Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 >My name is Wayne from Toms River, NJ. I had my surgery Oct 2004. >I returned to work, as a letter carrier, six months ago. I perform a >physical job everyday, and work out about four to five times a week. >However, I do not feel 100%. I notice that my muscle above the knee >has not returned to its old form. First off, are there any problems because of this? I mean, are there functional problems (leg collapses, unsteady, can't climb stairs, easily tired, ...) or does it just look smaller? Have you had it strength tested? A physio can do that, or a trainer at the local gym can, or (if you don't mind a lack of precision) you can by hopping an a few leg machines and keeping track of pounds/reps on each leg. Which muscle above the knee? The main thigh muscle is called the quadriceps. Mine was a lot smaller than the good leg and took a couple of years to grow back. The muscle immediately above the knn and on the inside is the vastus medialis. This is used for extending the leg fully and only kick in within the last 15 degrees or so. If this is on the small side, that is a bit more difficult to get to, and most leg strengthening exercises actually miss it. What exercises do you do now? There was an excahnge some weeks back (ca. march 20, 2004) about pistols: http://www.powerathletesmag.com/pages/pistols.htm These are what did it for me. They are great, but follow form very exactly, and gradually work up to them, either by having a bench to sit on or by using a door frame. Don't underestimate these! I have a bunch of college kids I train with and pistols routinely exhaust good athletes -- even those that can pile on the weights and do killer squat sets have trouble completing a set of these. If you are really hardcore, break your date with Lois Lane and hang on to a 25 lb or more dumbell. [Actually, I do mostly body weight exercises now and a lot of these guys are starting using these, since they get a better burn than freeweights. Pistols, as with all bodyweight exercises are massively compound, meaning that you will conscript just about everything when you do them. Don't be surprised if your abs, calves or something else is sore the next day -- this just shows where your stabilizers aren't being trained along with the rest of you, that's all.] If these seem a bit much, then tell me a bit more about what you are doing and where the problem is and maybe I can come up with a few more suggestions. My mother-in-law used one fo those muscle stimulation machines for her shoulder. I doubt that this will help you much. In her case, she was getting over frozen shoulder and the muscles were pretty much atrophied. This device allowed her to use them at a low level. Since the leg muscles are designed to move your bodyweight, getting enough stimulation to emulate that might mean they should hook you up to an arc welder... Cheers, Jeff >I have tried many excercises and >stretching and still nothing. I have spoke with Dr. Amstutz and he >said that muscle is the last muscle to regain strength,or I may have >some nerve damage that may or maynot inprove. It has been nine >months, and I am a little concerned. >_Has anyone had this same problem? >_Anyone use a Muscle Stimulation T.M.S. unit for the leg muscles,and >can i hurt my hip using it? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 >My name is Wayne from Toms River, NJ. I had my surgery Oct 2004. >I returned to work, as a letter carrier, six months ago. I perform a >physical job everyday, and work out about four to five times a week. >However, I do not feel 100%. I notice that my muscle above the knee >has not returned to its old form. First off, are there any problems because of this? I mean, are there functional problems (leg collapses, unsteady, can't climb stairs, easily tired, ...) or does it just look smaller? Have you had it strength tested? A physio can do that, or a trainer at the local gym can, or (if you don't mind a lack of precision) you can by hopping an a few leg machines and keeping track of pounds/reps on each leg. Which muscle above the knee? The main thigh muscle is called the quadriceps. Mine was a lot smaller than the good leg and took a couple of years to grow back. The muscle immediately above the knn and on the inside is the vastus medialis. This is used for extending the leg fully and only kick in within the last 15 degrees or so. If this is on the small side, that is a bit more difficult to get to, and most leg strengthening exercises actually miss it. What exercises do you do now? There was an excahnge some weeks back (ca. march 20, 2004) about pistols: http://www.powerathletesmag.com/pages/pistols.htm These are what did it for me. They are great, but follow form very exactly, and gradually work up to them, either by having a bench to sit on or by using a door frame. Don't underestimate these! I have a bunch of college kids I train with and pistols routinely exhaust good athletes -- even those that can pile on the weights and do killer squat sets have trouble completing a set of these. If you are really hardcore, break your date with Lois Lane and hang on to a 25 lb or more dumbell. [Actually, I do mostly body weight exercises now and a lot of these guys are starting using these, since they get a better burn than freeweights. Pistols, as with all bodyweight exercises are massively compound, meaning that you will conscript just about everything when