Re: Can of worms - Jail calls

[Guest guest]

Just as a first thought, the assessment is nowhere near complete enough to even

contemplate a refusal.

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, NREMT-P/Lic.P.

-Licensed Paramedic/Attorney at Law/EMS Instructor

-Austin, Texas

Hello everyone,

Have you ever had this call before?

There are 5 ambulances in your city, and it just so happens at this particular

time and moment, you are the only ambulance in the city, and your goin to the

jail. OMG, not the jail again!

PD reports that 40 y/o male is complaining of having a panic attack. EMS arrives

on scene, checks the patient, and vitals are 126/70 pulse rate 64, resp. 18.,

skin normal Now what?

A - let the officer know that he can go by police car to the county jail?

B - package him up and take him to the hospital?

C - sign a refusal

D - " the answer you come up with "

What is the most correct way of handling this? By the way, I am not familiar

with Texas Law. I understand that law enforcement is responsible for the

prisoner's health and welfare. Can PD sign a prisoner's AMA? Where is the shift

in libility lie?

Can't wait to see your answers.....

Have fun....

Jeff

We all know that " The law enforcement is responsible for the prisoner's health

and welfare... "

[Guest guest]

Not enough information to make a determination. Need a complete history and

physican assessment including blood glucose, temp, SaO2.

GG

Can of worms - Jail calls

Hello everyone,

Have you ever had this call before?

There are 5 ambulances in your city, and it just so happens at this particular

time and moment, you are the only ambulance in the city, and your goin to the

jail. OMG, not the jail again!

PD reports that 40 y/o male is complaining of having a panic attack. EMS arrives

on scene, checks the patient, and vitals are 126/70 pulse rate 64, resp. 18.,

skin normal. Now what?

A - let the officer know that he can go by police car to the county jail?

B - package him up and take him to the hospital?

C - sign a refusal

D - " the answer you come up with "

What is the most correct way of handling this? By the way, I am not familiar

with Texas Law. I understand that law enforcement is responsible for the

prisoner's health and welfare. Can PD sign a prisoner's AMA? Where is the shift

in libility lie?

Can't wait to see your answers.....

Have fun....

Jeff

We all know that " The law enforcement is responsible for the prisoner's health

and welfare... "

[Guest guest]

On Thursday, September 2, 2010 19:29, " Wegandy " wegandy@...> said:

> Not enough information to make a determination. Need a complete history and

> physican assessment including blood glucose, temp, SaO2.

Don't forget the Pap Smear. You know what goes on in jail!

[Guest guest]

What goes on? I've never been in jail. Can you fill me in? LOL

GG

Re: Can of worms - Jail calls

On Thursday, September 2, 2010 19:29, " Wegandy " wegandy@...> said:

> Not enough information to make a determination. Need a complete history and

> physican assessment including blood glucose, temp, SaO2.

Don't forget the Pap Smear. You know what goes on in jail!

[Guest guest]

You never made it to the pros, but I heard you did well in the amateurs.

Austin

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You never made it to the pros, but I heard you did well in the amateurs.

Austin

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>> Not enough information to make a determination. Need a complete history and

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