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> For surfers who have been following my amazing journey...I got a

> refusal message from CIGNA today. BUT NOT FOR THE RESURF. They

> won't even pay their part of the Celebrex that might keep me afloat

> until they deny the resurf submission. Are these people human, or

> what? Androids/replicants like Roy Batty had more humanity about

> them than this. They were, at least " more human than human " . The

> CIGNA people seem to live on a planet that's not yet been

> contaminated by humanity.

>

> I can't walk, and they don't think I've showed " evidence of

> osteoarthritis " .

Hey, Alan:

If you chip in for the C4, I'll let you use the flamethrower some.

Steve (bilat C+ 4/20/04, Amstutz)

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Hello Alan,

I followed your ' story' and everytime I read something it makes my blood

run a little bit faster (that is the only good thing about it). I had awful

fights with my Dutch insurance company. To be honoust I'm so much knocked

over about how the system works I don't even dear to put the name of the

company on this site.

However, it is not personal, you are fighting for the bread of BHR surgeons

as well. Can't you let your (planned) surgeon phone your insurance company

and let him make a few things clear.

Also, if CIGNA payed for other patients, could that be discrimination?

It is all about (a lot) of money but I do think the acceptance of the BHR

procedures by the national healthcare systems (worldwide) will be

irreversable...but insurance companies will keep trying to push it away.

Further, I don't know enough about the American system to give you taylor

made advice. I hope you don't make the same mistake as I did, giving all my

energy to the insurance fight while I should have been reading the Dalai

Lama to prepare myself for surgery.

Good luck, Mijke (LBHR 02/06/04 DeSmet)

! I have been ' eating' Celebrex for 1.5 year and I have been told it makes

your bone softer as well. If you take it, don't hesitate with a bone density

test (but who will have to pay for that...right?)

----Original Message Follows----

(Twice since you've been resurfed twice.) Questions: Are you a US

resurfer? 2) Are you insured? 3) Did your US insurance carrier cover

either or both? 4) (Covering my eyes because I almost don't want to

know) If insurance did pay, who's your insurance provider?

For surfers who have been following my amazing journey...I got a

refusal message from CIGNA today. BUT NOT FOR THE RESURF. They

won't even pay their part of the Celebrex that might keep me afloat

until they deny the resurf submission. Are these people human, or

what? Androids/replicants like Roy Batty had more humanity about

them than this. They were, at least " more human than human " . The

CIGNA people seem to live on a planet that's not yet been

contaminated by humanity.

I can't walk, and they don't think I've showed " evidence of

osteoarthritis " .

But they're probably right...this must appear to be some subliminal

attempt on my part to impersonate Chester Good from " Gunsmoke "

(though I don't watch TV and never saw the show. Maybe I should

include that information in future requests?)

Anyway, it's late...and my life starts early.

Hobble on, Hippies.

Alan

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How much will it take...and will the deconstruction be utter, absoute

and beyond repair. If so...where do I sign...and how much do I send?

(For those who don't follow such things, references to Roy Batty and

the replicants were from a classic sci fi movie from

1982. " Bladerunner " . It's based on K. Dick story. I always

thought of it as a cinematic parable about American labor

relations...but now, I see it's more fully a parable about how

corporate America treats the rest of us.)

Hobble on, Hippies...and what a march will we make.

Alan

>

> > For surfers who have been following my amazing journey...I got a

> > refusal message from CIGNA today. BUT NOT FOR THE RESURF. They

> > won't even pay their part of the Celebrex that might keep me

afloat

> > until they deny the resurf submission. Are these people human,

or

> > what? Androids/replicants like Roy Batty had more humanity about

> > them than this. They were, at least " more human than human " .

The

> > CIGNA people seem to live on a planet that's not yet been

> > contaminated by humanity.

> >

> > I can't walk, and they don't think I've showed " evidence of

> > osteoarthritis " .

>

> Hey, Alan:

>

> If you chip in for the C4, I'll let you use the flamethrower some.

>

> Steve (bilat C+ 4/20/04, Amstutz)

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Hi Alan. I've been resurfaced once and am getting ready for my second in

September.

I'm with Blue Shield of Calif. and they did cover 2/3 of my costs (hospital

portion) the

first time, so I'm assuming and hoping they'll at least do the same the second

time

around. I'm sorry about your insurance nightmare and sincerely hope your luck

turns around soon. Best, Donna LBHR 11/13/02 De Smet RBHR 9/7/04

> (Twice since you've been resurfed twice.) Questions: Are you a US

> resurfer? 2) Are you insured? 3) Did your US insurance carrier cover

> either or both? 4) (Covering my eyes because I almost don't want to

> know) If insurance did pay, who's your insurance provider?

>

> For surfers who have been following my amazing journey...I got a

> refusal message from CIGNA today. BUT NOT FOR THE RESURF. They

> won't even pay their part of the Celebrex that might keep me afloat

> until they deny the resurf submission. Are these people human, or

> what? Androids/replicants like Roy Batty had more humanity about

> them than this. They were, at least " more human than human " . The

> CIGNA people seem to live on a planet that's not yet been

> contaminated by humanity.

>

> I can't walk, and they don't think I've showed " evidence of

> osteoarthritis " .

>

> But they're probably right...this must appear to be some subliminal

> attempt on my part to impersonate Chester Good from " Gunsmoke "

> (though I don't watch TV and never saw the show. Maybe I should

> include that information in future requests?)

>

> Anyway, it's late...and my life starts early.

>

> Hobble on, Hippies.

> Alan

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Hi Alan. I've been resurfaced once and am getting ready for my second in

September.

I'm with Blue Shield of Calif. and they did cover 2/3 of my costs (hospital

portion) the

first time, so I'm assuming and hoping they'll at least do the same the second

time

around. I'm sorry about your insurance nightmare and sincerely hope your luck

turns around soon. Best, Donna LBHR 11/13/02 De Smet RBHR 9/7/04

> (Twice since you've been resurfed twice.) Questions: Are you a US

> resurfer? 2) Are you insured? 3) Did your US insurance carrier cover

> either or both? 4) (Covering my eyes because I almost don't want to

> know) If insurance did pay, who's your insurance provider?

>

> For surfers who have been following my amazing journey...I got a

> refusal message from CIGNA today. BUT NOT FOR THE RESURF. They

> won't even pay their part of the Celebrex that might keep me afloat

> until they deny the resurf submission. Are these people human, or

> what? Androids/replicants like Roy Batty had more humanity about

> them than this. They were, at least " more human than human " . The

> CIGNA people seem to live on a planet that's not yet been

> contaminated by humanity.

>

> I can't walk, and they don't think I've showed " evidence of

> osteoarthritis " .

>

> But they're probably right...this must appear to be some subliminal

> attempt on my part to impersonate Chester Good from " Gunsmoke "

> (though I don't watch TV and never saw the show. Maybe I should

> include that information in future requests?)

>

> Anyway, it's late...and my life starts early.

>

> Hobble on, Hippies.

> Alan

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