you do them. Don't be surprised if your abs, calves or something else is sore the next day -- this just shows where your stabilizers aren't being trained along with the rest of you, that's all.] If these seem a bit much, then tell me a bit more about what you are doing and where the problem is and maybe I can come up with a few more suggestions. My mother-in-law used one fo those muscle stimulation machines for her shoulder. I doubt that this will help you much. In her case, she was getting over frozen shoulder and the muscles were pretty much atrophied. This device allowed her to use them at a low level. Since the leg muscles are designed to move your bodyweight, getting enough stimulation to emulate that might mean they should hook you up to an arc welder... Cheers, Jeff >I have tried many excercises and >stretching and still nothing. I have spoke with Dr. Amstutz and he >said that muscle is the last muscle to regain strength,or I may have >some nerve damage that may or maynot inprove. It has been nine >months, and I am a little concerned. >_Has anyone had this same problem? >_Anyone use a Muscle Stimulation T.M.S. unit for the leg muscles,and >can i hurt my hip using it? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hey Wayne! You need the advice of a Physical Therapist who is trained and experienced in the use of Electrical Stimulation...many are...but not all may be using that modality on a daily basis (I am an Occupational Therapist with many years of non-applicable pediatric experience)...I'm sure your OS would give you a referral for an evaluation. ...and if you've already seen a therapist with no results...see a different one! Not all therapists are created equal. You just need some expert advise for your particular problem and a good treatment plan with follow up....that's my advice! I'll bet you'll see results! Susie in Memphis In surfacehippy , J Gaynor/jqhome wrote: > > >My name is Wayne from Toms River, NJ. I had my surgery Oct 2004. > >I returned to work, as a letter carrier, six months ago. I perform a > >physical job everyday, and work out about four to five times a week. > >However, I do not feel 100%. I notice that my muscle above the knee > >has not returned to its old form. > > First off, are there any problems because of this? I mean, are there > functional problems (leg collapses, unsteady, can't climb stairs, easily > tired, ...) or does it just look smaller? Have you had it strength tested? > A physio can do that, or a trainer at the local gym can, or (if you don't > mind a lack of precision) you can by hopping an a few leg machines and > keeping track of pounds/reps on each leg. > > Which muscle above the knee? The main thigh muscle is called the > quadriceps. Mine was a lot smaller than the good leg and took a couple of > years to grow back. The muscle immediately above the knn and on the inside > is the vastus medialis. This is used for extending the leg fully and only > kick in within the last 15 degrees or so. If this is on the small side, > that is a bit more difficult to get to, and most leg strengthening > exercises actually miss it. > > What exercises do you do now? There was an excahnge some weeks back (ca. > march 20, 2004) about pistols: > http://www.powerathletesmag.com/pages/pistols.htm These are what did it for > me. They are great, but follow form very exactly, and gradually work up to > them, either by having a bench to sit on or by using a door frame. Don't > underestimate these! I have a bunch of college kids I train with and > pistols routinely exhaust good athletes -- even those that can pile on the > weights and do killer squat sets have trouble completing a set of these. If > you are really hardcore, break your date with Lois Lane and hang on to a 25 > lb or more dumbell. [Actually, I do mostly body weight exercises now and a > lot of these guys are starting using these, since they get a better burn > than freeweights. Pistols, as with all bodyweight exercises are massively > compound, meaning that you will conscript just about everything when you do > them. Don't be surprised if your abs, calves or something else is sore the > next day -- this just shows where your stabilizers aren't being trained > along with the rest of you, that's all.] > > If these seem a bit much, then tell me a bit more about what you are doing > and where the problem is and maybe I can come up with a few more > suggestions. > > My mother-in-law used one fo those muscle stimulation machines for her > shoulder. I doubt that this will help you much. In her case, she was > getting over frozen shoulder and the muscles were pretty much atrophied. > This device allowed her to use them at a low level. Since the leg muscles > are designed to move your bodyweight, getting enough stimulation to emulate > that might mean they should hook you up to an arc welder... > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > >I have tried many excercises and > >stretching and still nothing. I have spoke with Dr. Amstutz and he > >said that muscle is the last muscle to regain strength,or I may have > >some nerve damage that may or maynot inprove. It has been nine > >months, and I am a little concerned. > >_Has anyone had this same problem? > >_Anyone use a Muscle Stimulation T.M.S. unit for the leg muscles,and > >can i hurt my hip using it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hey Wayne! You need the advice of a Physical Therapist who is trained