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In a message dated 4/30/03 9:26:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shanley_n_teresa@... writes:

> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

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> I can't take this anymore!!

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{{{teresa}}}

ellen

Going crazzzzzy

Zach's in his room again. Screaming. For the last week his behavior

has been unbelievably awful. Today I got up, right away he goes to

the back door stomping. We go outside. He stands by the door to

come inside. We come inside. He starts screaming and stomping,

grabbing on me. We eat. We go to the park. He plays in the sand

and slides all by himself for a whole 7 minutes. Then he's running

for the car and won't come back. Get home, he wants to go outside.

Hanging on me, poking at my boobs, dumping the food on the floor then

screaming when I take it away, anything on my desk he's grabbing.

Playing with the dials on the phone, screams when I take it away.

When I play with him on the floor he is throwing his whole body on me

and stomping on me and it hurts! I cook dinner, he's standing under

my at my feet, grabbing ahold of my shirt stomping screaming. I know

one of these days he's going to trip me holding a hot pan.

It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

I can't take this anymore!!

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ellen

Going crazzzzzy

Zach's in his room again. Screaming. For the last week his behavior

has been unbelievably awful. Today I got up, right away he goes to

the back door stomping. We go outside. He stands by the door to

come inside. We come inside. He starts screaming and stomping,

grabbing on me. We eat. We go to the park. He plays in the sand

and slides all by himself for a whole 7 minutes. Then he's running

for the car and won't come back. Get home, he wants to go outside.

Hanging on me, poking at my boobs, dumping the food on the floor then

screaming when I take it away, anything on my desk he's grabbing.

Playing with the dials on the phone, screams when I take it away.

When I play with him on the floor he is throwing his whole body on me

and stomping on me and it hurts! I cook dinner, he's standing under

my at my feet, grabbing ahold of my shirt stomping screaming. I know

one of these days he's going to trip me holding a hot pan.

It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

I can't take this anymore!!

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(((teresa))))

life is pretty friggen rotten sometimes. hope you get a break soon.

M.G.mum to

Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

married to and living in Northern Ontario

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he still on the diet?

~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

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gina, 31, ny

single mom to -

kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

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Hang in there . It is possible to cook with a child clinging

to your leg or shirt, but it does require extra care. It's also

annoying, but you get used to it and then they stop. This too is a

phase and this too will pass - eventually. Just hang in there.

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Hang in there . It is possible to cook with a child clinging

to your leg or shirt, but it does require extra care. It's also

annoying, but you get used to it and then they stop. This too is a

phase and this too will pass - eventually. Just hang in there.

((hugs))

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YES!

-- In parenting_autism , " muollo3 "

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> he still on the diet?

>

>

> ~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

> -------------------------

> gina, 31, ny

> single mom to -

> kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

> trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

> parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

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Oh boy have I had days (weeks, months) like this. And I had been at a real

loss for a long time on what to do about it. But I have finally found

something that is working for us. Essentially, when n begins to push

me to my limit by being Obnoxious Boy, or being physically aggressive, or

just generally driving me insane ... he gets a 10 minute time-out in his

room.

See I've been struggling because I realize that most autie behavior, while

intolerable, is largely innocent, and I can place him in his room without

feeling like I've unjustly punished him. Perhaps he will learn what

behaviors are unacceptable, but for now I am happy just to diffuse the

tension. n frequently spends the time jumping on his bed, which I

think helps him calm down, and more often than not, emerges from time-out a

happier person (a temporary affect). Also *I* get a break so that I don't

explode, and this makes my day manageable, cuz once I am pushed beyond my

limit, it ain't pretty, and I do not parent effectively, sometimes for days.

Also, as we all know, when our kids get worked up, it is useful to remove

the object of distress. I have come to accept that in most situations *I*

am that object. If I cannot decipher or fix what he needs then I become the

antagonist. As such, sometimes I think he needs those 10 minutes away from

me as much as I need the 10 minutes away from him.

