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Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

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Hi Edith and Sharon

I replied to Sharon on her individual email address and here is what I said

(like you Edith I asked De Smet why the BHR would avoid the tendons rubbing and

as you can see below he does not really have a good answer to that question):

Hi Edith

just read your email on surfacehippy and thought I would respond personaly.

Oh boy, I know what you are and were going through and I wish you courage and

that you can find a solution quickly.

My story is a bit similar to yours although more recent.

I had a BHR in Belgium (with Dr De Smet) on January 6 2004 and have never been

out of pain since then. It is somewhat different kind of pain as before surgery

(I had severe osteoarthritis). i am from Canada and went to Belgium cause here

they were not doing the resurf. and also there is a 2 year waiting list...

De Smet (corresponding through email so I have not seen him in person since

surgery time) thinks it might be tendons rubbing against prosthesis but a

surgeon I saw here thinks it might be AVN (avascular necrosis). It sounds a lot

like you. So I know how you feel and it is soooooooooooo depressing. But there

is fortunately the solution of a THR that hopefully would solve the problem.

I asked De Smet about the size of the THR: if they leave the acetabulum cup in

there and place a corresponding size THR (big ball) why would it be any

different in terms of tendons rubbing against prosthesis??? he said that the THR

head edge is not as sharp as the BHR but he said he would check with the company

that builds the BHR/THR. But the company was not interested in that problem and

there is not a good answer to that; De Smet said that there is not yet enough

people /data to know the results... Not fun to be a guinea pig. Anyway did Dr Mc

Minn say anything about that? Of course if the problem is AVN then the THR would

sove the problem.

AS far as several revisions, I think that the THR metal on metal should last as

long as a BHR unless there was loosening which could happen on a BHR also. They

don't have the data here either but metal on metal in theory should last a life

time and more...

Did you have a bonescan or any other tests (blood for infection?). I had the

bonescan which did not show anything but you cannot tell under the BHR cup. and

my blood test do not show any infection. Did they talk about possible loosening

of one component?

Who is going to do your THR? is he/she going to leave the acetabulum cup in?

Overall from what you said in the first email, I think the THR will be the

solution for you eventhough it seems so unfair and scary.

I would trust Dr Mc MInn like you said you do. He is certainly an authority on

this subject.

I wish I could help more but feel free to email when you want.

Sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

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Hi

thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar problem as

Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a THR with keeping the

acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup.

Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of rubbing

as the BHR?

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

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Hi

thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar problem as

Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a THR with keeping the

acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup.

Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of rubbing

as the BHR?

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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As requested here is a list OS having a go at answering..

It is possible your BHR used a 'dysplasia cup' which has a couple of

large bolts to help hold it in a shallow dysplastic acetabulum - these

can often rub on the ilio-psoas tendon which runs over them. It may be

possible to remove the bolts only [they don't come out easily] as the

cup should now be firmly fixed. If you do have AVN of your femoral head

underneath your femoral cup then revision to a THR would solve that

problem. There are few reports of this - but if anyone would know it is

Mr McMinn. I am guessing he actually planning to revise your BHR to a

'modular' or 'hybrid' BHR - that is keeping your acetabulum [+/- bolts]

and putting a modular BHR head on a THR stem - this is a very simple

procedure most commonly performed if an individual has a neck of femur

fracture after a BHR or for AVN where the patient & OS want to use the

large metal-metal BHR bearing.

It may be worth having another consultation with Mr McMinn - I would be

surprised if he was really intending to revise the whole thing to a THR.

Good Luck!

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

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As requested here is a list OS having a go at answering..

It is possible your BHR used a 'dysplasia cup' which has a couple of

large bolts to help hold it in a shallow dysplastic acetabulum - these

can often rub on the ilio-psoas tendon which runs over them. It may be

possible to remove the bolts only [they don't come out easily] as the

cup should now be firmly fixed. If you do have AVN of your femoral head

underneath your femoral cup then revision to a THR would solve that

problem. There are few reports of this - but if anyone would know it is

Mr McMinn. I am guessing he actually planning to revise your BHR to a

'modular' or 'hybrid' BHR - that is keeping your acetabulum [+/- bolts]

and putting a modular BHR head on a THR stem - this is a very simple

procedure most commonly performed if an individual has a neck of femur

fracture after a BHR or for AVN where the patient & OS want to use the

large metal-metal BHR bearing.