and experienced in the use of Electrical Stimulation...many are...but not all may be using that modality on a daily basis (I am an Occupational Therapist with many years of non-applicable pediatric experience)...I'm sure your OS would give you a referral for an evaluation. ...and if you've already seen a therapist with no results...see a different one! Not all therapists are created equal. You just need some expert advise for your particular problem and a good treatment plan with follow up....that's my advice! I'll bet you'll see results! Susie in Memphis In surfacehippy , J Gaynor/jqhome wrote: > > >My name is Wayne from Toms River, NJ. I had my surgery Oct 2004. > >I returned to work, as a letter carrier, six months ago. I perform a > >physical job everyday, and work out about four to five times a week. > >However, I do not feel 100%. I notice that my muscle above the knee > >has not returned to its old form. > > First off, are there any problems because of this? I mean, are there > functional problems (leg collapses, unsteady, can't climb stairs, easily > tired, ...) or does it just look smaller? Have you had it strength tested? > A physio can do that, or a trainer at the local gym can, or (if you don't > mind a lack of precision) you can by hopping an a few leg machines and > keeping track of pounds/reps on each leg. > > Which muscle above the knee? The main thigh muscle is called the > quadriceps. Mine was a lot smaller than the good leg and took a couple of > years to grow back. The muscle immediately above the knn and on the inside > is the vastus medialis. This is used for extending the leg fully and only > kick in within the last 15 degrees or so. If this is on the small side, > that is a bit more difficult to get to, and most leg strengthening > exercises actually miss it. > > What exercises do you do now? There was an excahnge some weeks back (ca. > march 20, 2004) about pistols: > http://www.powerathletesmag.com/pages/pistols.htm These are what did it for > me. They are great, but follow form very exactly, and gradually work up to > them, either by having a bench to sit on or by using a door frame. Don't > underestimate these! I have a bunch of college kids I train with and > pistols routinely exhaust good athletes -- even those that can pile on the > weights and do killer squat sets have trouble completing a set of these. If > you are really hardcore, break your date with Lois Lane and hang on to a 25 > lb or more dumbell. [Actually, I do mostly body weight exercises now and a > lot of these guys are starting using these, since they get a better burn > than freeweights. Pistols, as with all bodyweight exercises are massively > compound, meaning that you will conscript just about everything when you do > them. Don't be surprised if your abs, calves or something else is sore the > next day -- this just shows where your stabilizers aren't being trained > along with the rest of you, that's all.] > > If these seem a bit much, then tell me a bit more about what you are doing > and where the problem is and maybe I can come up with a few more > suggestions. > > My mother-in-law used one fo those muscle stimulation machines for her > shoulder. I doubt that this will help you much. In her case, she was > getting over frozen shoulder and the muscles were pretty much atrophied. > This device allowed her to use them at a low level. Since the leg muscles > are designed to move your bodyweight, getting enough stimulation to emulate > that might mean they should hook you up to an arc welder... > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > >I have tried many excercises and > >stretching and still nothing. I have spoke with Dr. Amstutz and he > >said that muscle is the last muscle to regain strength,or I may have > >some nerve damage that may or maynot inprove. It has been nine > >months, and I am a little concerned. > >_Has anyone had this same problem? > >_Anyone use a Muscle Stimulation T.M.S. unit for the leg muscles,and > >can i hurt my hip using it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Don't push it. You're not even one year post op yet. And even at one year, you'll still only be back to 90% if you're lucky. Bouncing back from surgery is something that takes time, and it works better if you give it the time it needs and take it slowly. From: tavapero To: surfacehippy Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:47:43 -0000 Subject: muscle stimulation _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Just adding a word of caution on the pistols – there's lots of warnings from the medical and physical therapy communities against loading the knee beyond 90-degrees and doing deep knee bends, particularly on an injured or weakened knee. You should check with knowledgeable and trusted sources before you attempt them. There are other exercises that work the stabilizer (surrounding) muscles other than pistols. Dave > >My name is Wayne from Toms River, NJ. I had my surgery Oct 2004. > >I returned to work, as a letter carrier, six months ago. I perform a > >physical job everyday, and work out about four to five times a week. > >However, I do not feel 100%. I notice that my muscle above the knee > >has not returned to its old form. > > First off, are there any problems because of this? I mean, are there > functional problems (leg collapses, unsteady, can't climb stairs, easily > tired, ...) or does it just look smaller? Have you had it strength