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Qualifying question. Does the perpetrator still qualify if they have

exhibited some reform (maintained for five or more years) and growth

after an extensive period of reprehensible behavior?

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In a message dated 4/25/03 8:51:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

four_eyes1972@... writes:

> Now if I were to see my ex, I'd thank him for dumping me. Then I'd let my

> husband kick his ass....

>

>

lol! Sounds very,very familiar...lol

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In a message dated 4/25/03 8:51:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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> Now if I were to see my ex, I'd thank him for dumping me. Then I'd let my

> husband kick his ass....

>

>

lol! Sounds very,very familiar...lol

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>>Qualifying question. Does the perpetrator still qualify if they have

exhibited some reform (maintained for five or more years) and growth

after an extensive period of reprehensible behavior?<<

Wow I don't know but I would love to heard about such a person.

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Qualifying question. Does the perpetrator still qualify if they have

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>>Qualifying question. Does the perpetrator still qualify if they have

exhibited some reform (maintained for five or more years) and growth

after an extensive period of reprehensible behavior?<<

Wow I don't know but I would love to heard about such a person.

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Qualifying question. Does the perpetrator still qualify if they have

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>>Qualifying question. Does the perpetrator still qualify if they have

exhibited some reform (maintained for five or more years) and growth

after an extensive period of reprehensible behavior?<<

Wow I don't know but I would love to heard about such a person.

Warm Regards

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Qualifying question. Does the perpetrator still qualify if they have

exhibited some reform (maintained for five or more years) and growth

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> OMG Georga. I think your ex and Lou are the best candidates for this

> award. Wow.

>

Oh, once we added the boyfriends, Lou was clearly out of the running. If we

stuck to husbands (which he technically still is, alas) he might do better,

and if we stuck to current husbands, as opposed to ex-husbands, well, then I

think he would win indeed!

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I dunno...

If my ex showed up I have a bat'leth that I would shove up his ass. LOL!

wouldn't get a chance to kick his ass.

This reminds me of something funny said. He is working this stupid

midnight shift until the end of next month and I told him he is supposed to

be home at night to be the protecter of the family and all. His comment was

" Protecter? Me? Hell, you are the one with the bat'leth. " LOL!!

Georga

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> In a message dated 4/25/03 8:51:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> four_eyes1972@... writes:

>

>

> > Now if I were to see my ex, I'd thank him for dumping me. Then I'd let

my

> > husband kick his ass....

> >

> >

>

> lol! Sounds very,very familiar...lol

>

> The Grammas & Keion

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I'll join your husband in kicking his ass! I'm sorry you went through

all that.

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LOL.. thanks Maggie. I look at it this way tho, if I hadn't gone

thru all that, I would not have met my current husband and have my

one year old son now... so its all good in in the end!

> I'll join your husband in kicking his ass! I'm sorry you went

through

> all that.

>

> Maggie

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> oh oh me me...My sister's ex is a real winner.....

>

> Stayed out drinking all weekend and then came home and told my

sister that he had hit a 7 yr old girl on her bike and that he had

spend the weekend sitting with the parents at the hospital while they

waited to see if their daughter would live.........

>

That's pretty damned bad. I don't know if I can top it or not.

My sister's ex has yet to acknowledge his youngest son's birthday. He

turned 15 this March. He doesn't deny paternity he just doesn't

acknowledge the child exists because he " doesn't like him. "

Out of the 15 years they were married he worked a total of 7. He had

so much time off without pay that they couldn't afford to pay the

house payment. What does he do? He decides he wants to be a body

builder and buys lots of protein drinks from the health food store

(read: outrageously expensive) with his credit card. My sister is

counting every penny trying to keep the house and he takes the credit

card and goes and buys himself steak dinners at a restaurant to help

him " bulk up " .

Sis is working a full-time job and going to school. They can't afford

a sitter but she can't leave the kids with him because she would come

home after 8 hours of work and the kids would still have the same

diaper on! When they got older and didn't take bottles he would fix

food for himself but not them. Sis would leave a bowl of cereal for

each of them on the counter and 3 small glasses of milk so they could

fix their own breakfast. He wouldn't even pour the milk for them.

