Dallas Fire Rescue

Training & Support Services Bureau

cell

fax

________________________________

From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

[mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) ] On

Behalf Of McGee

Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:37 PM

To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

Mr. Cardenas,

While I must agree that you have a right to your opinion, I do not

believe that any of your comments have been either positive or

constructive. I believe I speak for the majority of us on this list,

when I say, if you are not satisfied with either the content or the

discussion on this list feel free to remove yourself from it's

membership. We are here to discuss topics pertainant to EMS and the

practice of medicine in general. If this does not apply to you or

interest you, we will not fault you for leaving. Perhaps a firefighting

list would be more to your liking, and or experience level.

" Soap box put away once again "

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:12 PM, " Cardenas, " <

_luis.cardenas@..._

(mailto:luis.cardenas@...)

> wrote:

How intelligent

________________________________

From: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

>

To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

<

_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

>

Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

5 letters over 4.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...)

On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " _lwd7734@..._ (mailto:lwd7734@...)

" _lwd7734@..._

(mailto:lwd7734@...)

> wrote:

> Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> __________________________________________________________

> Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> _http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc_

(http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Skinning cars? Unhappy cows kicking people in the ED? Tis a strange world we

live in!

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 00:22, " Louis N. Molino, Sr. " lnmolino@...> said:

> We skin cars in many ways.

>

> I had a man who was kicked by a cow in a tender area In the ED while

> on a clinal rotation. He was not happy. By the end of my 8 hours he

> was in the OR. He was even less happy. No idea as to out ome.

[Guest guest]

To all the members of this forum. An incident has occurred that is both

embarrassing and concerning. I left my blackberry at an unsecured

location. During this time a third party allegedly made several replies

to this forum on my behalf. While it was difficult to dissect and

follow the replies, they were in fact inconsiderate and unprofessional.

Please accept my deepest apologies. Any comments made on the evening of

June 11th from this address do not reflect the opinion or mission of The

Dallas Fire Department.

Rest assured the matter is being investigated and will be dealt with

accordingly.

Regards,

L. Albert Cardenas, Captain

EMS Coordinator

Dallas Fire Rescue

Training & Support Services Bureau

cell

fax

________________________________

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of McGee

Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:37 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

Mr. Cardenas,

While I must agree that you have a right to your opinion, I do not

believe that any of your comments have been either positive or

constructive. I believe I speak for the majority of us on this list,

when I say, if you are not satisfied with either the content or the

discussion on this list feel free to remove yourself from it's

membership. We are here to discuss topics pertainant to EMS and the

practice of medicine in general. If this does not apply to you or

interest you, we will not fault you for leaving. Perhaps a firefighting

list would be more to your liking, and or experience level.

" Soap box put away once again "

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:12 PM, " Cardenas, " <

luis.cardenas@...

> wrote:

How intelligent

________________________________

From: texasems-l

texasems-l >

To: texasems-l <

texasems-l >

Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

5 letters over 4.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@...

" lwd7734@...

> wrote:

> Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> __________________________________________________________

> Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ouch. That's a lesson for all of us. I van belive that and do based on

the fact the Captain has included his full addres and title.

No harm no foul in my boom and a clean slate.

Please be a contributing Member of the list Captian!

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 13, 2010, at 11:26, " Cardenas, " luis.cardenas@...

> wrote:

> To all the members of this forum. An incident has occurred that is

> both

> embarrassing and concerning. I left my blackberry at an unsecured

> location. During this time a third party allegedly made several

> replies

> to this forum on my behalf. While it was difficult to dissect and

> follow the replies, they were in fact inconsiderate and

> unprofessional.

> Please accept my deepest apologies. Any comments made on the evening

> of

> June 11th from this address do not reflect the opinion or mission of

> The

> Dallas Fire Department.

>

> Rest assured the matter is being investigated and will be dealt with

> accordingly.

>

> Regards,

>

> L. Albert Cardenas, Captain

>

> EMS Coordinator

>

> Dallas Fire Rescue

>

> Training & Support Services Bureau

>

>

>

> cell

>

> fax

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ]

> On

> Behalf Of McGee

> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:37 PM

> To: texasems-l

> Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

>

> Mr. Cardenas,

>

> While I must agree that you have a right to your opinion, I do not

> believe that any of your comments have been either positive or

> constructive. I believe I speak for the majority of us on this list,

> when I say, if you are not satisfied with either the content or the

> discussion on this list feel free to remove yourself from it's

> membership. We are here to discuss topics pertainant to EMS and the

> practice of medicine in general. If this does not apply to you or

> interest you, we will not fault you for leaving. Perhaps a

> firefighting

> list would be more to your liking, and or experience level.

