Re: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

[Guest guest]

15 mg of MS

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

Texas and other states have many measurements in old deeds that confound young

lawyers today. Old surveys are in links, chains, rods, and sections.

A rod is 33.5 feet; a chain is 4 rods, and a mile is 80 chains or 320 rods. A

section of land is a mile square, 80 chains, 320 rods, 5280 feet, 640 acres. A

link is 7.5 inches, and 25 links equals a rod.

Now, how many of you medics know how much a quarter grain of morphine is?

GG

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l )

_ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

)

>

> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

>

> > Time,

>

> > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

(mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

>

> > writes:

>

> >

>

> > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

>

> > alarm. " This is actually an

>

> > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

>

> > issue coming up with

>

> > FEMA deployments.

>

> >

>

> > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

>

> > alarmist "

>

> > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

>

> >

>

> > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

>

> > admit the laws are

>

> > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

>

> > sake of argument

>

> > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

>

> > systems in

>

> > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

>

> >

>

> > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

>

> > of scope of

>

> > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

>

> > management (mid 1980's)

>

> > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

>

> > systems since

>

> > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

>

> >

>

> > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

>

> >

>

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

>

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

>

> > Protection Consultant

>

> >

>

> > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

>

> >

>

> > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

>

> >

>

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> >

>

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

>

> > events; Small minds

>

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

>

> > reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Pack your bags. YOU'RE GOING TO LADONIA!

Correct, young man!

GG

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l )

_ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

)

>

> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

>

> > Time,

>

> > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

(mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

>

> > writes:

>

> >

>

> > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

>

> > alarm. " This is actually an

>

> > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

>

> > issue coming up with

>

> > FEMA deployments.

>

> >

>

> > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

>

> > alarmist "

>

> > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

>

> >

>

> > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

>

> > admit the laws are

>

> > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

>

> > sake of argument

>

> > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

>

> > systems in

>

> > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

>

> >

>

> > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

>

> > of scope of

>

> > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

>

> > management (mid 1980's)

>

> > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

>

> > systems since

>

> > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

>

> >

>

> > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

>

> >

>

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

>

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

>

> > Protection Consultant

>

> >

>

> > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

>

> >

>

> > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

>

> >

>

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> >

>

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

>

> > events; Small minds

>

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

>

> > reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Hee hee! I bet you could at that.

GG

Re: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

In a message dated 6/30/2010 8:00:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

wegandy@... writes:

Now, how many of you medics know how much a quarter grain of morphine is?

I bet one call back to the old Hood in Camden I could get Ya a street

price.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

[Guest guest]

Great, anywhere to get out of this rain on the coast.

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

,

Pack your bags. YOU'RE GOING TO LADONIA!

Correct, young man!

GG

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l )

_ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

)

>

> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

>

> > Time,

>

> > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

(mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

>

> > writes:

>

> >

>

> > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

>

> > alarm. " This is actually an

>

> > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

>

> > issue coming up with

>

> > FEMA deployments.

>

> >

>

> > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

>

> > alarmist "

>

> > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

>

> >

>

> > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

>

> > admit the laws are

>

> > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

>

> > sake of argument

>

> > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

>

> > systems in

>

> > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

>

> >

>

> > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

>

> > of scope of

>

> > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

>

> > management (mid 1980's)

>

> > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

>

> > systems since

>

> > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

>

> >

>

> > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

>

> >

>

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

>

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

>

> > Protection Consultant

>

> >

>

> > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

>

> >

>

> > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

>

> >

>

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> >

>

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

>

> > events; Small minds

>

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

>

> > reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Great, anywhere to get out of this rain on the coast.

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

,

Pack your bags. YOU'RE GOING TO LADONIA!

Correct, young man!

GG

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l )

_ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

)

>

> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

>

> > Time,

>

> > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

(mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

>

> > writes:

>

> >

>

> > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

>

> > alarm. " This is actually an

>

> > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

>

> > issue coming up with

>

> > FEMA deployments.