tested? > A physio can do that, or a trainer at the local gym can, or (if you don't > mind a lack of precision) you can by hopping an a few leg machines and > keeping track of pounds/reps on each leg. > > Which muscle above the knee? The main thigh muscle is called the > quadriceps. Mine was a lot smaller than the good leg and took a couple of > years to grow back. The muscle immediately above the knn and on the inside > is the vastus medialis. This is used for extending the leg fully and only > kick in within the last 15 degrees or so. If this is on the small side, > that is a bit more difficult to get to, and most leg strengthening > exercises actually miss it. > > What exercises do you do now? There was an excahnge some weeks back (ca. > march 20, 2004) about pistols: > http://www.powerathletesmag.com/pages/pistols.htm These are what did it for > me. They are great, but follow form very exactly, and gradually work up to > them, either by having a bench to sit on or by using a door frame. Don't > underestimate these! I have a bunch of college kids I train with and > pistols routinely exhaust good athletes -- even those that can pile on the > weights and do killer squat sets have trouble completing a set of these. If > you are really hardcore, break your date with Lois Lane and hang on to a 25 > lb or more dumbell. [Actually, I do mostly body weight exercises now and a > lot of these guys are starting using these, since they get a better burn > than freeweights. Pistols, as with all bodyweight exercises are massively > compound, meaning that you will conscript just about everything when you do > them. Don't be surprised if your abs, calves or something else is sore the > next day -- this just shows where your stabilizers aren't being trained > along with the rest of you, that's all.] > > If these seem a bit much, then tell me a bit more about what you are doing > and where the problem is and maybe I can come up with a few more > suggestions. > > My mother-in-law used one fo those muscle stimulation machines for her > shoulder. I doubt that this will help you much. In her case, she was > getting over frozen shoulder and the muscles were pretty much atrophied. > This device allowed her to use them at a low level. Since the leg muscles > are designed to move your bodyweight, getting enough stimulation to emulate > that might mean they should hook you up to an arc welder... > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > >I have tried many excercises and > >stretching and still nothing. I have spoke with Dr. Amstutz and he > >said that muscle is the last muscle to regain strength,or I may have > >some nerve damage that may or maynot inprove. It has been nine > >months, and I am a little concerned. > >_Has anyone had this same problem? > >_Anyone use a Muscle Stimulation T.M.S. unit for the leg muscles,and > >can i hurt my hip using it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 HI Edith,you asked about where my leg was sore to the touch.That area is just above my knee and to the inside. All i can feel there is my bone, and on my other leg the vastas medealis muscle is there.I should also mention that the area is still somewhat numb from just above the knee down the side of my leg to about the bottom of my calf.This has shown some inprovement, 5 months ago the numbness extended down the leg and accross the inside of my foot.Dr. Amstutz said i had some sensory nerve damage that may or maynot inprove over time. He didnt think this would affect my strenth.I wonder if the muscle problem is some how conected with the nerve problem and numbness. Like Cindy mentioned,my knee hurt more then my hip after surgery.The knee bothered me for about 3 months. I really thought i had cartlidge damage,but it now feels fine besides the numbness.When i was in physical therapy they used a T.M.S. muscle stimulation machine on my leg a few times. I liked it but my Doctor would not authorize its use, and at 140 dollars per session i stopped treatment.I now have use of one that i borrowed from my brother in law who is in medical school.I was thinking it may eleveate some of the numbness or help trigger that muscle somehow.Its not costing anything and it feels good so why not try it for a few weeks.I see my doctor in Oct. for my 1 year checkup,hopefully ill see some inprovement by then. Thanks for the feed back Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 OK Wayne...I'm gonna give this a shot...all three vasti muscles attach proximally to the shaft of the femur....they all unite and become the quadriceps femoris tendon and attach distally to the base of the patella, and indirectly, by means of the patellar ligament to the tuberosity of the tibia. They are all supplied by the femoral nerve and they all perform extension of the knee....they act as a unit so if one head is injured, the other two will take up for it. What came to my attention is the fact that they do in fact attach to the tibial tuberosity so something probably got " tweaked " during surgery and just hasn't had time to recover. Peripheral nerves regenerate verrrry slowly......but they do regenerate. That's my thought for the day...with assistance from my kinesiology book! Susie in Memphis (My Occupational Therapy background is serving me well these days!) > HI Edith,you asked about where my leg was sore to the touch.That area > is just above my knee and to the inside. All i can feel there is my > bone, and