After almost 12 years of this crap, she started working 3 jobs to buy

a new house. For 2 1/2 years they lived with my parents while she did

this. He worked 4 months during that time. She got the mortgage in

her name alone and told him he wasn't moving in with her and the

kids. He tried to choke her to death. She had bruises all over her

neck. He got thrown in jail. He called me collect and told me it was

her fault. She cheated him out of a house he worked so hard for. He

expected me to bail him out because he'd " found God. " yeah right.

When the divorce was final she ended up with a $4000 credit card

bill. He filled out the form and forged her name. She had no idea he

had the card at all. The judge told her that since they were married

at the time she was finacially responsible.

And the reason I think he sounds like Lou is because he honestly

doesn't understand why he got thrown in jail. It's not his fault. All

the money problems aren't his fault either. He needed the satellite,

the shopsmith, the 63 Mustang, etc. etc. etc.... After all,

they " gave " him a credit card. They shouldn't have done that if he

couldn't afford to make the payments.

Tina

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> oh oh me me...My sister's ex is a real winner.....

>

> Stayed out drinking all weekend and then came home and told my

sister that he had hit a 7 yr old girl on her bike and that he had

spend the weekend sitting with the parents at the hospital while they

waited to see if their daughter would live.........

>

That's pretty damned bad. I don't know if I can top it or not.

My sister's ex has yet to acknowledge his youngest son's birthday. He

turned 15 this March. He doesn't deny paternity he just doesn't

acknowledge the child exists because he " doesn't like him. "

Out of the 15 years they were married he worked a total of 7. He had

so much time off without pay that they couldn't afford to pay the

house payment. What does he do? He decides he wants to be a body

builder and buys lots of protein drinks from the health food store

(read: outrageously expensive) with his credit card. My sister is

counting every penny trying to keep the house and he takes the credit

card and goes and buys himself steak dinners at a restaurant to help

him " bulk up " .

Sis is working a full-time job and going to school. They can't afford

a sitter but she can't leave the kids with him because she would come

home after 8 hours of work and the kids would still have the same

diaper on! When they got older and didn't take bottles he would fix

food for himself but not them. Sis would leave a bowl of cereal for

each of them on the counter and 3 small glasses of milk so they could

fix their own breakfast. He wouldn't even pour the milk for them.

After almost 12 years of this crap, she started working 3 jobs to buy

a new house. For 2 1/2 years they lived with my parents while she did

this. He worked 4 months during that time. She got the mortgage in

her name alone and told him he wasn't moving in with her and the

kids. He tried to choke her to death. She had bruises all over her

neck. He got thrown in jail. He called me collect and told me it was

her fault. She cheated him out of a house he worked so hard for. He

expected me to bail him out because he'd " found God. " yeah right.

When the divorce was final she ended up with a $4000 credit card

bill. He filled out the form and forged her name. She had no idea he

had the card at all. The judge told her that since they were married

at the time she was finacially responsible.

And the reason I think he sounds like Lou is because he honestly

doesn't understand why he got thrown in jail. It's not his fault. All

the money problems aren't his fault either. He needed the satellite,

the shopsmith, the 63 Mustang, etc. etc. etc.... After all,

they " gave " him a credit card. They shouldn't have done that if he

couldn't afford to make the payments.

Tina

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Wow Tina, he sounds like a real jerk!! Now that they are divorced, does he see

the children or pay support? Some people I will never understand but that is

just like My sister's ex, nothing has ever been his fault. Someone caused it to

happen to him. Too bad My nephew has learned that crap. He stood up and swore at

school (he is 12)... " Well if they hadn't pissed me off, I wouldn't have had to

do it " Nice

>>Heexpected me to bail him out because he'd " found God. " yeah right.<< Didn't

know God was lost LOL. I hate when people think that excuses everything!!

Warm Regards

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> oh oh me me...My sister's ex is a real winner.....