>

> >

>

> > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

>

> > alarmist "

>

> > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

>

> >

>

> > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

>

> > admit the laws are

>

> > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

>

> > sake of argument

>

> > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

>

> > systems in

>

> > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

>

> >

>

> > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

>

> > of scope of

>

> > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

>

> > management (mid 1980's)

>

> > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

>

> > systems since

>

> > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

>

> >

>

> > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

>

> >

>

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

>

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

>

> > Protection Consultant

>

> >

>

> > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

>

> >

>

> > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

>

> >

>

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> >

>

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

>

> > events; Small minds

>

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

>

> > reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Great, anywhere to get out of this rain on the coast.

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

,

Pack your bags. YOU'RE GOING TO LADONIA!

Correct, young man!

GG

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l )

_ (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

)

>

> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

>

> > Time,

>

> > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

(mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

>

> > writes:

>

> >

>

> > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

>

> > alarm. " This is actually an

>

> > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

>

> > issue coming up with

>

> > FEMA deployments.

>

> >

>

> > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

>

> > alarmist "

>

> > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

>

> >

>

> > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

>

> > admit the laws are

>

> > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

>

> > sake of argument

>

> > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

>

> > systems in

>

> > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

>

> >

>

> > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

>

> > of scope of

>

> > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

>

> > management (mid 1980's)

>

> > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

>

> > systems since

>

> > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

>

> >

>

> > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

>

> >

>

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

>

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

>

> > Protection Consultant

>

> >

>

> > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

>

> >

>

> > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

>

> >

>

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> >

>

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

>

> > events; Small minds

>

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

>

> > reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Kirk. You are quite correct. I had a small TIA while trying to

remember that stuff.

Gene

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l )

_ (mailto:_texasems-l _

(mailto:texasems-l )

)

>

> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

>

> > Time,

>

> > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

(mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

>

> > writes:

>

> >

>

> > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

>

> > alarm. " This is actually an

>

> > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

>

> > issue coming up with

>

> > FEMA deployments.

>

> >

>

> > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

>

> > alarmist "

>

> > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

>

> >

>

> > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

>

> > admit the laws are

>

> > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

>

> > sake of argument

>

> > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

>

> > systems in

>

> > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

>

> >

>

> > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

>

> > of scope of

>

> > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

>

> > management (mid 1980's)

>

> > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

>

> > systems since

>

> > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

>

> >

>

> > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

>

> >

>

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

>

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

>

> > Protection Consultant

>

> >

>

> > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

>

> >

>

> > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

>

> >

>

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> >

>

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

>

> > events; Small minds

>

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

>

> > reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ------------------------------------

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh so it's sports like football not really all that important I the

grand scheme of things.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> A league is a group of players or teams competing in sporting events.

>

> Sorry, couldn't resist. Its a unit of measure that was common in

> England

> and Europe in the 1700s. Its roughly equivalent to 3 miles. Statute on

> land, nautical at sea. Texas got to keep their public lands in the

> treaty

> that granted them statehood and the national limit at the time was 3

> leagues,

> so Texas got to keep their 3 league territorial limit. The reason

> for 3

> leagues was that was about max range on a shipboard cannon at the

> time.

>

>

> In a message dated 6/30/2010 10:17:11 Central Daylight Time,

> lnmolino@... writes:

>

> Why am I not suprised that Texas is different?

>

> Just what is a leauge?

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

>

> > Texas state waters run to 3 leagues. All other states is 3 miles.

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 6/29/2010 16:40:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > lnmolino@... writes:

> >

> > I have been told that inside the 3-Mile limit you are consider to be

> > in

> > " State waters " between 3-12 miles " Federal Waters " and after 12

> miles

> > " International Waters " .

> >

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection

> > Consultant

> >

> > LNMolino@...

> >

> > (Cell Phone)

> >

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small

> minds

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 -

> > 1962)

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 10:35:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > james_dav_bmcg@... writes:

> >

> > what I was told @ being tied up is osha is in charge and when you

> > are way

> > from the dock it's the coast guard. i don't know the source of

> that. i

> > asked

> > and was told.

> >

> > jim davis

> >

> >

> >

> > > From: _lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) _lnmolino@...