It may be worth having another consultation with Mr McMinn - I would be

surprised if he was really intending to revise the whole thing to a THR.

Good Luck!

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

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Dear Sunita, Sharon and Edith,

Most interested in this correspondence as I may be facing a revision as

well, as some of you know. I seem to have a 'low level infection'.

This does not show up in my blood tests, except in raised inflammation

levels. It was only discovered after they did an aspiration -withdrew

some synovial fluid and tested that. And even with this, it only showed

when they enriched the culture. It is an enterobacter cloasae, a

bacterium from the bowel. They are still taking advice about an

appropriate antibiotic. My main symptom is severe pain at night when

the synovial fluid accumulates. I occasionally have pain during the day

but very little. The night pain wakes me up. If they cannot clear the

infection, than I need a revision to a THR.

But it interests me that they didn't suggest a bone scan for me, or in

the case of you Sunita, an aspiration. Perhaps it is the nature of the

pain-my OS kept saying that his main clue to infection was the presence

of night pain.

While I am waiting for antibiotics, I am trying a homeopathic remedy.

Might as well have a shot at anything that might work. I do hope I can

keep this hip.

Eleanor

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Hi Edith and Sharon

I replied to Sharon on her individual email address and here is what I

said (like you Edith I asked De Smet why the BHR would avoid the tendons

rubbing and as you can see below he does not really have a good answer

to that question):

Hi Edith

just read your email on surfacehippy and thought I would respond

personaly.

Oh boy, I know what you are and were going through and I wish you

courage and that you can find a solution quickly.

My story is a bit similar to yours although more recent.

I had a BHR in Belgium (with Dr De Smet) on January 6 2004 and have

never been out of pain since then. It is somewhat different kind of pain

as before surgery (I had severe osteoarthritis). i am from Canada and

went to Belgium cause here they were not doing the resurf. and also

there is a 2 year waiting list...

De Smet (corresponding through email so I have not seen him in person

since surgery time) thinks it might be tendons rubbing against

prosthesis but a surgeon I saw here thinks it might be AVN (avascular

necrosis). It sounds a lot like you. So I know how you feel and it is

soooooooooooo depressing. But there is fortunately the solution of a THR

that hopefully would solve the problem.

I asked De Smet about the size of the THR: if they leave the acetabulum

cup in there and place a corresponding size THR (big ball) why would it

be any different in terms of tendons rubbing against prosthesis??? he

said that the THR head edge is not as sharp as the BHR but he said he

would check with the company that builds the BHR/THR. But the company

was not interested in that problem and there is not a good answer to

that; De Smet said that there is not yet enough people /data to know the

results... Not fun to be a guinea pig. Anyway did Dr Mc Minn say

anything about that? Of course if the problem is AVN then the THR would

sove the problem.

AS far as several revisions, I think that the THR metal on metal should

last as long as a BHR unless there was loosening which could happen on a

BHR also. They don't have the data here either but metal on metal in

theory should last a life time and more...

Did you have a bonescan or any other tests (blood for infection?). I had

the bonescan which did not show anything but you cannot tell under the

BHR cup. and my blood test do not show any infection. Did they talk

about possible loosening of one component?

Who is going to do your THR? is he/she going to leave the acetabulum cup

in?

Overall from what you said in the first email, I think the THR will be

the solution for you eventhough it seems so unfair and scary.

I would trust Dr Mc MInn like you said you do. He is certainly an

authority on this subject.

I wish I could help more but feel free to email when you want.

Sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for 2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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Hi Sunita

I think Eleanor answers the question as well as it can be

answered - the iliopsoas tendon usually rubs on the femoral neck - there

is a bursa there to reduce friction. In a BHR there is metal - and

though the capsule and bursa reform, there may still be discomfort -

especially if the edge of the cup or heads oft eh bolts in the dysplasia

cup - are projecting. The THR has a non-anatomical narrow neck - so this

is less of a problem.

