Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi Edith and Sharon I replied to Sharon on her individual email address and here is what I said (like you Edith I asked De Smet why the BHR would avoid the tendons rubbing and as you can see below he does not really have a good answer to that question): Hi Edith just read your email on surfacehippy and thought I would respond personaly. Oh boy, I know what you are and were going through and I wish you courage and that you can find a solution quickly. My story is a bit similar to yours although more recent. I had a BHR in Belgium (with Dr De Smet) on January 6 2004 and have never been out of pain since then. It is somewhat different kind of pain as before surgery (I had severe osteoarthritis). i am from Canada and went to Belgium cause here they were not doing the resurf. and also there is a 2 year waiting list... De Smet (corresponding through email so I have not seen him in person since surgery time) thinks it might be tendons rubbing against prosthesis but a surgeon I saw here thinks it might be AVN (avascular necrosis). It sounds a lot like you. So I know how you feel and it is soooooooooooo depressing. But there is fortunately the solution of a THR that hopefully would solve the problem. I asked De Smet about the size of the THR: if they leave the acetabulum cup in there and place a corresponding size THR (big ball) why would it be any different in terms of tendons rubbing against prosthesis??? he said that the THR head edge is not as sharp as the BHR but he said he would check with the company that builds the BHR/THR. But the company was not interested in that problem and there is not a good answer to that; De Smet said that there is not yet enough people /data to know the results... Not fun to be a guinea pig. Anyway did Dr Mc Minn say anything about that? Of course if the problem is AVN then the THR would sove the problem. AS far as several revisions, I think that the THR metal on metal should last as long as a BHR unless there was loosening which could happen on a BHR also. They don't have the data here either but metal on metal in theory should last a life time and more... Did you have a bonescan or any other tests (blood for infection?). I had the bonescan which did not show anything but you cannot tell under the BHR cup. and my blood test do not show any infection. Did they talk about possible loosening of one component? Who is going to do your THR? is he/she going to leave the acetabulum cup in? Overall from what you said in the first email, I think the THR will be the solution for you eventhough it seems so unfair and scary. I would trust Dr Mc MInn like you said you do. He is certainly an authority on this subject. I wish I could help more but feel free to email when you want. Sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar problem as Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a THR with keeping the acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup. Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of rubbing as the BHR? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar problem as Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a THR with keeping the acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup. Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of rubbing as the BHR? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 As requested here is a list OS having a go at answering.. It is possible your BHR used a 'dysplasia cup' which has a couple of large bolts to help hold it in a shallow dysplastic acetabulum - these can often rub on the ilio-psoas tendon which runs over them. It may be possible to remove the bolts only [they don't come out easily] as the cup should now be firmly fixed. If you do have AVN of your femoral head underneath your femoral cup then revision to a THR would solve that problem. There are few reports of this - but if anyone would know it is Mr McMinn. I am guessing he actually planning to revise your BHR to a 'modular' or 'hybrid' BHR - that is keeping your acetabulum [+/- bolts] and putting a modular BHR head on a THR stem - this is a very simple procedure most commonly performed if an individual has a neck of femur fracture after a BHR or for AVN where the patient & OS want to use the large metal-metal BHR bearing. It may be worth having another consultation with Mr McMinn - I would be surprised if he was really intending to revise the whole thing to a THR. Good Luck! Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 As requested here is a list OS having a go at answering.. It is possible your BHR used a 'dysplasia cup' which has a couple of large bolts to help hold it in a shallow dysplastic acetabulum - these can often rub on the ilio-psoas tendon which runs over them. It may be possible to remove the bolts only [they don't come out easily] as the cup should now be firmly fixed. If you do have AVN of your femoral head underneath your femoral cup then revision to a THR would solve that problem. There are few reports of this - but if anyone would know it is Mr McMinn. I am guessing he actually planning to revise your BHR to a 'modular' or 'hybrid' BHR - that is keeping your acetabulum [+/- bolts] and putting a modular BHR head on a THR stem - this is a very simple procedure most commonly performed if an individual has a neck of femur fracture after a BHR or for AVN where the patient & OS want to use the large metal-metal BHR bearing. It may be worth having another consultation with Mr McMinn - I would be surprised if he was really intending to revise the whole thing to a THR. Good Luck! Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Dear Sunita, Sharon and Edith, Most interested in this correspondence as I may be facing a revision as well, as some of you know. I seem to have a 'low level infection'. This does not show up in my blood tests, except in raised inflammation levels. It was only discovered after they did an aspiration -withdrew some synovial fluid and tested that. And even with this, it only showed when they enriched the culture. It is an enterobacter cloasae, a bacterium from the bowel. They are still taking advice about an appropriate antibiotic. My main symptom is severe pain at night when the synovial fluid accumulates. I occasionally have pain during the day but very little. The night pain wakes me up. If they cannot clear the infection, than I need a revision to a THR. But it interests me that they didn't suggest a bone scan for me, or in the case of you Sunita, an aspiration. Perhaps it is the nature of the pain-my OS kept saying that his main clue to infection was the presence of night pain. While I am waiting for antibiotics, I am trying a homeopathic remedy. Might as well have a shot at anything that might work. I do hope I can keep this hip. Eleanor Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi Edith and Sharon I replied to Sharon on her individual email address and here is what I said (like you Edith I asked De Smet why the BHR would avoid the tendons rubbing and as you can see below he does not really have a good answer to that question): Hi Edith just read your email on surfacehippy and thought I would respond personaly. Oh boy, I know what you are and were going through and I wish you courage and that you can find a solution quickly. My story is a bit similar to yours although more recent. I had a BHR in Belgium (with Dr De Smet) on January 