> > _

> >

> > (mailto:lnmolino@...) >

> >

> > > Subject: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> >

> > > To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l

> )

> >

> > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

> >

> > > Time,

> >

> > > _bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...)

> >

> > > writes:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

> >

> > > alarm. " This is actually an

> >

> > > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

> >

> > > issue coming up with

> >

> > > FEMA deployments.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

> >

> > > alarmist "

> >

> > > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

> >

> > > admit the laws are

> >

> > > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

> >

> > > sake of argument

> >

> > > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

> >

> > > systems in

> >

> > > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

> >

> > > of scope of

> >

> > > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

> >

> > > management (mid 1980's)

> >

> > > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

> >

> > > systems since

> >

> > > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> >

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> >

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

> >

> > > Protection Consultant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > _LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

> >

> > > events; Small minds

> >

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

> >

> > > reformer (1884 - 1962)

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Oh so it's sports like football not really all that important I the

grand scheme of things.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> A league is a group of players or teams competing in sporting events.

>

> Sorry, couldn't resist. Its a unit of measure that was common in

> England

> and Europe in the 1700s. Its roughly equivalent to 3 miles. Statute on

> land, nautical at sea. Texas got to keep their public lands in the

> treaty

> that granted them statehood and the national limit at the time was 3

> leagues,

> so Texas got to keep their 3 league territorial limit. The reason

> for 3

> leagues was that was about max range on a shipboard cannon at the

> time.

>

>

> In a message dated 6/30/2010 10:17:11 Central Daylight Time,

> lnmolino@... writes:

>

> Why am I not suprised that Texas is different?

>

> Just what is a leauge?

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

> FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

> Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

> Please excuse any typos.

> (Cell)

> LNMolino@...

>

>

>

> > Texas state waters run to 3 leagues. All other states is 3 miles.

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 6/29/2010 16:40:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > lnmolino@... writes:

> >

> > I have been told that inside the 3-Mile limit you are consider to be

> > in

> > " State waters " between 3-12 miles " Federal Waters " and after 12

> miles

> > " International Waters " .

> >

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection

> > Consultant

> >

> > LNMolino@...

> >

> > (Cell Phone)

> >

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small

> minds

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 -

> > 1962)

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 10:35:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > james_dav_bmcg@... writes:

> >

> > what I was told @ being tied up is osha is in charge and when you

> > are way

> > from the dock it's the coast guard. i don't know the source of

> that. i

> > asked

> > and was told.

> >

> > jim davis

> >

> >

> >

> > > From: _lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) _lnmolino@...

> > _

> >

> > (mailto:lnmolino@...) >

> >

> > > Subject: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> >

> > > To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l

> )

> >

> > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

> >

> > > Time,

> >

> > > _bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...)

> >

> > > writes:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

> >

> > > alarm. " This is actually an

> >

> > > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

> >

> > > issue coming up with

> >

> > > FEMA deployments.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

> >

> > > alarmist "

> >

> > > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

> >

> > > admit the laws are

> >

> > > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

> >

> > > sake of argument

> >

> > > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

> >

> > > systems in

> >

> > > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

> >

> > > of scope of

> >

> > > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

> >

> > > management (mid 1980's)

> >

> > > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

> >

> > > systems since

> >

> > > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> >

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> >

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

> >

> > > Protection Consultant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > _LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

> >

> > > events; Small minds

> >

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

> >

> > > reformer (1884 - 1962)

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

At your age small TIA's are expected.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

LNMolino@...

> Thank you, Kirk. You are quite correct. I had a small TIA while

> trying to remember that stuff.

>

> Gene

>

> Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> >

> > > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l

> )

> _ (mailto:_texasems-l _

> (mailto:texasems-l )

> )

> >

> > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

> >

> > > Time,

> >

> > > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

> >

> > > writes:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

> >

> > > alarm. " This is actually an

> >

> > > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

> >

> > > issue coming up with

> >

> > > FEMA deployments.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

> >

> > > alarmist "

> >

> > > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

> >

> > > admit the laws are

> >

> > > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

> >

> > > sake of argument

> >

> > > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

> >

> > > systems in

> >

> > > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

> >

> > > of scope of

> >

> > > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

> >

> > > management (mid 1980's)

> >

> > > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

> >

> > > systems since

> >

> > > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> >

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> >

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

> >

> > > Protection Consultant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

> >

> > >

> >

> > > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

> >

> > > events; Small minds

> >

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

> >

> > > reformer (1884 - 1962)

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I resemble that remark!!!