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi

thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar

problem as Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a

THR with keeping the acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup.

Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of

rubbing as the BHR?

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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Hi Sunita

I think Eleanor answers the question as well as it can be

answered - the iliopsoas tendon usually rubs on the femoral neck - there

is a bursa there to reduce friction. In a BHR there is metal - and

though the capsule and bursa reform, there may still be discomfort -

especially if the edge of the cup or heads oft eh bolts in the dysplasia

cup - are projecting. The THR has a non-anatomical narrow neck - so this

is less of a problem.

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi

thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar

problem as Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a

THR with keeping the acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup.

Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of

rubbing as the BHR?

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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Hi Sunita

I think Eleanor answers the question as well as it can be

answered - the iliopsoas tendon usually rubs on the femoral neck - there

is a bursa there to reduce friction. In a BHR there is metal - and

though the capsule and bursa reform, there may still be discomfort -

especially if the edge of the cup or heads oft eh bolts in the dysplasia

cup - are projecting. The THR has a non-anatomical narrow neck - so this

is less of a problem.

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi

thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar

problem as Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a

THR with keeping the acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup.

Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of

rubbing as the BHR?

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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Hi

I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so

insistant!_:

if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't have

bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would not that

same cup still be a problem??

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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Hi

I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so

insistant!_:

if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't have

bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would not that

same cup still be a problem??

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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Dear Sunita

In that case - yes - most likely. That said, revision to a device with a

replacement neck may alter the mechanics enough to sole the problem. It

is possible to inject the iliopsoas bursa [containing the tendon] under

X ray guidance with X ray contrast medium [to show it up] and local

anaesthetic. If that abolishes the pain it confirms it is coming from

the iliopsoas. It might also be possible to see what the tendon is

catching on. One option for a snapping tendon is to release the tendon -

as long as the muscular portion is intact strength will recover. This

operation is more commonly performed by sports surgeons or hip

arthroscopists than joint replacement specialists. It is a lot smaller

procedure than a revision joint replacement.

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi

I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so

insistant!_:

if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't

have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would

not that same cup still be a problem??

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect

you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That

is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great!

At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born

with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in

at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After

12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one

for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought

my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number

of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust

his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only

way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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Dear Sunita

In that case - yes - most likely. That said, revision to a device with a

replacement neck may alter the mechanics enough to sole the problem. It

is possible to inject the iliopsoas bursa [containing the tendon] under

X ray guidance with X ray contrast medium [to show it up] and local

anaesthetic. If that abolishes the pain it confirms it is coming from

the iliopsoas. It might also be possible to see what the tendon is

catching on. One option for a snapping tendon is to release the tendon -

as long as the muscular portion is intact strength will recover. This

operation is more commonly performed by sports surgeons or hip

arthroscopists than joint replacement specialists. It is a lot smaller

procedure than a revision joint replacement.

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi

I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so

insistant!_:

if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't

have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would

not that same cup still be a problem??

thanks

sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect

you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That

is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great!

At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born

with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in

at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After

12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one

for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought

my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number

of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust

his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only

way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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Hey ! What a wonderful person you are to be our consulting

physician on this website! Thank you sooo much! I'm sure Sunita

would rather have a tendon release than a revision! Honestly

...we wouldn't have known that any of that was even possible if

it had not been for your input!!! OK , I have a question for you

that I had been speculating about for awhile now...I'm 51, have

primary protrusio acetabulum with OA....it's progressing pretty darn

fast now...I've sent my x-rays to De Smet and he says resurfing is

best for me...don't know who to go to or when...ok..the question...I

have been taking fosomax as kind-of a precautionary measure...will it

predispose me to heterotopic ossification? Maybe that's a stupid

question but I've been wondering? Thanks, . Susie in Memphis

-- In surfacehippy , " Brockwell "

wrote:

> Dear Sunita

>

> In that case - yes - most likely. That said, revision to a device

with a

> replacement neck may alter the mechanics enough to sole the

problem. It

> is possible to inject the iliopsoas bursa [containing the tendon]

under

> X ray guidance with X ray contrast medium [to show it up] and local

> anaesthetic. If that abolishes the pain it confirms it is coming

from

> the iliopsoas. It might also be possible to see what the tendon is

> catching on. One option for a snapping tendon is to release the

tendon -

> as long as the muscular portion is intact strength will recover.