6 2004 and have never been out of pain since then. It is somewhat different kind of pain as before surgery (I had severe osteoarthritis). i am from Canada and went to Belgium cause here they were not doing the resurf. and also there is a 2 year waiting list... De Smet (corresponding through email so I have not seen him in person since surgery time) thinks it might be tendons rubbing against prosthesis but a surgeon I saw here thinks it might be AVN (avascular necrosis). It sounds a lot like you. So I know how you feel and it is soooooooooooo depressing. But there is fortunately the solution of a THR that hopefully would solve the problem. I asked De Smet about the size of the THR: if they leave the acetabulum cup in there and place a corresponding size THR (big ball) why would it be any different in terms of tendons rubbing against prosthesis??? he said that the THR head edge is not as sharp as the BHR but he said he would check with the company that builds the BHR/THR. But the company was not interested in that problem and there is not a good answer to that; De Smet said that there is not yet enough people /data to know the results... Not fun to be a guinea pig. Anyway did Dr Mc Minn say anything about that? Of course if the problem is AVN then the THR would sove the problem. AS far as several revisions, I think that the THR metal on metal should last as long as a BHR unless there was loosening which could happen on a BHR also. They don't have the data here either but metal on metal in theory should last a life time and more... Did you have a bonescan or any other tests (blood for infection?). I had the bonescan which did not show anything but you cannot tell under the BHR cup. and my blood test do not show any infection. Did they talk about possible loosening of one component? Who is going to do your THR? is he/she going to leave the acetabulum cup in? Overall from what you said in the first email, I think the THR will be the solution for you eventhough it seems so unfair and scary. I would trust Dr Mc MInn like you said you do. He is certainly an authority on this subject. I wish I could help more but feel free to email when you want. Sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hi Sunita I think Eleanor answers the question as well as it can be answered - the iliopsoas tendon usually rubs on the femoral neck - there is a bursa there to reduce friction. In a BHR there is metal - and though the capsule and bursa reform, there may still be discomfort - especially if the edge of the cup or heads oft eh bolts in the dysplasia cup - are projecting. The THR has a non-anatomical narrow neck - so this is less of a problem. Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar problem as Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a THR with keeping the acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup. Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of rubbing as the BHR? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hi Sunita I think Eleanor answers the question as well as it can be answered - the iliopsoas tendon usually rubs on the femoral neck - there is a bursa there to reduce friction. In a BHR there is metal - and though the capsule and bursa reform, there may still be discomfort - especially if the edge of the cup or heads oft eh bolts in the dysplasia cup - are projecting. The THR has a non-anatomical narrow neck - so this is less of a problem. Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar problem as Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a THR with keeping the acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup. Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of rubbing as the BHR? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hi Sunita I think Eleanor answers the question as well as it can be answered - the iliopsoas tendon usually rubs on the femoral neck - there is a bursa there to reduce friction. In a BHR there is metal - and though the capsule and bursa reform, there may still be discomfort - especially if the edge of the cup or heads oft eh bolts in the dysplasia cup - are projecting. The THR has a non-anatomical narrow neck - so this is less of a problem. Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi thanks for this explanation. AS you might have read, I have a similar problem as Sharon and Dr De Smet as been talking about replacing to a THR with keeping the acetabular cup. I do not have bolts in the cup. Do you have any info on why the THR would not create the same problem of rubbing as the BHR? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hi I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so insistant!_: if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would not that same cup still be a problem?? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hi I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so insistant!_: if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would not that same cup still be a problem?? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Sunita In that case - yes - most likely. That said, revision to a device with a replacement neck may alter the mechanics enough to sole the problem. It is possible to inject the iliopsoas bursa [containing the tendon] under X ray guidance with X ray contrast medium [to show it up] and local anaesthetic. If that abolishes the pain it confirms it is coming from the iliopsoas. It might also be possible to see what the tendon is catching on. One option for a snapping tendon is to release the tendon - as long as the muscular portion is intact strength will recover. This operation is more commonly performed by sports surgeons or hip arthroscopists than joint replacement specialists. It is a lot smaller procedure than a revision joint replacement. Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so insistant!_: if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would not that same cup still be a problem?? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Sunita In that case - yes - most likely. That said, revision to a device with a replacement neck may alter the mechanics enough to sole the problem. It is possible to inject the iliopsoas bursa [containing the tendon] under X ray guidance with X ray contrast medium [to show it up] and local anaesthetic. If that abolishes the pain it confirms it is coming from the iliopsoas. It might also be possible to see what the tendon is catching on. One option for a snapping tendon is to release the tendon - as long as the muscular portion is intact strength will recover. This operation is more commonly performed by sports surgeons or hip arthroscopists than joint replacement specialists. It is a lot smaller procedure than a revision joint replacement. Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so insistant!