G

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> >

> > > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l

> )

> _ (mailto:_texasems-l _

> (mailto:texasems-l )

> )

> >

> > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

> >

> > > Time,

> >

> > > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

> >

> > > writes:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

> >

> > > alarm. " This is actually an

> >

> > > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

> >

> > > issue coming up with

> >

> > > FEMA deployments.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

> >

> > > alarmist "

> >

> > > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

> >

> > > admit the laws are

> >

> > > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

> >

> > > sake of argument

> >

> > > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

> >

> > > systems in

> >

> > > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

> >

> > > of scope of

> >

> > > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

> >

> > > management (mid 1980's)

> >

> > > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

> >

> > > systems since

> >

> > > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> >

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> >

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

> >

> > > Protection Consultant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

> >

> > >

> >

> > > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

> >

> > > events; Small minds

> >

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

> >

> > > reformer (1884 - 1962)

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I resemble that remark!!!

G

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> >

> > > To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l

> )

> _ (mailto:_texasems-l _

> (mailto:texasems-l )

> )

> >

> > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

> >

> > > Time,

> >

> > > __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

> >

> > > writes:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

> >

> > > alarm. " This is actually an

> >

> > > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

> >

> > > issue coming up with

> >

> > > FEMA deployments.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

> >

> > > alarmist "

> >

> > > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

> >

> > > admit the laws are

> >

> > > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

> >

> > > sake of argument

> >

> > > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

> >

> > > systems in

> >

> > > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

> >

> > > of scope of

> >

> > > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

> >

> > > management (mid 1980's)

> >

> > > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

> >

> > > systems since

> >

> > > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> >

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> >

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

> >

> > > Protection Consultant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

> >

> > >

> >

> > > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

> >

> > > events; Small minds

> >

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

> >

> > > reformer (1884 - 1962)

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

To heck with rods, leagues, fathoms and furlongs.

I do all my measurements in Smoots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot>

>

> Gene -

>

> Sorry to correct you, but according to what I learned as a youthful

> navigator and confirmed by UNC Chappel Hill dictionary of measurements

> a rod is

> 5.5 yards or 16.5 feet. In your own example you equate 320 rods to 1

> statute mile (i.e. 5280 feet). If you do the math, you will see that

> the rod

> equals 16.5 feet.

>

> Kirk

> EMT-B

>

>

> In a message dated 6/30/2010 20:00:51 Central Daylight Time,

> wegandy@... writes:

>

> Texas and other states have many measurements in old deeds that confound

> young lawyers today. Old surveys are in links, chains, rods, and sections.

>

> A rod is 33.5 feet; a chain is 4 rods, and a mile is 80 chains or 320

> rods. A section of land is a mile square, 80 chains, 320 rods, 5280

> feet, 640

> acres. A link is 7.5 inches, and 25 links equals a rod.

>

> Now, how many of you medics know how much a quarter grain of morphine is?

>

> GG

>

> Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> >

> > > To: __texasems-l

> _

> (mailto:_texasems-l

> )

> _ (mailto:_texasems-l

> _

> (mailto:texasems-l )

> )

> >

> > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

> >

> > > Time,

> >

> > > __bradsattler@... _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@... ) _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@... _

> (mailto:bradsattler@... ) )

> >

> > > writes:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

> >

> > > alarm. " This is actually an

> >

> > > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

> >

> > > issue coming up with

> >

> > > FEMA deployments.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

> >

> > > alarmist "

> >

> > > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

> >

> > > admit the laws are

> >

> > > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

> >

> > > sake of argument

> >

> > > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

> >

> > > systems in

> >

> > > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

> >

> > > of scope of

> >

> > > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

> >

> > > management (mid 1980's)

> >

> > > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

> >

> > > systems since

> >

> > > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> >

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> >

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

> >

> > > Protection Consultant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > __LNMolino@... _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@... ) _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@... _

> (mailto:LNMolino@... ) )

> >

> > >

> >

> > > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

> >

> > > events; Small minds

> >

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

> >

> > > reformer (1884 - 1962)

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Only a Cajun , only a Cajun!

Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> >

> > > To: __texasems-l

> _

> (mailto:_texasems-l

> )

> _ (mailto:_texasems-l

> _

> (mailto:texasems-l )

> )

> >

> > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

> >

> > > Time,

> >

> > > __bradsattler@... _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@... ) _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@... _

> (mailto:bradsattler@... ) )

> >

> > > writes:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

> >

> > > alarm. " This is actually an

> >

> > > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

> >

> > > issue coming up with

> >

> > > FEMA deployments.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

> >

> > > alarmist "

> >

> > > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

> >

> > > admit the laws are

> >

> > > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

> >

> > > sake of argument

> >

> > > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

> >

> > > systems in

> >

> > > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

> >

> > > of scope of

> >

> > > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

> >

> > > management (mid 1980's)

> >

> > > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

> >

> > > systems since

> >

> > > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> >

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> >

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

> >

> > > Protection Consultant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > __LNMolino@... _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@... ) _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@... _

> (mailto:LNMolino@... ) )

> >

> > >

> >

> > > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

> >

> > > events; Small minds

> >

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

> >

> > > reformer (1884 - 1962)

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I didn't know that had attended MIT. That explains a lot.

GG

Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> >

> > > To: __texasems-l

> _

> (mailto:_texasems-l

>

> _ (mailto:_texasems-l

> _

> (mailto:texasems-l

> )

> >

> > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

> >

> > > Time,

> >

> > > __bradsattler@... _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@... _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@... _

> (mailto:bradsattler@... )

> >

> > > writes:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

> >

> > > alarm. " This is actually an

> >

> > > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

> >

> > > issue coming up with

> >

> > > FEMA deployments.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

> >

> > > alarmist "

> >

> > > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

> >

> > > admit the laws are

> >

> > > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

> >

> > > sake of argument

> >

> > > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

> >

> > > systems in

> >

> > > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

> >

> > > of scope of

> >

> > > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

> >

> > > management (mid 1980's)

> >

> > > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

> >

> > > systems since

> >

> > > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> >

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> >

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

> >

> > > Protection Consultant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > __LNMolino@... _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@... _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@... _

> (mailto:LNMolino@... )

> >

> > >

> >

> > > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> > end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

> >

> > > events; Small minds

> >

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

> >

> > > reformer (1884 - 1962)

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

justice league.

>

> > From: _lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) _lnmolino@...

> _

>

> (mailto:lnmolino@...) >

>

> > Subject: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> > To: _texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l )

>

> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

>

> > Time,

>

> > _bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...)

>

> > writes:

>

> >

>

> > I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

>

> > alarm. " This is actually an

>

> > interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

>

> > issue coming up with

>

> > FEMA deployments.

>

> >

>

> > Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

>

> > alarmist "

>

> > however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

>

> >

>

> > Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

>

> > admit the laws are

>

> > as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

>

> > sake of argument

>

> > assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

>

> > systems in

>

> > properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

>

> >

>

> > The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

>

> > of scope of

>

> > practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

>

> > management (mid 1980's)

>

> > and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

>

> > systems since

>

> > Katrina and the other major storms of late?

>

> >

>

> > Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

>

> >

>

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

>

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

>

> > Protection Consultant

>

> >

>

> > _LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...)

>

> >

>

> > begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

>

> >

>

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> >

>

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

>

> > events; Small minds

>

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

>

> > reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

National waters end at 12 miles, with most countries claiming out to 200nm as

their " exclusive economic zone " or similar. Areas where it isn't wide enough,

they either have a " historical answer " or they split the difference between the

shorelines. There is also a lot of talk about " natural boundaries " underwater,

and governments are now trying to claim the entire continental shelf as their

exclusive area, which is why there are actually quite a few (governmental)

survey operations on the polar ice (and one russian flag underwater.)