This

> operation is more commonly performed by sports surgeons or hip

> arthroscopists than joint replacement specialists. It is a lot

smaller

> procedure than a revision joint replacement.

>

>

>

> Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

>

> Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

>

> SportsmedHK

>

> Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

>

> 715 Jardine House

>

> Central

>

> Hong Kong

>

> Tel + 852 2715 4577

>

> Fax +852 2716 4577

>

> Mob +852 6050 1351

>

>

>

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

>

>

>

> Hi

> I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be

so

> insistant!_:

> if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I

don't

> have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR,

would

> not that same cup still be a problem??

> thanks

> sunita

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old

female UK

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I

suspect

> you

> are

> in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance

to

> you...............

>

> We have another poster here with hassles that could be related

to

> metal

> impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well

see

> this

> and

> comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

> weeks...........

>

> I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list

OS's to

> explain

> why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having

the

> BHR

> replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way

of

> stretching

> these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia

and

> lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

> stretched.........?

> And

> why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

>

> On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your

original

> surgeon

> migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread

him

> practicing

> here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

> country

> where

> so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

>

> Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

> with

> hip

> problems having had them for most of your life it seems.......

That

> is

> very

> annoying I know from personal experience...........

>

> Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how

great!

> At

> least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female,

born

> with

> a

> dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

> have

> suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

> plaster,

> calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis

set in

> at

> 25

> years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

> underwent

> a

> Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

> high

> hopes

> for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

> really

> excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz

Osteotomy in

> Bristol

> or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most

reasonable.

> Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation.

After

> 12

> weeks

> post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2

years

> since

> the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

> carried

> out my

> op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right

one

> for

> me

> (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently

paid

> privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as

I was

> at

> the

> end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

> several

> things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He

thought

> my

> only

> option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave

the

> best

> chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the

number

> of

> revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I

trust

> his

> judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the

only

> way

> forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers

by the

> minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

> following

> BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is

booked

> for

> 2-3

> months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey ! What a wonderful person you are to be our consulting

physician on this website! Thank you sooo much! I'm sure Sunita

would rather have a tendon release than a revision! Honestly

...we wouldn't have known that any of that was even possible if

it had not been for your input!!! OK , I have a question for you

that I had been speculating about for awhile now...I'm 51, have

primary protrusio acetabulum with OA....it's progressing pretty darn

fast now...I've sent my x-rays to De Smet and he says resurfing is

best for me...don't know who to go to or when...ok..the question...I

have been taking fosomax as kind-of a precautionary measure...will it

predispose me to heterotopic ossification? Maybe that's a stupid

question but I've been wondering? Thanks, . Susie in Memphis

-- In surfacehippy , " Brockwell "

wrote:

> Dear Sunita

>

> In that case - yes - most likely. That said, revision to a device

with a

> replacement neck may alter the mechanics enough to sole the

problem. It

> is possible to inject the iliopsoas bursa [containing the tendon]

under

> X ray guidance with X ray contrast medium [to show it up] and local

> anaesthetic. If that abolishes the pain it confirms it is coming

from

> the iliopsoas. It might also be possible to see what the tendon is

> catching on. One option for a snapping tendon is to release the

tendon -

> as long as the muscular portion is intact strength will recover.

This

> operation is more commonly performed by sports surgeons or hip

> arthroscopists than joint replacement specialists. It is a lot

smaller

> procedure than a revision joint replacement.

>

>

>

> Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

>

> Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

>

> SportsmedHK

>

> Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

>

> 715 Jardine House

>

> Central

>

> Hong Kong

>

> Tel + 852 2715 4577

>

> Fax +852 2716 4577

>

> Mob +852 6050 1351

>

>

>

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

>

>

>

> Hi

> I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be

so

> insistant!_:

> if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I

don't

> have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR,

would

> not that same cup still be a problem??