Hang in there! {{{{Theresa}}}}

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

----- Original Message -----

> Zach's in his room again. Screaming. For the last week his behavior

> has been unbelievably awful. Today I got up, right away he goes to

> the back door stomping. We go outside. He stands by the door to

> come inside. We come inside. He starts screaming and stomping,

> grabbing on me. We eat. We go to the park. He plays in the sand

> and slides all by himself for a whole 7 minutes. Then he's running

> for the car and won't come back. Get home, he wants to go outside.

> Hanging on me, poking at my boobs, dumping the food on the floor then

> screaming when I take it away, anything on my desk he's grabbing.

> Playing with the dials on the phone, screams when I take it away.

> When I play with him on the floor he is throwing his whole body on me

> and stomping on me and it hurts! I cook dinner, he's standing under

> my at my feet, grabbing ahold of my shirt stomping screaming. I know

> one of these days he's going to trip me holding a hot pan.

>

> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

>

> I can't take this anymore!!

>

>

>

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Oh boy have I had days (weeks, months) like this. And I had been at a real

loss for a long time on what to do about it. But I have finally found

something that is working for us. Essentially, when n begins to push

me to my limit by being Obnoxious Boy, or being physically aggressive, or

just generally driving me insane ... he gets a 10 minute time-out in his

room.

See I've been struggling because I realize that most autie behavior, while

intolerable, is largely innocent, and I can place him in his room without

feeling like I've unjustly punished him. Perhaps he will learn what

behaviors are unacceptable, but for now I am happy just to diffuse the

tension. n frequently spends the time jumping on his bed, which I

think helps him calm down, and more often than not, emerges from time-out a

happier person (a temporary affect). Also *I* get a break so that I don't

explode, and this makes my day manageable, cuz once I am pushed beyond my

limit, it ain't pretty, and I do not parent effectively, sometimes for days.

Also, as we all know, when our kids get worked up, it is useful to remove

the object of distress. I have come to accept that in most situations *I*

am that object. If I cannot decipher or fix what he needs then I become the

antagonist. As such, sometimes I think he needs those 10 minutes away from

me as much as I need the 10 minutes away from him.

Hang in there! {{{{Theresa}}}}

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

----- Original Message -----

> Zach's in his room again. Screaming. For the last week his behavior

> has been unbelievably awful. Today I got up, right away he goes to

> the back door stomping. We go outside. He stands by the door to

> come inside. We come inside. He starts screaming and stomping,

> grabbing on me. We eat. We go to the park. He plays in the sand

> and slides all by himself for a whole 7 minutes. Then he's running

> for the car and won't come back. Get home, he wants to go outside.

> Hanging on me, poking at my boobs, dumping the food on the floor then

> screaming when I take it away, anything on my desk he's grabbing.

> Playing with the dials on the phone, screams when I take it away.

> When I play with him on the floor he is throwing his whole body on me

> and stomping on me and it hurts! I cook dinner, he's standing under

> my at my feet, grabbing ahold of my shirt stomping screaming. I know

> one of these days he's going to trip me holding a hot pan.

>

> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

>

> I can't take this anymore!!

>

>

>

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It is possible to cook with a child clinging

> to your leg or shirt, but it does require extra care. It's also

> annoying, but you get used to it and then they stop.

HA! This is why the kitchen is *off-limits* to n. After numerous, and

I mean numerous, attempts to make the kitchen safe enough for n, I just

gave up.

Also I can hide in there from him : )

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

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It is possible to cook with a child clinging

> to your leg or shirt, but it does require extra care. It's also

> annoying, but you get used to it and then they stop.

HA! This is why the kitchen is *off-limits* to n. After numerous, and

I mean numerous, attempts to make the kitchen safe enough for n, I just

gave up.

Also I can hide in there from him : )

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

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jacquie's bang on here! happens with rowan all of the time. one step forward

in one area always means two steps back in another. that being said, rowan has

never " lost " a skill permanently in this process - just misplaced them for a bit

;o)

M.G.mum to

Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

married to and living in Northern Ontario

Re: Going crazzzzzy

> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

That's why, babe - that's WHY.

I see this in all the time. When he's making great strides in one

area, in all other areas of life he acts like he's possessed.

My theory is that when they're making a huge breakthrough, like new words,

their brains are working so hard on THAT one thing that they can't modulate

anything else, and that they stim to comfort themselves about all this new

stuff.