>

> Stayed out drinking all weekend and then came home and told my

sister that he had hit a 7 yr old girl on her bike and that he had

spend the weekend sitting with the parents at the hospital while they

waited to see if their daughter would live.........

>

That's pretty damned bad. I don't know if I can top it or not.

My sister's ex has yet to acknowledge his youngest son's birthday. He

turned 15 this March. He doesn't deny paternity he just doesn't

acknowledge the child exists because he " doesn't like him. "

Out of the 15 years they were married he worked a total of 7. He had

so much time off without pay that they couldn't afford to pay the

house payment. What does he do? He decides he wants to be a body

builder and buys lots of protein drinks from the health food store

(read: outrageously expensive) with his credit card. My sister is

counting every penny trying to keep the house and he takes the credit

card and goes and buys himself steak dinners at a restaurant to help

him " bulk up " .

Sis is working a full-time job and going to school. They can't afford

a sitter but she can't leave the kids with him because she would come

home after 8 hours of work and the kids would still have the same

diaper on! When they got older and didn't take bottles he would fix

food for himself but not them. Sis would leave a bowl of cereal for

each of them on the counter and 3 small glasses of milk so they could

fix their own breakfast. He wouldn't even pour the milk for them.

After almost 12 years of this crap, she started working 3 jobs to buy

a new house. For 2 1/2 years they lived with my parents while she did

this. He worked 4 months during that time. She got the mortgage in

her name alone and told him he wasn't moving in with her and the

kids. He tried to choke her to death. She had bruises all over her

neck. He got thrown in jail. He called me collect and told me it was

her fault. She cheated him out of a house he worked so hard for. He

expected me to bail him out because he'd " found God. " yeah right.

When the divorce was final she ended up with a $4000 credit card

bill. He filled out the form and forged her name. She had no idea he

had the card at all. The judge told her that since they were married

at the time she was finacially responsible.

And the reason I think he sounds like Lou is because he honestly

doesn't understand why he got thrown in jail. It's not his fault. All

the money problems aren't his fault either. He needed the satellite,

the shopsmith, the 63 Mustang, etc. etc. etc.... After all,

they " gave " him a credit card. They shouldn't have done that if he

couldn't afford to make the payments.

Tina

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Wow Tina, he sounds like a real jerk!! Now that they are divorced, does he see

the children or pay support? Some people I will never understand but that is

just like My sister's ex, nothing has ever been his fault. Someone caused it to

happen to him. Too bad My nephew has learned that crap. He stood up and swore at

school (he is 12)... " Well if they hadn't pissed me off, I wouldn't have had to

do it " Nice

>>Heexpected me to bail him out because he'd " found God. " yeah right.<< Didn't

know God was lost LOL. I hate when people think that excuses everything!!

Warm Regards

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> oh oh me me...My sister's ex is a real winner.....

>

> Stayed out drinking all weekend and then came home and told my

sister that he had hit a 7 yr old girl on her bike and that he had

spend the weekend sitting with the parents at the hospital while they

waited to see if their daughter would live.........

>

That's pretty damned bad. I don't know if I can top it or not.

My sister's ex has yet to acknowledge his youngest son's birthday. He

turned 15 this March. He doesn't deny paternity he just doesn't

acknowledge the child exists because he " doesn't like him. "

Out of the 15 years they were married he worked a total of 7. He had

so much time off without pay that they couldn't afford to pay the

house payment. What does he do? He decides he wants to be a body

builder and buys lots of protein drinks from the health food store

(read: outrageously expensive) with his credit card. My sister is

counting every penny trying to keep the house and he takes the credit

card and goes and buys himself steak dinners at a restaurant to help

him " bulk up " .

Sis is working a full-time job and going to school. They can't afford

a sitter but she can't leave the kids with him because she would come

home after 8 hours of work and the kids would still have the same

diaper on! When they got older and didn't take bottles he would fix

food for himself but not them. Sis would leave a bowl of cereal for

each of them on the counter and 3 small glasses of milk so they could

fix their own breakfast. He wouldn't even pour the milk for them.