> thanks

> sunita

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old

female UK

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I

suspect

> you

> are

> in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance

to

> you...............

>

> We have another poster here with hassles that could be related

to

> metal

> impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well

see

> this

> and

> comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

> weeks...........

>

> I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list

OS's to

> explain

> why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having

the

> BHR

> replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way

of

> stretching

> these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia

and

> lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

> stretched.........?

> And

> why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

>

> On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your

original

> surgeon

> migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread

him

> practicing

> here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

> country

> where

> so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

>

> Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

> with

> hip

> problems having had them for most of your life it seems.......

That

> is

> very

> annoying I know from personal experience...........

>

> Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how

great!

> At

> least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female,

born

> with

> a

> dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

> have

> suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

> plaster,

> calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis

set in

> at

> 25

> years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

> underwent

> a

> Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

> high

> hopes

> for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

> really

> excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz

Osteotomy in

> Bristol

> or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most

reasonable.

> Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation.

After

> 12

> weeks

> post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2

years

> since

> the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

> carried

> out my

> op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right

one

> for

> me

> (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently

paid

> privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as

I was

> at

> the

> end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

> several

> things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He

thought

> my

> only

> option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave

the

> best

> chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the

number

> of

> revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I

trust

> his

> judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the

only

> way

> forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers

by the

> minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

> following

> BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is

booked

> for

> 2-3

> months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I'll do my best - but I think I will not have time to answer too many

queries.

HO is a bit of a problem in Resurfacing [though getting less with

gentler techniques].

I don't think there is any data on Fosamax and post-operative HO, though

there is one article suggesting that Fosamax can treat certain forms of

HO.

In the absence of firm data I would stop it prior to and for a few

months after the op.

Try visiting Pubmed at www.nlm.nih.gov http://www.nlm.nih.gov/> and

searching the medical literature - if you find anything solid let us

know!

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

>

>

>

> Hi

> I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be

so

> insistant!_:

> if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I

don't

> have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR,

would

> not that same cup still be a problem??

> thanks

> sunita

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old

female UK

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I

suspect

> you

> are

> in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance

to

> you...............

>

> We have another poster here with hassles that could be related

to

> metal

> impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well

see

> this

> and

> comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

> weeks...........

>

> I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list

OS's to

> explain

> why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having

the

> BHR

> replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way

of

> stretching

> these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia

and

> lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

> stretched.........?

> And

> why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

>

> On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your

original

> surgeon

> migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread

him

> practicing

> here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

> country

> where

> so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

>

> Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

> with

> hip

> problems having had them for most of your life it seems.......

That

> is

> very

> annoying I know from personal experience...........

>

> Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how

great!

> At

> least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female,

born

> with

> a

> dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

> have

> suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

> plaster,

> calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis

set in

> at

> 25

> years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

> underwent

> a

> Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

> high

> hopes

> for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

> really

> excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz

Osteotomy in

> Bristol

> or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most

reasonable.

> Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation.

After

> 12

> weeks

> post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2

years

> since

> the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

> carried

> out my

> op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right

one

> for

> me

> (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently

paid

> privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as

I was

> at

> the

> end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

> several

> things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He

thought

> my

> only

> option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave

the

> best

> chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the

number

> of

> revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I

trust

> his

> judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the

only

> way

> forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers

by the

> minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

> following

> BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is

booked

> for

> 2-3

> months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I'll do my best - but I think I will not have time to answer too many

queries.

HO is a bit of a problem in Resurfacing [though getting less with

gentler techniques].

I don't think there is any data on Fosamax and post-operative HO, though

there is one article suggesting that Fosamax can treat certain forms of

HO.

In the absence of firm data I would stop it prior to and for a few

months after the op.

Try visiting Pubmed at www.nlm.nih.gov http://www.nlm.nih.gov/> and

searching the medical literature - if you find anything solid let us

know!

Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

SportsmedHK

Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

715 Jardine House

Central

Hong Kong

Tel + 852 2715 4577

Fax +852 2716 4577

Mob +852 6050 1351

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

>

>

>

> Hi

> I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be

so

> insistant!_:

> if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I

don't

> have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR,

would

> not that same cup still be a problem??

> thanks

> sunita

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old

female UK

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I

suspect

> you

> are

> in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance

to

> you...............

>

> We have another poster here with hassles that could be related

to

> metal

> impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well

see

> this

> and

> comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

> weeks...........

>

> I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list

OS's to

> explain

> why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having

the

> BHR

> replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way

of

> stretching

> these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia

and

> lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

> stretched.........?

> And

> why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

>

> On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your

original

> surgeon

> migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread

him

> practicing

> here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

> country

> where

> so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

>

> Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

> with

> hip

> problems having had them for most of your life it seems.......

That

> is

> very

> annoying I know from personal experience...........

>

> Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how

great!

> At

> least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female,

born

> with

> a

> dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

> have

> suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

> plaster,

> calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis

set in

> at

> 25

> years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

> underwent

> a

> Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

> high

> hopes

> for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

> really

> excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz

Osteotomy in

> Bristol

> or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most

reasonable.

> Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation.

After

> 12

> weeks

> post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2

years

> since

> the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

> carried

> out my

> op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right

one

> for

> me

> (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently

paid

> privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as

I was

> at

> the

> end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

> several

> things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He

thought

> my

> only

> option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave

the

> best

> chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the

number

> of

> revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I

trust

> his

> judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the

only

> way

> forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers

by the

> minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

> following

> BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is

booked

> for

> 2-3

> months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you ! I'll check out the web site you suggested too. You

don't know how appreciative we all are that you are sharing your

knowledge with us...what good is all that knowledge if it's not

shared? eh? I know how busy you physicians are because MY husband is

an internist..he is not very supportive of hip re-surfacing...it's

not done here.. and not open to my questions...I'm educating

him...it's painful but I'm making slow progress! Susie in Memphis

-- In surfacehippy , " Brockwell "

wrote:

> I'll do my best - but I think I will not have time to answer too

many

> queries.

>

> HO is a bit of a problem in Resurfacing [though getting less with

> gentler techniques].

>

> I don't think there is any data on Fosamax and post-operative HO,

though

> there is one article suggesting that Fosamax can treat certain

forms of

> HO.

>

> In the absence of firm data I would stop it prior to and for a few

> months after the op.

>

> Try visiting Pubmed at www.nlm.nih.gov http://www.nlm.nih.gov/>

and

> searching the medical literature - if you find anything solid let us

> know!

>

>

>

> Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

>

> Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

>

> SportsmedHK

>

> Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

>

> 715 Jardine House

>

> Central

>

> Hong Kong

>

> Tel + 852 2715 4577

>

> Fax +852 2716 4577

>

> Mob +852 6050 1351

>

>

>

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female

UK

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi

> > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to

be

> so

> > insistant!_:

> > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case

I

> don't

> > have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement

THR,

> would

> > not that same cup still be a problem??

> > thanks

> > sunita

> > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old

> female UK

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I

> suspect

> > you

> > are

> > in about the best hands you could be if that is any

reassurance

> to

> > you...............

> >

> > We have another poster here with hassles that could be

related

> to

> > metal

> > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may

well

> see

> > this

> > and

> > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

> > weeks...........

> >

> > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list

> OS's to

> > explain

> > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by

having

> the

> > BHR

> > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some

way

> of

> > stretching

> > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the

bursia

> and

> > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

> > stretched.........?

> > And

> > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as

well??

> >

> > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your

> original

> > surgeon

> > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread

> him

> > practicing

> > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

> > country

> > where

> > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

> >

> > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed

up

> > with

> > hip

> > problems having had them for most of your life it

seems.......

> That

> > is

> > very

> > annoying I know from personal experience...........

> >

> > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> >

> > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how

> great!

> > At

> > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female,

> born

> > with

> > a

> > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and

bascially

> > have

> > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in

traction,

> > plaster,

> > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis

> set in

> > at

> > 25

> > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

> > underwent

> > a

> > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really

had

> > high

> > hopes

> > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

> > really

> > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz

> Osteotomy in

> > Bristol

> > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most

> reasonable.

> > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation.

> After

> > 12

> > weeks

> > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2

> years

> > since

> > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

> > carried

> > out my

> > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the

right

> one

> > for

> > me

> > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I

recently

> paid

> > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion

as

> I was

> > at

> > the

> > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

> > several

> > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He

> thought

> > my

> > only

> > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this

gave

> the

> > best

> > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the

> number

> > of

> > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I

> trust

> > his

> > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the

> only

> > way

> > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers

> by the

> > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine -

THR

> > following

> > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is

> booked

> > for

> > 2-3

> > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you ! I'll check out the web site you suggested too. You

don't know how appreciative we all are that you are sharing your

knowledge with us...what good is all that knowledge if it's not

shared? eh? I know how busy you physicians are because MY husband is

an internist..he is not very supportive of hip re-surfacing...it's

not done here.. and not open to my questions...I'm educating

him...it's painful but I'm making slow progress! Susie in Memphis

-- In surfacehippy , " Brockwell "

wrote:

> I'll do my best - but I think I will not have time to answer too

many

> queries.

>

> HO is a bit of a problem in Resurfacing [though getting less with

> gentler techniques].

>

> I don't think there is any data on Fosamax and post-operative HO,

though

> there is one article suggesting that Fosamax can treat certain

forms of

> HO.

>

> In the absence of firm data I would stop it prior to and for a few

> months after the op.

>

> Try visiting Pubmed at www.nlm.nih.gov http://www.nlm.nih.gov/>

and

> searching the medical literature - if you find anything solid let us

> know!

>

>

>

> Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth

>

> Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery

>

> SportsmedHK

>

> Hong Kong Surgical Specialists

>

> 715 Jardine House

>

> Central

>

> Hong Kong

>

> Tel + 852 2715 4577

>

> Fax +852 2716 4577

>

> Mob +852 6050 1351

>

>

>

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female

UK

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi

> > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to

be

> so

> > insistant!_:

> > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case

I

> don't

> > have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement

THR,

> would

> > not that same cup still be a problem??

> > thanks

> > sunita

> > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old

> female UK

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I

> suspect

> > you

> > are

> > in about the best hands you could be if that is any

reassurance

> to

> > you...............

> >

> > We have another poster here with hassles that could be

related

> to

> > metal

> > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may

well

> see

> > this

> > and

> > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

> > weeks...........

> >

> > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list

> OS's to

> > explain

> > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by

having

> the

> > BHR

> > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some

way

> of

> > stretching

> > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the

bursia

> and

> > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

> > stretched.........?

> > And

> > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as

well??

> >

> > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your

> original

> > surgeon

> > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread

> him

> > practicing

> > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

> > country

> > where

> > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

> >

> > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed

up

> > with

> > hip

> > problems having had them for most of your life it

seems.......

> That

> > is

> > very

> > annoying I know from personal experience...........

> >

> > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> >

> > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how

> great!

> > At

> > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female,

> born

> > with

> > a

> > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and

bascially

> > have

> > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in

traction,

> > plaster,

> > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis

> set in

> > at

> > 25

> > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

> > underwent

> > a

> > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really

had

> > high

> > hopes

> > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

> > really

> > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz

> Osteotomy in

> > Bristol

> > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most

> reasonable.

> > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation.

> After

> > 12

> > weeks

> > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2

> years

> > since

> > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

> > carried

> > out my

> > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the

right

> one

> > for

> > me

> > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I

recently

> paid

> > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion

as

> I was

> > at

> > the

> > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

> > several

> > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He

> thought

> > my

> > only

> > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this

gave

> the

> > best

> > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the

> number

> > of

> > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I

> trust

> > his

> > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the

> only

> > way

> > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers

> by the

> > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine -

THR

> > following

> > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is

> booked

> > for

> > 2-3

> > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Sunita,

I've just come back to reading the group mails after an absence and

was very upset to learn of your problems. I do hope that they get

sorted out and that your current line of inquiry is successful.

Chris.