_: if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would not that same cup still be a problem?? thanks sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hey ! What a wonderful person you are to be our consulting physician on this website! Thank you sooo much! I'm sure Sunita would rather have a tendon release than a revision! Honestly ...we wouldn't have known that any of that was even possible if it had not been for your input!!! OK , I have a question for you that I had been speculating about for awhile now...I'm 51, have primary protrusio acetabulum with OA....it's progressing pretty darn fast now...I've sent my x-rays to De Smet and he says resurfing is best for me...don't know who to go to or when...ok..the question...I have been taking fosomax as kind-of a precautionary measure...will it predispose me to heterotopic ossification? Maybe that's a stupid question but I've been wondering? Thanks, . Susie in Memphis -- In surfacehippy , " Brockwell " wrote: > Dear Sunita > > In that case - yes - most likely. That said, revision to a device with a > replacement neck may alter the mechanics enough to sole the problem. It > is possible to inject the iliopsoas bursa [containing the tendon] under > X ray guidance with X ray contrast medium [to show it up] and local > anaesthetic. If that abolishes the pain it confirms it is coming from > the iliopsoas. It might also be possible to see what the tendon is > catching on. One option for a snapping tendon is to release the tendon - > as long as the muscular portion is intact strength will recover. This > operation is more commonly performed by sports surgeons or hip > arthroscopists than joint replacement specialists. It is a lot smaller > procedure than a revision joint replacement. > > > > Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth > > Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery > > SportsmedHK > > Hong Kong Surgical Specialists > > 715 Jardine House > > Central > > Hong Kong > > Tel + 852 2715 4577 > > Fax +852 2716 4577 > > Mob +852 6050 1351 > > > > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so > insistant!_: > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't > have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would > not that same cup still be a problem?? > thanks > sunita > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi, > > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect > you > are > in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to > you............... > > We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to > metal > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see > this > and > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few > weeks........... > > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to > explain > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the > BHR > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of > stretching > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if > stretched.........? > And > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? > > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original > surgeon > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him > practicing > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the > country > where > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. > > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up > with > hip > problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That > is > very > annoying I know from personal experience........... > > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! > At > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born > with > a > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially > have > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, > plaster, > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in > at > 25 > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I > underwent > a > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had > high > hopes > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were > really > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in > Bristol > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After > 12 > weeks > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years > since > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who > carried > out my > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one > for > me > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was > at > the > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of > several > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought > my > only > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the > best > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number > of > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust > his > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only > way > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR > following > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked > for > 2-3 > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hey ! What a wonderful person you are to be our consulting physician on this website! Thank you sooo much! I'm sure Sunita would rather have a tendon release than a revision! Honestly ...we wouldn't have known that any of that was even possible if it had not been for your input!!! OK , I have a question for you that I had been speculating about for awhile now...I'm 51, have primary protrusio acetabulum with OA....it's progressing pretty darn fast now...I've sent my x-rays to De Smet and he says resurfing is best for me...don't know who to go to or when...ok..the question...I have been taking fosomax as kind-of a precautionary measure...will it predispose me to heterotopic ossification? Maybe that's a stupid question but I've been wondering? Thanks, . Susie in Memphis -- In surfacehippy , " Brockwell " wrote: > Dear Sunita > > In that case - yes - most likely. That said, revision to a device with a > replacement neck may alter the mechanics enough to sole the problem. It > is possible to inject the iliopsoas bursa [containing the tendon] under > X ray guidance with X ray contrast medium [to show it up] and local > anaesthetic. If that abolishes the pain it confirms it is coming from > the iliopsoas. It might also be possible to see what the tendon is > catching on. One option for a snapping tendon is to release the tendon - > as long as the muscular portion is intact strength will recover. This > operation is more commonly performed by sports surgeons or hip > arthroscopists than joint replacement specialists. It is a lot smaller > procedure than a revision joint replacement. > > > > Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth > > Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery > > SportsmedHK > > Hong Kong Surgical Specialists > > 715 Jardine House > > Central > > Hong Kong > > Tel + 852 2715 4577 > > Fax +852 2716 4577 > > Mob +852 6050 1351 > > > > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so > insistant!