(((hugs)))

This DOES even out.

Jacquie

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jacquie's bang on here! happens with rowan all of the time. one step forward

in one area always means two steps back in another. that being said, rowan has

never " lost " a skill permanently in this process - just misplaced them for a bit

;o)

M.G.mum to

Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

married to and living in Northern Ontario

Re: Going crazzzzzy

> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

That's why, babe - that's WHY.

I see this in all the time. When he's making great strides in one

area, in all other areas of life he acts like he's possessed.

My theory is that when they're making a huge breakthrough, like new words,

their brains are working so hard on THAT one thing that they can't modulate

anything else, and that they stim to comfort themselves about all this new

stuff.

(((hugs)))

This DOES even out.

Jacquie

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> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

That's why, babe - that's WHY.

I see this in all the time. When he's making great strides in one

area, in all other areas of life he acts like he's possessed.

My theory is that when they're making a huge breakthrough, like new words,

their brains are working so hard on THAT one thing that they can't modulate

anything else, and that they stim to comfort themselves about all this new

stuff.

(((hugs)))

This DOES even out.

Jacquie

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> It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

That's why, babe - that's WHY.

I see this in all the time. When he's making great strides in one

area, in all other areas of life he acts like he's possessed.

My theory is that when they're making a huge breakthrough, like new words,

their brains are working so hard on THAT one thing that they can't modulate

anything else, and that they stim to comfort themselves about all this new

stuff.

(((hugs)))

This DOES even out.

Jacquie

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Thanks (and everyone else for the encouragement)

I do this too, put him in his room. After awhile, I hear him jumping

off his bed. Thing is, once I take him out of his room it's the same

thing.

I've again begun to correct him. Only because I feel he can

understand " no' now. He shows willful disobedience..something he

hadn't done in the past. Meaning when I say no, he puts his hand

near the object, and looks at me and slowly proceeds until I say no

again. Then he does it anyway and holds his hands over his eyes when

it's done.

He seems to be understanding me better too. He's following

directions better as in " get the shoe " . Oddly enough, he will only

do it about 75% of the time. If it's something he likes, like

OUTSIDE, he seems to understand 100% of the time.

This isn't the same for his anxiety of course. I don't correct him

for that. Nor do I try to get too upset with his apparent

hypersensitive sensory issues.

I talked to my husband last night. How I just don't feel like I can

handle this anymore. If I allow myself to think about the fact that

he's only two, and that we have indefinate amount of years to do

this, it's overwhelming.

So today is a new day, and I'll survive it yet again.

>

> Oh boy have I had days (weeks, months) like this. And I had been

at a real

> loss for a long time on what to do about it. But I have finally

found

> something that is working for us. Essentially, when n begins

to push

> me to my limit by being Obnoxious Boy, or being physically

aggressive, or

> just generally driving me insane ... he gets a 10 minute time-out

in his

> room.

>

> See I've been struggling because I realize that most autie

behavior, while

> intolerable, is largely innocent, and I can place him in his room

without

> feeling like I've unjustly punished him. Perhaps he will learn what

> behaviors are unacceptable, but for now I am happy just to diffuse

the

> tension. n frequently spends the time jumping on his bed,

which I

> think helps him calm down, and more often than not, emerges from

time-out a

> happier person (a temporary affect). Also *I* get a break so that

I don't

> explode, and this makes my day manageable, cuz once I am pushed

beyond my

> limit, it ain't pretty, and I do not parent effectively, sometimes

for days.

>

> Also, as we all know, when our kids get worked up, it is useful to

remove

> the object of distress. I have come to accept that in most

situations *I*

> am that object. If I cannot decipher or fix what he needs then I

become the

> antagonist. As such, sometimes I think he needs those 10 minutes

away from

> me as much as I need the 10 minutes away from him.

>

> Hang in there! {{{{Theresa}}}}

>

> (SAHM in GA)

> MSN elizabethloht@h...