Austin

> By treaty the international waters begin at 12 miles but the US maintains

> jurisdiction out to 200 miles for fisheries, etc. There are exceptions

> that are modified by treaty such as the Florida Straits with Cuba and off of

> the Coast of Alaska.

>

> Kirk

> EMT-B

>

>

> In a message dated 6/29/2010 11:37:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> lnmolino@... writes:

>

> And I spoke to a long time USCG Officer whom I know well and he stated

> that

> the USCG has no jurisdiction on issues related to EMS Scope of Practice on

>

> a vessel inside US Territorial Waters but that there are training

> requirements for certain USCG licenses as far as medical training is

> concerned.

>

> Is the 12 mile a HARD number? I've heard all sorts of numbers as high as

> 250 miles out and such.

>

> Gene was right this crap is confusing.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection

> Consultant

>

> LNMolino@...

>

> (Cell Phone)

>

> " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 6/29/2010 11:14:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> summedic@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> I just contacted my local Coast Guard office, of course they were busy

> with

> hurrican readiness, but I did find out that international waters start 12

> miles from shore. I should have more infomation on international medical

> regulations later, I hope.

>

> Sent from my iPhone,

> McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

>

> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:44 AM, _lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...)

> wrote:

>

> The Coast Guard has regulations that affect how medical care is given?

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

>

> _LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...)

>

> (Cell Phone)

>

> " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> In a message dated 6/29/2010 7:19:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> _lpowell@..._ (mailto:lpowell@...) writes:

>

> Jim,

>

> Actually, weather at the dock or not Coast Guard still has authority

> over the vessel. There are also are agreements among USCG, OSHA and MMS

> which allow them to enforce and or report if a violation is noted. Also

> OSHA's jurisdiction does extent beyond the shoreline....

>

> Les

>

> NREMT-Paramedic, HM-M, CSST, SAPA, RSO, AHA-TCF

>

> Senior Safety Coordinator / Emergency Response Coordinator

>

> Westlake Chemical

>

> P.O. Box 228

>

> 36045 LA 30

>

> Geismar, LA 70734-0228

>

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> (mailto:_lpowell@..._ (mailto:lpowell@...) )

>

> Telephone:

>

> Fax:

>

> Cell: 225.439-6552

>

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>

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>

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> http:www.gamaid.org

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>

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>

> " Next to creating a life, the finest thing a man can do is save one. " -

> Abraham Lincoln

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _

>

> (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) )

>

> [mailto:__texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l )

> _ (mailto:_texasems-l _

> (mailto:texasems-l )

> ) ] On

> Behalf Of james davis

> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 22:36

> To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _

> (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) )

>

> Subject: Re: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> what i was told @ being tied up is osha is in charge and when you are

> way from the dock it's the coast guard. i don't know the source of that.

> i asked and was told.

>

> jim davis

>

> --- On Mon, 6/28/10, DeFrance __v.defrance@..._

> (mailto:_v.defrance@...) _

> (mailto:_v.defrance@..._ (mailto:v.defrance@...) )

> > wrote:

>

> From: DeFrance __v.defrance@..._

> (mailto:_v.defrance@...)

> _ (mailto:_v.defrance@..._ (mailto:v.defrance@...) )

>

>>

> Subject: Re: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

> To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _

> (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) )

>

>

> Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 4:41 PM

>

> What Les posted helped, but at what point is it off-shore? Is working on

> a barge permanently tied up to the dock off-shore and under federal

> control?

>

> DeFrance

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: Brad Sattler __bradsattler@..._

> (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _ (mailto:_bradsattler@..._

> (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

> >

>

> To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _

> (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) )

>

>

>

> Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 9:58:58 AM

>

> Subject: Re: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

> Louis,

>

> Sorry my questions sound alarmist. I'm just trying to understand

> something I don't understand. The answer I've heard is " I'm sure other

> people know. " This is a very intelligent/informed group but no answer

> has surfaced.

>

> I wasn't aware that Stafford covers that bridge. Both are personnel

> acting outside their normal operations area and without a state agency

> overseeing them, which is why I made the connection.