_: > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't > have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would > not that same cup still be a problem?? > thanks > sunita > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi, > > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect > you > are > in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to > you............... > > We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to > metal > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see > this > and > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few > weeks........... > > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to > explain > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the > BHR > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of > stretching > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if > stretched.........? > And > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? > > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original > surgeon > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him > practicing > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the > country > where > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. > > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up > with > hip > problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That > is > very > annoying I know from personal experience........... > > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! > At > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born > with > a > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially > have > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, > plaster, > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in > at > 25 > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I > underwent > a > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had > high > hopes > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were > really > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in > Bristol > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After > 12 > weeks > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years > since > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who > carried > out my > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one > for > me > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was > at > the > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of > several > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought > my > only > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the > best > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number > of > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust > his > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only > way > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR > following > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked > for > 2-3 > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 I'll do my best - but I think I will not have time to answer too many queries. HO is a bit of a problem in Resurfacing [though getting less with gentler techniques]. I don't think there is any data on Fosamax and post-operative HO, though there is one article suggesting that Fosamax can treat certain forms of HO. In the absence of firm data I would stop it prior to and for a few months after the op. Try visiting Pubmed at www.nlm.nih.gov http://www.nlm.nih.gov/> and searching the medical literature - if you find anything solid let us know! Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so > insistant!_: > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't > have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would > not that same cup still be a problem?? > thanks > sunita > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi, > > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect > you > are > in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to > you............... > > We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to > metal > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see > this > and > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few > weeks........... > > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to > explain > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the > BHR > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of > stretching > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if > stretched.........? > And > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? > > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original > surgeon > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him > practicing > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the > country > where > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. > > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up > with > hip > problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That > is > very > annoying I know from personal experience........... > > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! > At > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born > with > a > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially > have > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, > plaster, > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in > at > 25 > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I > underwent > a > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had > high > hopes > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were > really > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in > Bristol > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After > 12 > weeks > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years > since > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who > carried > out my > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one > for > me > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was > at > the > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of > several > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought > my > only > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the > best > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number > of > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust > his > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only > way > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR > following > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked > for > 2-3 > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 I'll do my best - but I think I will not have time to answer too many queries. HO is a bit of a problem in Resurfacing [though getting less with gentler techniques]. I don't think there is any data on Fosamax and post-operative HO, though there is one article suggesting that Fosamax can treat certain forms of HO. In the absence of firm data I would stop it prior to and for a few months after the op. Try visiting Pubmed at www.nlm.nih.gov http://www.nlm.nih.gov/> and searching the medical literature - if you find anything solid let us know! Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery SportsmedHK Hong Kong Surgical Specialists 715 Jardine House Central Hong Kong Tel + 852 2715 4577 Fax +852 2716 4577 Mob +852 6050 1351 Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so > insistant!