> n 33, mo, no formal dx

> Phoebe, 11 wks

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " shanley_n_teresa "

>

> > Zach's in his room again. Screaming. For the last week his

behavior

> > has been unbelievably awful. Today I got up, right away he goes

to

> > the back door stomping. We go outside. He stands by the door to

> > come inside. We come inside. He starts screaming and stomping,

> > grabbing on me. We eat. We go to the park. He plays in the sand

> > and slides all by himself for a whole 7 minutes. Then he's

running

> > for the car and won't come back. Get home, he wants to go

outside.

> > Hanging on me, poking at my boobs, dumping the food on the floor

then

> > screaming when I take it away, anything on my desk he's grabbing.

> > Playing with the dials on the phone, screams when I take it away.

> > When I play with him on the floor he is throwing his whole body

on me

> > and stomping on me and it hurts! I cook dinner, he's standing

under

> > my at my feet, grabbing ahold of my shirt stomping screaming. I

know

> > one of these days he's going to trip me holding a hot pan.

> >

> > It's like this ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYY LONGGGGGGGGG.

> > He said EAT last night for the first time, and today, he said HOT.

> >

> > I can't take this anymore!!

> >

> >

> >

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> HA! This is why the kitchen is *off-limits* to n. After

numerous, and

> I mean numerous, attempts to make the kitchen safe enough for

n, I just

> gave up.

>

> Also I can hide in there from him : )

My house isn't designed so that I can block off my kitchen. But I've

seriously considered putting up new walls.

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Oh, oh, oh, he's two! Argh, *difficult* time for little auties (and their

mommies). At two years old, I was convinced nothing I was doing was making

a bit of difference. Now closer to 3, I can see that the seeds I planted

then are coming to fruition, but you couldn't have told me that then ...

> I've again begun to correct him. Only because I feel he can

> understand " no' now. He shows willful disobedience..something he

> hadn't done in the past. Meaning when I say no, he puts his hand

> near the object, and looks at me and slowly proceeds until I say no

> again. Then he does it anyway and holds his hands over his eyes when

> it's done.

Oh, yes, still battling this one. " no " is still a very funny game for

n. Can be quite annoying.

> He seems to be understanding me better too. He's following

> directions better as in " get the shoe " . Oddly enough, he will only

> do it about 75% of the time. If it's something he likes, like

> OUTSIDE, he seems to understand 100% of the time.

Selective listening, always my favorite (not!)

> I talked to my husband last night. How I just don't feel like I can

> handle this anymore. If I allow myself to think about the fact that

> he's only two, and that we have indefinate amount of years to do

> this, it's overwhelming.

>

> So today is a new day, and I'll survive it yet again.

Yes, I've had this conversation with the dh many times. Sometimes I feel

like I've been in " survival mode " forever. But I can see now where things

are improving some, but I think many here will tell you that, seriously, 18

mo - 3 is really really tough (ha ha next year I'll be saying that 4 is

tough).

Hang tight,

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

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Oh, oh, oh, he's two! Argh, *difficult* time for little auties (and their

mommies). At two years old, I was convinced nothing I was doing was making

a bit of difference. Now closer to 3, I can see that the seeds I planted

then are coming to fruition, but you couldn't have told me that then ...

> I've again begun to correct him. Only because I feel he can

> understand " no' now. He shows willful disobedience..something he

> hadn't done in the past. Meaning when I say no, he puts his hand

> near the object, and looks at me and slowly proceeds until I say no

> again. Then he does it anyway and holds his hands over his eyes when

> it's done.

Oh, yes, still battling this one. " no " is still a very funny game for

n. Can be quite annoying.

> He seems to be understanding me better too. He's following

> directions better as in " get the shoe " . Oddly enough, he will only

> do it about 75% of the time. If it's something he likes, like

> OUTSIDE, he seems to understand 100% of the time.

Selective listening, always my favorite (not!)

> I talked to my husband last night. How I just don't feel like I can

> handle this anymore. If I allow myself to think about the fact that

> he's only two, and that we have indefinate amount of years to do

> this, it's overwhelming.

>

> So today is a new day, and I'll survive it yet again.

Yes, I've had this conversation with the dh many times. Sometimes I feel

like I've been in " survival mode " forever. But I can see now where things

are improving some, but I think many here will tell you that, seriously, 18

mo - 3 is really really tough (ha ha next year I'll be saying that 4 is

tough).

Hang tight,

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

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