After almost 12 years of this crap, she started working 3 jobs to buy

a new house. For 2 1/2 years they lived with my parents while she did

this. He worked 4 months during that time. She got the mortgage in

her name alone and told him he wasn't moving in with her and the

kids. He tried to choke her to death. She had bruises all over her

neck. He got thrown in jail. He called me collect and told me it was

her fault. She cheated him out of a house he worked so hard for. He

expected me to bail him out because he'd " found God. " yeah right.

When the divorce was final she ended up with a $4000 credit card

bill. He filled out the form and forged her name. She had no idea he

had the card at all. The judge told her that since they were married

at the time she was finacially responsible.

And the reason I think he sounds like Lou is because he honestly

doesn't understand why he got thrown in jail. It's not his fault. All

the money problems aren't his fault either. He needed the satellite,

the shopsmith, the 63 Mustang, etc. etc. etc.... After all,

they " gave " him a credit card. They shouldn't have done that if he

couldn't afford to make the payments.

Tina

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I knew there had to be someone worse than my ex (husband)! Or at

least equal. I'm positive I'd have had more 'great times ha' had I

stayed more than a year.

Shakes head..why on earth did we DO this to ourselves! Oh that's

right..we LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED them. Believe it or not...there WERE

some really great times with my ex. They were few and far between

but it was like this huge rollercoaster. The good times were great,

and the bad times were just horrid. And I really did think if I

loved him and he loved me, it'd all work out.

My advice to people facing this now. " you can love until you're blue

in the face (in my case, I was literally blue in the face...bruised),

but it won't make a marriage work. A marriage must be based on

mutual respect, trust, communication and no substance abuse issues or

codependency. "

There were very good things that came out of my marriage.

1. I learned exactly what I didn't want and did want in a husband,

and to not settle for less than what I found acceptable. I learned

to be very picky...and never expected anyone to change for me.

2. I had a drinking problem at the time...a mild one. I earned a

great distain for drunks and kept myself sober, even if at the time

it was only because SOMEBODY had to be responsible. Had I been

using, I'm sure I'd have been in jail right along with him...or dead.

3 I learned a bad relationship is NEVER EVER EVER better than being

alone. I learned to like myself quite a bit, and actually became

accustomed to being single.

> > oh oh me me...My sister's ex is a real winner.....

> >

> > Stayed out drinking all weekend and then came home and told my

> sister that he had hit a 7 yr old girl on her bike and that he had

> spend the weekend sitting with the parents at the hospital while

they

> waited to see if their daughter would live.........

> >

>

> That's pretty damned bad. I don't know if I can top it or not.

>

> My sister's ex has yet to acknowledge his youngest son's birthday.

He

> turned 15 this March. He doesn't deny paternity he just doesn't

> acknowledge the child exists because he " doesn't like him. "

>

> Out of the 15 years they were married he worked a total of 7. He

had

> so much time off without pay that they couldn't afford to pay the

> house payment. What does he do? He decides he wants to be a body

> builder and buys lots of protein drinks from the health food store

> (read: outrageously expensive) with his credit card. My sister is

> counting every penny trying to keep the house and he takes the

credit

> card and goes and buys himself steak dinners at a restaurant to

help

> him " bulk up " .

>

> Sis is working a full-time job and going to school. They can't

afford

> a sitter but she can't leave the kids with him because she would

come

> home after 8 hours of work and the kids would still have the same

> diaper on! When they got older and didn't take bottles he would fix

> food for himself but not them. Sis would leave a bowl of cereal for

> each of them on the counter and 3 small glasses of milk so they

could

> fix their own breakfast. He wouldn't even pour the milk for them.

>

> After almost 12 years of this crap, she started working 3 jobs to

buy

> a new house. For 2 1/2 years they lived with my parents while she

did

> this. He worked 4 months during that time. She got the mortgage in

> her name alone and told him he wasn't moving in with her and the

> kids. He tried to choke her to death. She had bruises all over her

> neck. He got thrown in jail. He called me collect and told me it

was

> her fault. She cheated him out of a house he worked so hard for. He

> expected me to bail him out because he'd " found God. " yeah right.