_: > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't > have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would > not that same cup still be a problem?? > thanks > sunita > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi, > > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect > you > are > in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to > you............... > > We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to > metal > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see > this > and > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few > weeks........... > > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to > explain > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the > BHR > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of > stretching > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if > stretched.........? > And > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? > > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original > surgeon > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him > practicing > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the > country > where > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. > > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up > with > hip > problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That > is > very > annoying I know from personal experience........... > > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! > At > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born > with > a > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially > have > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, > plaster, > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in > at > 25 > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I > underwent > a > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had > high > hopes > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were > really > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in > Bristol > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After > 12 > weeks > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years > since > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who > carried > out my > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one > for > me > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was > at > the > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of > several > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought > my > only > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the > best > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number > of > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust > his > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only > way > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR > following > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked > for > 2-3 > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Thank you ! I'll check out the web site you suggested too. You don't know how appreciative we all are that you are sharing your knowledge with us...what good is all that knowledge if it's not shared? eh? I know how busy you physicians are because MY husband is an internist..he is not very supportive of hip re-surfacing...it's not done here.. and not open to my questions...I'm educating him...it's painful but I'm making slow progress! Susie in Memphis -- In surfacehippy , " Brockwell " wrote: > I'll do my best - but I think I will not have time to answer too many > queries. > > HO is a bit of a problem in Resurfacing [though getting less with > gentler techniques]. > > I don't think there is any data on Fosamax and post-operative HO, though > there is one article suggesting that Fosamax can treat certain forms of > HO. > > In the absence of firm data I would stop it prior to and for a few > months after the op. > > Try visiting Pubmed at www.nlm.nih.gov http://www.nlm.nih.gov/> and > searching the medical literature - if you find anything solid let us > know! > > > > Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth > > Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery > > SportsmedHK > > Hong Kong Surgical Specialists > > 715 Jardine House > > Central > > Hong Kong > > Tel + 852 2715 4577 > > Fax +852 2716 4577 > > Mob +852 6050 1351 > > > > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > > > > > Hi > > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be > so > > insistant!_: > > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I > don't > > have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, > would > > not that same cup still be a problem?? > > thanks > > sunita > > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old > female UK > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I > suspect > > you > > are > > in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance > to > > you............... > > > > We have another poster here with hassles that could be related > to > > metal > > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well > see > > this > > and > > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few > > weeks........... > > > > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list > OS's to > > explain > > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having > the > > BHR > > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way > of > > stretching > > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia > and > > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if > > stretched.........? > > And > > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? > > > > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your > original > > surgeon > > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread > him > > practicing > > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the > > country > > where > > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. > > > > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up > > with > > hip > > problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... > That > > is > > very > > annoying I know from personal experience........... > > > > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > > > > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how > great! > > At > > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, > born > > with > > a > > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially > > have > > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, > > plaster, > > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis > set in > > at > > 25 > > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I > > underwent > > a > > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had > > high > > hopes > > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were > > really > > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz > Osteotomy in > > Bristol > > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most > reasonable. > > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. > After > > 12 > > weeks > > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 > years > > since > > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who > > carried > > out my > > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right > one > > for > > me > > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently > paid > > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as > I was > > at > > the > > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of > > several > > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He > thought > > my > > only > > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave > the > > best > > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the > number > > of > > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I > trust > > his > > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the > only > > way > > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers > by the > > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR > > following > > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is > booked > > for > > 2-3 > > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Thank you ! I'll check out the web site you suggested too. You don't know how appreciative we all are that you are sharing your knowledge with us...what good is all that knowledge if it's not