>

> " Soap box put away once again "

>

> Sent from my iPhone,

> McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

>

> On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:12 PM, " Cardenas, " <

> luis.cardenas@...

> > wrote:

>

> How intelligent

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: texasems-l

> texasems-l >

> To: texasems-l <

> texasems-l >

> Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

> Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

>

> 5 letters over 4.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

> On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@...

>

> " lwd7734@...

> > wrote:

>

> > Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

> > __________________________________________________________

> > Penny Stock Jumping 2000%

> > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today!

> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c1305cd6afb23bd99est01vuc

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ouch. That's a lesson for all of us. I van belive that and do based on

the fact the Captain has included his full addres and title.

No harm no foul in my boom and a clean slate.

Please be a contributing Member of the list Captian!

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

On Jun 13, 2010, at 11:26, " Cardenas, " luis.cardenas@...

> wrote:

> To all the members of this forum. An incident has occurred that is

> both

> embarrassing and concerning. I left my blackberry at an unsecured

> location. During this time a third party allegedly made several

> replies

> to this forum on my behalf. While it was difficult to dissect and

> follow the replies, they were in fact inconsiderate and

> unprofessional.

> Please accept my deepest apologies. Any comments made on the evening

> of

> June 11th from this address do not reflect the opinion or mission of

> The

> Dallas Fire Department.

>

> Rest assured the matter is being investigated and will be dealt with

> accordingly.

>

> Regards,

>

> L. Albert Cardenas, Captain

>

> EMS Coordinator

>

> Dallas Fire Rescue

>

> Training & Support Services Bureau

>

>

>

> cell

>

> fax

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ]

> On

> Behalf Of McGee

> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:37 PM

> To: texasems-l

> Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

>

> Mr. Cardenas,

>

> While I must agree that you have a right to your opinion, I do not

> believe that any of your comments have been either positive or

> constructive. I believe I speak for the majority of us on this list,

> when I say, if you are not satisfied with either the content or the

> discussion on this list feel free to remove yourself from it's

> membership. We are here to discuss topics pertainant to EMS and the

> practice of medicine in general. If this does not apply to you or

> interest you, we will not fault you for leaving. Perhaps a

> firefighting

> list would be more to your liking, and or experience level.

>

> " Soap box put away once again "

>

> Sent from my iPhone,

> McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

>

> On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:12 PM, " Cardenas, " <

> luis.cardenas@...

> > wrote:

>

> How intelligent

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: texasems-l

> texasems-l >

> To: texasems-l <

> texasems-l >

> Sent: Fri Jun 11 23:10:56 2010

> Subject: Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

>

> 5 letters over 4.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

> On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@...

>

> " lwd7734@...

> > wrote:

>

> > Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

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[Guest guest]

Hey Alyssa does that mean no woman is a peninsula and no blackbery is safe?

Abernathy Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

>

> 5 letters over 4.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

> On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:56, " lwd7734@...

>

> " lwd7734@...

> > wrote:

>

> > Question: Why is PHTLS more money than ITLS?

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[Guest guest]

I remember the old leaf spring trick. You sharpen it with a grinder, then with

a mallet you can skin the roof off a car just about as fast as with the

hydraulic snippers. We also used air chisels. We didn't have a rescue truck,

but one of our volunteers had a wrecker service with an air chisel and he would

respond. Amazing what you can do with a come-along, air chisel, and sharpened

leaf-spring.

GG

Re: Upcoming County ESD-1 Courses

well, I learned how to skin cars with a K-Bar-T, pneumatic chisel,

reciprocating saw, Porta-Power rams and wedges, Come-A-Longs and a neat little

device made from an old truck leaf spring- the big powered hydraulic wedges and

snippers were just coming into use.

and I've seen several people badly damaged by unhappy cows....not including

the bull riders and clowns at the rodeo.

ck

In a message dated 6/13/2010 09:30:58 Central Daylight Time,

rob.davis@... writes:

Skinning cars? Unhappy cows kicking people in the ED? Tis a strange world

we live in!

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 00:22, " Louis N. Molino, Sr. " _lnmolino@..._

(mailto:lnmolino@...) > said:

> We skin cars in many ways.

>

> I had a man who was kicked by a cow in a tender area In the ED while

> on a clinal rotation. He was not happy. By the end of my 8 hours he

> was in the OR. He was even less happy. No idea as to out ome.