>

> When the divorce was final she ended up with a $4000 credit card

> bill. He filled out the form and forged her name. She had no idea

he

> had the card at all. The judge told her that since they were

married

> at the time she was finacially responsible.

>

>

> And the reason I think he sounds like Lou is because he honestly

> doesn't understand why he got thrown in jail. It's not his fault.

All

> the money problems aren't his fault either. He needed the

satellite,

> the shopsmith, the 63 Mustang, etc. etc. etc.... After all,

> they " gave " him a credit card. They shouldn't have done that if he

> couldn't afford to make the payments.

>

>

> Tina

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> There were very good things that came out of my marriage.

> 1. I learned exactly what I didn't want and did want in a husband,

> and to not settle for less than what I found acceptable. I learned

> to be very picky...and never expected anyone to change for me.

> 2. I had a drinking problem at the time...a mild one. I earned a

> great distain for drunks and kept myself sober, even if at the time

> it was only because SOMEBODY had to be responsible. Had I been

> using, I'm sure I'd have been in jail right along with him...or dead.

> 3 I learned a bad relationship is NEVER EVER EVER better than being

> alone. I learned to like myself quite a bit, and actually became

> accustomed to being single.

>

You learned wisdom, , and that really is worth some bad experiences

(not sure you learn it any other way).

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" I learned a bad relationship is NEVER EVER EVER better than being

> alone. I learned to like myself quite a bit, and actually became

> accustomed to being single. "

, THIS was the defining revelation for me. I learned that

being alone was much better than being with him and putting up with

his infidelities and emotional abuse. I could do it on my own and be

just fine. Took me 12 years to figure it out, but I finally did.

Thank God! Some of us just are slow learners, I guess. I just had no

faith in myself and my abilities. Leggs

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Took me 12 years to figure it out, but I finally did.

> Thank God! Some of us just are slow learners, I guess. I just had

no

> faith in myself and my abilities. Leggs

I know how that is Leggs, it took me 7 long years myself..

the screaming, throwing things, making me think

that everything was " my " fault, not coming home till way

after midnight night after night and expecting

dinner to be waiting for him, and having that pit

in my stomach, when i heard his truck pull up, wondering

what kind of mood he was gonna be in...and EVERY time he

would come home that late, he had to make so much noise..

and wake up the kids...rachelle didn't have her own room,

so her crib was in the living room, and the bedrooms were

too small to share, so he'd come home and start talking

to rachelle while she was sleeping...not in a whisper..

but LOUD talking..and i would plead with him, to just

go to sleep...and then the fight would start...I don't

know why he had to do that...so then me and girls would

be up most of the night, and he would go and pass out..

and he'd wake up whenever he felt like it, and wake up

pissed cause the girls were being too LOUD...FN jerk!!!!

He has a drinking/drug problem, but he doesn't think he

does..he's been in jail a few times...a couple time by

me, but then took him back (stupid!!!)I left him when rachelle

was about 10months old..i just couldnt handle it anymore,

taking care of the baby, and all of jenna's problems...and

having HIM to deal with on top of everything else..

there is so much to my story, it would be way to long to

write...But i finally left and am soooo glad i did..I live

upstairs in an apartment now, and sometimes at night, i'll

hear a truck pull up and then someone comes up the stairs (to

go to their own apartment) and i STILL get that pit in my

stomach that its him, and i have to wake myself up really good

to realize its not him, that we are safe and alone....I really,

really hate that...im hoping someday that feeling goes away.

It's very hard being a single mom, but its sooo much better than

what it was....I still have alot of self-esteem issues myself,

cause he really play with my head with those. So, im still looking

to find out who " I " am...but too busy with the kids for that

right now...but im sure one day, it will come. Its gonna take

a long time to find " trust " in anyone again...with all this

baggage i have...

nancy...who didn't mean for this to become so long...

single mom to:

joshua 15 (nt)

jenna 6 (autism, ocd)

rachelle 2

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What a nightmare!!