shared? eh? I know how busy you physicians are because MY husband is an internist..he is not very supportive of hip re-surfacing...it's not done here.. and not open to my questions...I'm educating him...it's painful but I'm making slow progress! Susie in Memphis -- In surfacehippy , " Brockwell " wrote: > I'll do my best - but I think I will not have time to answer too many > queries. > > HO is a bit of a problem in Resurfacing [though getting less with > gentler techniques]. > > I don't think there is any data on Fosamax and post-operative HO, though > there is one article suggesting that Fosamax can treat certain forms of > HO. > > In the absence of firm data I would stop it prior to and for a few > months after the op. > > Try visiting Pubmed at www.nlm.nih.gov http://www.nlm.nih.gov/> and > searching the medical literature - if you find anything solid let us > know! > > > > Brockwell FRCSEdOrth FHKAMOrth > > Specialist in Orthopaedic Surgery > > SportsmedHK > > Hong Kong Surgical Specialists > > 715 Jardine House > > Central > > Hong Kong > > Tel + 852 2715 4577 > > Fax +852 2716 4577 > > Mob +852 6050 1351 > > > > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > > > > > Hi > > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be > so > > insistant!_: > > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I > don't > > have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, > would > > not that same cup still be a problem?? > > thanks > > sunita > > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old > female UK > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I > suspect > > you > > are > > in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance > to > > you............... > > > > We have another poster here with hassles that could be related > to > > metal > > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well > see > > this > > and > > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few > > weeks........... > > > > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list > OS's to > > explain > > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having > the > > BHR > > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way > of > > stretching > > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia > and > > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if > > stretched.........? > > And > > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? > > > > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your > original > > surgeon > > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread > him > > practicing > > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the > > country > > where > > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. > > > > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up > > with > > hip > > problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... > That > > is > > very > > annoying I know from personal experience........... > > > > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > > > > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how > great! > > At > > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, > born > > with > > a > > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially > > have > > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, > > plaster, > > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis > set in > > at > > 25 > > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I > > underwent > > a > > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had > > high > > hopes > > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were > > really > > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz > Osteotomy in > > Bristol > > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most > reasonable. > > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. > After > > 12 > > weeks > > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 > years > > since > > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who > > carried > > out my > > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right > one > > for > > me > > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently > paid > > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as > I was > > at > > the > > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of > > several > > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He > thought > > my > > only > > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave > the > > best > > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the > number > > of > > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I > trust > > his > > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the > only > > way > > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers > by the > > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR > > following > > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is > booked > > for > > 2-3 > > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Sunita, I've just come back to reading the group mails after an absence and was very upset to learn of your problems. I do hope that they get sorted out and that your current line of inquiry is successful. Chris. > Hi > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so insistant!_: > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would not that same cup still be a problem?? > thanks > sunita > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi, > > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you > are > in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to > you............... > > We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to > metal > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see > this > and > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few > weeks........... > > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to > explain > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the > BHR > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of > stretching > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.... ......? > And > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? > > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original > surgeon > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him > practicing > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country > where > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. > > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with > hip > problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is > very > annoying I know from personal experience........... > > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with > a > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, > plaster, > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at > 25 > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent > a > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high > hopes > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in > Bristol > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 > weeks > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years > since > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried > out my > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for > me > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was > at > the > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my > only > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the > best > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR > following > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked > for > 2-3 > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Sunita, I've just come back to reading the group mails after an absence and was very upset to learn of your problems. I do hope that they get sorted out and that your current line of inquiry is successful. Chris. > Hi > I understand what you say and I still have a question -sorry to be so insistant!