>

> I can't access the actual Stafford Act where I am (downloads keep dying

> out here), but I think I should give it a good read. Shame it doesn't

> answer the offshore worker question though. :-/

>

> -Brad

>

>

>

>> From: __lnmolino@..._ (mailto:_lnmolino@...) _

> (mailto:_lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) )

> __lnmolino@..._

> (mailto:_lnmolino@...)

> _ (mailto:_lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) )

> >

>

>> Subject: Say what? (WAS Re: FW: Oil Spill Operations)

>

>> To: __texasems-l _ (mailto:_texasems-l ) _

>

> (mailto:_texasems-l _ (mailto:texasems-l ) )

>

>

>

>> Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:55 AM

>

>>

>

>>

>

>> In a message dated 6/28/2010 11:29:25 A.M. Central Daylight

>

>> Time,

>

>> __bradsattler@..._ (mailto:_bradsattler@...) _

> (mailto:_bradsattler@..._ (mailto:bradsattler@...) )

>

>

>> writes:

>

>>

>

>> I don't understand how I'm " sounding a lawsuit

>

>> alarm. " This is actually an

>

>> interesting topic for me, because I can see the same

>

>> issue coming up with

>

>> FEMA deployments.

>

>>

>

>> Well I can see how someone might see your posts as " lawsuit

>

>> alarmist "

>

>> however that's another thread totally so I'll skip it.

>

>>

>

>> Just how do you see these issues from offshore where I

>

>> admit the laws are

>

>> as clear as mud to a FEMA deployment in the US and for the

>

>> sake of argument

>

>> assuming that they are properly requested through the EMAC

>

>> systems in

>

>> properly declared Stafford Act disaster?

>

>>

>

>> The compacts and federal law have dealt with these issues

>

>> of scope of

>

>> practice for well as long as I have been doing emergency

>

>> management (mid 1980's)

>

>> and in many cases they have very much improved upon those

>

>> systems since

>

>> Katrina and the other major storms of late?

>

>>

>

>> Apples and guavas isn't even close in this case.

>

>>

>

>> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

>

>> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

>> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire

>

>> Protection Consultant

>

>>

>

>> __LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

> (mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) )

>

>

>>

>

>> begin_of_the_skype_highlighting

> end_of_the_skype_highlighting (Cell Phone)

>

>>

>

>> " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

>>

>

>> " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss

>

>> events; Small minds

>

>> discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat &

>

>> reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

>>

>

>>

>

>>

>

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[Guest guest]

well Gene I have heard of " grain " for medicine measurement. But I don't

remember the conversion rate. LOL

Dawn

[Guest guest]

gonna have to file that 3 leagues = the length that a ship board cannon

could fire eh.

[Guest guest]

so why would we use 60 mg (roughly 10% lower than the actual value) as an

approximation when 65 mg is almost exact?

Hint: The Mayans knew why.

ck

In a message dated 7/3/2010 16:22:13 Central Daylight Time,

swbowman@... writes:

The official conversion is:

1 pound = 453.592 grams = 7,000 grains

1 grain = 64.798 91 milligram

Just my .031 cents worth (adjusted for inflation and taxes)

well Gene I have heard of " grain " for medicine measurement. But I don't

remember the conversion rate. LOL

Dawn

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[Guest guest]

It is a " rough " measurement, but each grain is approximately 60 mg.

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

well Gene I have heard of " grain " for medicine measurement. But I don't

remember the conversion rate. LOL

Dawn

[Guest guest]

It is a " rough " measurement, but each grain is approximately 60 mg.

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

well Gene I have heard of " grain " for medicine measurement. But I don't

remember the conversion rate. LOL

Dawn

[Guest guest]

It is a " rough " measurement, but each grain is approximately 60 mg.

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

well Gene I have heard of " grain " for medicine measurement. But I don't

remember the conversion rate. LOL

Dawn

[Guest guest]

The official conversion is:

1 pound = 453.592 grams = 7,000 grains

1 grain = 64.798 91 milligram

Just my .031 cents worth (adjusted for inflation and taxes)

well Gene I have heard of " grain " for medicine measurement. But I don't

remember the conversion rate. LOL

Dawn