I am so glad you both got out of those destructive relationsships. It

certianly shows your strenght!

I will sit quietly and not complain about my dh, and his annoying

habits..at least for a few days. :)

Libby

> LMAO!

> And remember this is the short version. LOL! The entire family is

full of

> nutjobs.

>

> Leggs was talking about how her ex stole from boxcars...my ex broke

into his

> uncles house next door while they were on vacation and stole their

VCRs and

> some other stuff because he was pissed off that his uncle was

holding up the

> inheratance on the property that he was supposed to get from his

grandmother

> when she died. I still don't know if that has been settled. He

wanted the

> house and land for whatever reason when he was given a huge chunk

of the

> land and he never did anything with it. I still don't understand

what all

> that was about.

>

> Oh, other things...guy was a total control freak. One example, when

I was

> living with him he did something to the phone where you needed a

special

> chip to use it so I could never use the phone. Dinner had to be on

the

> table when he got home from work, didn't matter when he got home.

>

> This part is good too. You will get a laugh out of this (and not

one of

> those good laughs either. I am talking about the kind that you

reserve for

> the pathetic sorts you see on Springer). The guy got involved with

the

> local satanic cult that was in the area. That is a story in its

own right.

>

> Then there was the verbal abuse. That part, I look back on now and

I wonder

> why I put up with that. It was bad. There was a lot of damage done

there.

>

> I won't even get into the verbal abuse that I put up with from his

mother.

>

> Every so often I wonder if he ever got married or if he found a

girlfriend

> that will put up with his crap and that of his demented family

>

> Georga

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> > In a message dated 4/24/03 8:20:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > jorghahaq@c... writes:

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> > > He spent two weeks stalking me after that. At one point

through all

> this he

> > > had even held a gun to my head and threatened to kill me.

> >

> > I don't know girls we may have a new winner over Lou.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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, I have decided that it is just that we were such good people

that we could not believe that someone would intentionally make us

unhappy and be happy about how that made THEM feel. These guys were

users who we enabled by trying to make things right for them. The

only thing that makes them happy is to make someone else dependent on

them and then make their life a living hell. It is an ego boost for

them. You ARE better off alone with the girls, even if it is a

financial hardship and emotionally taxing. We know it could be a LOT

worse, because we have been there. Thank God my ex and I never had

any kids! It took real courage for you to leave, but I will bet you

did it more for the girls than for yourself, didn't you?

About trusting someone new: it does take a while, but there are guys

you can trust out there. When my current husband told me that he

loved me after about a month of dating, I snapped back with, " yeah,

right! And how many women have you told THAT? " (he was a 40 year old

bachelor and I figured he's had to be a real operator to stay single

all of those years.) He looked at me with big, shocked eyes and

said, " I've NEVER told anyone that before! " I felt like SHIT! Turns

out he was painfully shy and just never really knew how to approach

girls or women. He is a delightful change from the last one who had

never met a woman who didn't like him. And Dave (the new dh) is very

receptive to suggestions for improvement, which Stan (the first dh)

would have just laughed at and told me it was " my problem. " Hang in

there, kiddo, it DOES get better....Leggs

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LOL....It cracks me up. Jeff and I are lucky to ever be alone for more than 15

minutes! and if we are so lucky and the kids are asleep then so am I! And

getting a babysitter is crazy. Who would do that for me on a weekly basis? As

for staying in and watching a movie.....we do that and get interupted a million

times during the movie. But hey I don't live the fairytale life. Heck I dont

even live the normal life. ;)

Jacquie H

Re: Re: Worst Ex-Husband Award Is Now Accepting

Candidates

Irony: the Flylady list is going on and on right now about the rejuvenating

powers of a clean home and a date night, and how they will solve your

marriage woes.

Jeex, if only someone had told you that sooner, hmmm?

She's a good housecleaner, but the bitch is delusional.

Jacquie

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