> Hi

> I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be

so insistant!_:

> if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I

don't have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement

THR, would not that same cup still be a problem??

> thanks

> sunita

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old

female UK

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I

suspect you

> are

> in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance

to

> you...............

>

> We have another poster here with hassles that could be related

to

> metal

> impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well

see

> this

> and

> comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

> weeks...........

>

> I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list

OS's to

> explain

> why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having

the

> BHR

> replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way

of

> stretching

> these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia

and

> lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched....

......?

> And

> why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

>

> On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your

original

> surgeon

> migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread

him

> practicing

> here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

country

> where

> so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

>

> Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

with

> hip

> problems having had them for most of your life it seems.......

That is

> very

> annoying I know from personal experience...........

>

> Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how

great! At

> least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female,

born with

> a

> dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

have

> suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

> plaster,

> calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set

in at

> 25

> years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

underwent

> a

> Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

high

> hopes

> for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

really

> excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz

Osteotomy in

> Bristol

> or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most

reasonable.

> Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation.

After 12

> weeks

> post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2

years

> since

> the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

carried

> out my

> op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right

one for

> me

> (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently

paid

> privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I

was

> at

> the

> end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

several

> things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He

thought my

> only

> option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave

the

> best

> chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the

number of

> revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I

trust his

> judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the

only way

> forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by

the

> minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

> following

> BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is

booked

> for

> 2-3

> months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Sunita,

I've just come back to reading the group mails after an absence and

was very upset to learn of your problems. I do hope that they get

sorted out and that your current line of inquiry is successful.

Chris.

> Hi

> I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be

so insistant!_:

> if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I

don't have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement

THR, would not that same cup still be a problem??

> thanks

> sunita

> Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old

female UK

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I

suspect you

> are

> in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance

to

> you...............

>

> We have another poster here with hassles that could be related

to

> metal

> impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well

see

> this

> and

> comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

> weeks...........

>

> I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list

OS's to

> explain

> why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having

the

> BHR

> replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way

of

> stretching

> these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia

and

> lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched....

......?

> And

> why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

>

> On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your

original

> surgeon

> migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread

him

> practicing

> here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

country

> where

> so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

>

> Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

with

> hip

> problems having had them for most of your life it seems.......

That is

> very

> annoying I know from personal experience...........

>

> Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

>

> > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how

great! At

> least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female,

born with

> a

> dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

have

> suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

> plaster,

> calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set

in at

> 25

> years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

underwent

> a

> Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

high

> hopes

> for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

really

> excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz

Osteotomy in

> Bristol

> or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most

reasonable.

> Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation.

After 12

> weeks

> post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2

years

> since

> the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

carried

> out my

> op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right

one for

> me

> (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently

paid

> privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I

was

> at

> the

> end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

several

> things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He

thought my

> only

> option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave

the

> best

> chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the

number of

> revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I

trust his

> judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the

only way

> forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by

the

> minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

> following

> BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is

booked

> for

> 2-3

> months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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thanks . It helps so much to have the maximum information cause the whole

thing seems so new and not yet studied very much! Unfortunately there are a few

failed BHR and it has to be someone... I never thought it would be me of course!

Sunita

Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK

Hi,

Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect

you

are

in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to

you...............

We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to

metal

impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see

this

and

comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few

weeks...........

I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to

explain

why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the

BHR

replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of

stretching

these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and

lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if

stretched.........?

And

why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well??

On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original

surgeon

migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him

practicing

here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the

country

where

so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle.............

Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up

with

hip

problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That

is

very

annoying I know from personal experience...........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great!

At

least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born

with

a

dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially

have

suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction,

plaster,

calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in

at

25

years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I

underwent

a

Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had

high

hopes

for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were

really

excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in

Bristol

or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable.

Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After

12

weeks

post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years

since

the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who

carried

out my

op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one

for

me

(his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid

privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was

at

the

end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of

several

things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought

my

only

option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the

best

chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number

of

revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust

his

judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only

way

forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the

minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR

following

BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked

for

2-3

months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance.

>

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