Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Thanks for putting me out in a public forum like that you seem like a real team player. Questions like this are asked all the time on here. To answer your question I have both looked on the website at the rules, I was hoping for clarification from one of the many people on this list that are or have direct ties to the governing agency. I have also called the state twice with no reply, that was mentioned in an earlier email. -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > > > Wouldn't it be more fitting to simply look it up instead of asking a group of folks who are likely as uninformed as you? Even the old TDH had the rules posted on the web, and if finding the actual rule proves difficult, I think they even have phone service in Austin. > > Let me help you. The rules are here: > > http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/emstraumasystems/TexAdminCode.shtm > > And this is the telephone number: > > > > I know you said you were old school but do you realize that you actually spent more time explaining that than you would have if you simply typed DSHS? And that you could have had the answer to your question with a simple phone call? > > Always puzzles me why folks come to this list to ask questions that should be addressed to the agency that governs us. > > - - > > > >>>>> >>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] >>> >>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of >>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM >>>>>> To: texasems-l >>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS >>> and >>>>> they >>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does >>>> anyone >>>>> know >>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a >>>> custom >>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific >>> rule >>>>> from >>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly >>>>> having >>>>>> some made? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. I've - - > >>>>> > >>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] > >>> > >>>> On > >>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM > >>>>>> To: texasems-l > >>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS > >>> and > >>>>> they > >>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does > >>>> anyone > >>>>> know > >>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a > >>>> custom > >>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific > >>> rule > >>>>> from > >>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly > >>>>> having > >>>>>> some made? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. I've - - > >>>>> > >>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] > >>> > >>>> On > >>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM > >>>>>> To: texasems-l > >>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS > >>> and > >>>>> they > >>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does > >>>> anyone > >>>>> know > >>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a > >>>> custom > >>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific > >>> rule > >>>>> from > >>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly > >>>>> having > >>>>>> some made? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Compared to me most on this list are EMS young by default as my 30th anniversary was on Friday. Not all in Texas mind you. The young statement was more metaphor than reality based as I know not the players. Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI Training Program Manager Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc. Typed by my fingers on my iPhone. Please excuse any typos. (Cell) (Office) (Office Fax) LNMolino@... Lou@... > Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. > > If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. > > Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. > > And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. > I've > - - > > > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] >>>>> >>>>>> On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM >>>>>>>> To: texasems-l >>>>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS >>>>> and >>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does >>>>>> anyone >>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a >>>>>> custom >>>>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific >>>>> rule >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly >>>>>>> having >>>>>>>> some made? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'll be in my office tomorrow; feel free to contact me regarding your questions. Maxie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I have been on this list at least 10 years, and yes I agree questions do get tiresome but if you can't ask a question without ridicule what exactly is the point. I thought this was supposed to be a network of colleagues helping each other out. I apologize if the question was inappropriate or offensive, but in my opinion it was not. If you're tired of your inbox being full of questions maybe it's time to click the remove button. I'm not trying to put you out here, I'm really not, but please try and have some patience with people especially the ones you don't know. We are all on the same team! My email is listed you could have easily hit me off-list. " TDH " said more out of habit than anything else, has not called me back after two calls to compliance office messages left both times. There are also people on this list who are legal professional, and people who work in the DSHS offices that post on here frequently, not to mention Tactical Medics, who may have insure in to my question. Respectfully, -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. > > If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. > > Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. > > And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. > I've > - - > > > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] >>>>> >>>>>> On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM >>>>>>>> To: texasems-l >>>>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS >>>>> and >>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does >>>>>> anyone >>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a >>>>>> custom >>>>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific >>>>> rule >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly >>>>>>> having >>>>>>>> some made? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I have been on this list at least 10 years, and yes I agree questions do get tiresome but if you can't ask a question without ridicule what exactly is the point. I thought this was supposed to be a network of colleagues helping each other out. I apologize if the question was inappropriate or offensive, but in my opinion it was not. If you're tired of your inbox being full of questions maybe it's time to click the remove button. I'm not trying to put you out here, I'm really not, but please try and have some patience with people especially the ones you don't know. We are all on the same team! My email is listed you could have easily hit me off-list. " TDH " said more out of habit than anything else, has not called me back after two calls to compliance office messages left both times. There are also people on this list who are legal professional, and people who work in the DSHS offices that post on here frequently, not to mention Tactical Medics, who may have insure in to my question. Respectfully, -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. > > If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. > > Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. > > And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. > I've > - - > > > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] >>>>> >>>>>> On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM >>>>>>>> To: texasems-l >>>>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS >>>>> and >>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does >>>>>> anyone >>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a >>>>>> custom >>>>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific >>>>> rule >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly >>>>>>> having >>>>>>>> some made? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Then explain that to them, why be so abrasive? Why not just try to be helpful and answer the man's question? I personally think that the way you treat fellow EMT's on this board, is a pretty good indication of how you might treat a patient in the field. BTW.....I STILL call it TDH. Just as my mom still called Kroger's " Heinkies " before she passed. I would ask people to lighten up, but after ten + years of seeing people treated like that here.....It's a lost cause. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " Subject: Re: Subdued EMS Patches To: texasems-l Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:49 PM  Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. I've - - > >>>>> > >>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] > >>> > >>>> On > >>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM > >>>>>> To: texasems-l > >>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS > >>> and > >>>>> they > >>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does > >>>> anyone > >>>>> know > >>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a > >>>> custom > >>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific > >>> rule > >>>>> from > >>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly > >>>>> having > >>>>>> some made? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Then explain that to them, why be so abrasive? Why not just try to be helpful and answer the man's question? I personally think that the way you treat fellow EMT's on this board, is a pretty good indication of how you might treat a patient in the field. BTW.....I STILL call it TDH. Just as my mom still called Kroger's " Heinkies " before she passed. I would ask people to lighten up, but after ten + years of seeing people treated like that here.....It's a lost cause. I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, You can keep the " CHANGE. " Subject: Re: Subdued EMS Patches To: texasems-l Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:49 PM  Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. I've - - > >>>>> > >>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] > >>> > >>>> On > >>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM > >>>>>> To: texasems-l > >>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS > >>> and > >>>>> they > >>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does > >>>> anyone > >>>>> know > >>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a > >>>> custom > >>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific > >>> rule > >>>>> from > >>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly > >>>>> having > >>>>>> some made? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 A big THANK YOU, to Mr. Bishop I got the help I was looking for. Also thank you to all who have tried to help me out with this it is greatly appreciated. If you would like to know what I found out hit me up off list, I'm ready for this post to be dead!!!! -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > Then explain that to them, why be so abrasive? Why not just try to be helpful and answer the man's question? I personally think that the way you treat fellow EMT's on this board, is a pretty good indication of how you might treat a patient in the field. BTW.....I STILL call it TDH. Just as my mom still called Kroger's " Heinkies " before she passed. I would ask people to lighten up, but after ten + years of seeing people treated like that here.....It's a lost cause. > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > Subject: Re: Subdued EMS Patches > To: texasems-l > Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. > > > > If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. > > > > Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. > > > > And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. > > I've > > - - > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] > >>>>> > >>>>>> On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM > >>>>>>>> To: texasems-l > >>>>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS > >>>>> and > >>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does > >>>>>> anyone > >>>>>>> know > >>>>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a > >>>>>> custom > >>>>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific > >>>>> rule > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly > >>>>>>> having > >>>>>>>> some made? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -Chris > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 A big THANK YOU, to Mr. Bishop I got the help I was looking for. Also thank you to all who have tried to help me out with this it is greatly appreciated. If you would like to know what I found out hit me up off list, I'm ready for this post to be dead!!!! -Chris Sorry for the spelling and punctuation this was typed on the tiny keyboard on my iPhone > Then explain that to them, why be so abrasive? Why not just try to be helpful and answer the man's question? I personally think that the way you treat fellow EMT's on this board, is a pretty good indication of how you might treat a patient in the field. BTW.....I STILL call it TDH. Just as my mom still called Kroger's " Heinkies " before she passed. I would ask people to lighten up, but after ten + years of seeing people treated like that here.....It's a lost cause. > > > I'll keep my Guns, my Freedom and my MONEY, > You can keep the " CHANGE. " > > > > > > Subject: Re: Subdued EMS Patches > To: texasems-l > Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, so maybe that was a bit harsh but it gets so tiresome seeing this kind of question asked to a list of people that very likely don't have any more information than you. Asking for info from this list is asking for trouble. They don't know any better than you do. You called yourself " old school. " To me that indicates experience. If you've had some experience you should know that asking this list, or any public forum questions is unlikely to get you an accurate answer. > > > > If you've called DSHS twice and not gotten a reply, then that is a problem. The people at DSHS are supposed to be responsive to the stakeholders. I've never had a problem calling and getting an answer, but if they are not answering for you then you need to work up the chain or perhaps calling one of the satellite offices. State agencies are required to be responsive to the public. > > > > Asking this list rule or law questions will get you a dozen answers and you will still not know if any of them are correct. > > > > And to Molino, if someone still calling DSHS by a name the agency hasn't used in 6 or 7 years means to you that that person is " our young, " I simply don't know what to say. > > I've > > - - > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Try miller uniform in Austin > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] > >>>>> > >>>>>> On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>>>> Sent: June 20, 2011 11:05 AM > >>>>>>>> To: texasems-l > >>>>>>>> Subject: Subdued EMS Patches > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> A few years back I saw some of the tactical team guys from ATCEMS > >>>>> and > >>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> had subdued (od green) certification patches on their BDU's does > >>>>>> anyone > >>>>>>> know > >>>>>>>> of any vendors in the state that have these patches or were they a > >>>>>> custom > >>>>>>>> job. If they were custom does anyone know if there is a specific > >>>>> rule > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> TDH (sorry im old school) about reproducing the patches and possibly > >>>>>>> having > >>>>>>>> some made? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -Chris > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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