_: > if it is the edge of the cup that is the culprit (and in my case I don't have bolts ), and if the cup is kept with the new replacement THR, would not that same cup still be a problem?? > thanks > sunita > Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK > > > > Hi, > > Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you > are > in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to > you............... > > We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to > metal > impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see > this > and > comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few > weeks........... > > I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to > explain > why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the > BHR > replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of > stretching > these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and > lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.... ......? > And > why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? > > On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original > surgeon > migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him > practicing > here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country > where > so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. > > Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with > hip > problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is > very > annoying I know from personal experience........... > > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > > > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At > least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with > a > dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have > suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, > plaster, > calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at > 25 > years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent > a > Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high > hopes > for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really > excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in > Bristol > or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. > Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 > weeks > post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years > since > the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried > out my > op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for > me > (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid > privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was > at > the > end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several > things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my > only > option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the > best > chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of > revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his > judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way > forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the > minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR > following > BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked > for > 2-3 > months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 thanks . It helps so much to have the maximum information cause the whole thing seems so new and not yet studied very much! Unfortunately there are a few failed BHR and it has to be someone... I never thought it would be me of course! Sunita Re: THR following BHR, 33 year old female UK Hi, Well as McMinn is one of the godfathers of the prothesis I suspect you are in about the best hands you could be if that is any reassurance to you............... We have another poster here with hassles that could be related to metal impinging on tendons or AVN under the cap........ she may well see this and comment - or you can find her postings amongst the last few weeks........... I also wonder if we could get one of our drop in to the list OS's to explain why the metal impinging on tendons can only be solved by having the BHR replaced?.......... I keep wondering why there isn't some way of stretching these or is it something to do with the breakdown of the bursia and lubrication that wouldn't stop the problem even if stretched.........? And why the THR head wouldn't also rub onto the ligaments as well?? On the lighter side I am a little concerned to hear your original surgeon migated to Australia........... If he got yours wrong I dread him practicing here............ groan.......probably end up in my end of the country where so many others who are 2nd rate come to settle............. Otherwise sad to hear of your hassles - you must be truly fed up with hip problems having had them for most of your life it seems....... That is very annoying I know from personal experience........... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > Just logged on today - a website for people like me - how great! At least, I know I'm not alone now! I am a 33 year old female, born with a dislocation in right hip, diagnosed at 2 years old and bascially have suffered ever since. I spent most of my childhood in traction, plaster, calipers,, etc until 10 years old - looking good. Arthritis set in at 25 years old and I was diagnosed as having a Dysplastic hip. I underwent a Birmingham Hip in June 2002 in Liverpool, England. I really had high hopes for this op, as at the time, it was big news and surgeons were really excited. I was given two options, either a Pelvic Ganz Osteotomy in Bristol or the Birmingham in Liverpool. Second option was most reasonable. Unfortunately, I never gained anything from this operation. After 12 weeks post-op I was still in a lot of pain. It has now been over 2 years since the op I am under another man in Liverpool now as the guy who carried out my op emigrated to Australia. I am not convinced he is the right one for me (his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired) and I recently paid privately to see McMinn in Birmingham for his opinion as I was at the end of my tether. Mr McMinn thought my problems maybe one of several things - metal impinging on tendon, avascular necrosis. He thought my only option would be to have a Total Hip Replacement - as this gave the best chance of any future problems arising. The downside is the number of revisions I could need. I was absolutely devastated, but I trust his judgement more than I would of anyone else and know it's the only way forward to rid this enormous pain and stop taking painkillers by the minutes. Has anyone else had a similar experience to mine - THR following BHR - please share with me and ease my worries a bit? THR is booked for 2-3 months. I would appreciate any replies. Thanks in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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