on my other leg the vastas medealis muscle is there.I > should also mention that the area is still somewhat numb from just > above the knee down the side of my leg to about the bottom of my > calf.This has shown some inprovement, 5 months ago the numbness > extended down the leg and accross the inside of my foot.Dr. Amstutz > said i had some sensory nerve damage that may or maynot inprove over > time. He didnt think this would affect my strenth.I wonder if the > muscle problem is some how conected with the nerve problem and > numbness. > Like Cindy mentioned,my knee hurt more then my hip after > surgery.The knee bothered me for about 3 months. I really thought i > had cartlidge damage,but it now feels fine besides the numbness.When > i was in physical therapy they used a T.M.S. muscle stimulation > machine on my leg a few times. I liked it but my Doctor would not > authorize its use, and at 140 dollars per session i stopped > treatment.I now have use of one that i borrowed from my brother in > law who is in medical school.I was thinking it may eleveate some of > the numbness or help trigger that muscle somehow.Its not costing > anything and it feels good so why not try it for a few weeks.I see my > doctor in Oct. for my 1 year checkup,hopefully ill see some > inprovement by then. > Thanks for the feed back Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi Wayne, Susie in Memphis has nicely explained how all the guys fit together over that area but it is strange that you are feeling that you have a muscle in place on one side and not on the other.......... I had a thought after I posted the last email to wonder what was there preop and whether there is something happening with your leg muscles that may contributed to your hip wearing........... There is another muscle called the Satorius that comes off the hip top and folds over and down to that knee edge - it fits very closely to the edge of the v medealis but appears to have a distinct tendon of its own that comes more around the inside of the knee........acting more as a wrap around......... As it comes off the hip top it has more chance of being a problem post op than the v medaelis I would have thought....... In addition I think they also can generally damage the ligaments of the knee during the op getting the hip dislocated, so some of us end up with knee hassles/soreness until the ligaments settle down again............ Nerves are responsible for the firing of the muscles though activing chemical changes. My knowledge of physiology doesn't extend to knowing how the muscle fibres would then fire if there wasn't proper nerve input....... (a question for brotherinlaw) and yes then they atrophy.........However while you are right that problems with nerves could be mixed up together with muscles, numbness may not necessarily mean that no nerves are available to operate muscles, it could be a different system of nerves - I suspect we have different ones for sensory hot/cold stuff........again BIL may provide an answer........ Hence if the ones causing the numbness are different from the ones that fire the muscles, hitting them with a TMS machine may have little effect over and above what normal use would achieve.......... Edith LBHR Dr.L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > HI Edith,you asked about where my leg was sore to the touch.That area > is just above my knee and to the inside. All i can feel there is my > bone, and on my other leg the vastas medealis muscle is there.I > should also mention that the area is still somewhat numb from just > above the knee down the side of my leg to about the bottom of my > calf.This has shown some inprovement, 5 months ago the numbness > extended down the leg and accross the inside of my foot.Dr. Amstutz > said i had some sensory nerve damage that may or maynot inprove over > time. He didnt think this would affect my strenth.I wonder if the > muscle problem is some how conected with the nerve problem and > numbness. > Like Cindy mentioned,my knee hurt more then my hip after > surgery.The knee bothered me for about 3 months. I really thought i > had cartlidge damage,but it now feels fine besides the numbness.When > i was in physical therapy they used a T.M.S. muscle stimulation > machine on my leg a few times. I liked it but my Doctor would not > authorize its use, and at 140 dollars per session i stopped > treatment.I now have use of one that i borrowed from my brother in > law who is in medical school.I was thinking it may eleveate some of > the numbness or help trigger that muscle somehow.Its not costing > anything and it feels good so why not try it for a few weeks.I see my > doctor in Oct. for my 1 year checkup,hopefully ill see some > inprovement by then. > Thanks for the feed back Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 > > HI Edith,you asked about where my leg was sore to the touch.That > area > > is just above my knee and to the inside. All i can feel there is my > > bone, and on my other leg the vastas medealis muscle is there.I > > should also mention that the area is still somewhat numb from just > > above the knee down the side of my leg to about the bottom of my > > calf.This has shown some inprovement, 5 months ago the numbness > > extended down the leg and accross the inside of my foot.Dr. Amstutz > > said i had some sensory nerve damage that may or maynot inprove > over > > time. He didnt think this would affect my strenth.I wonder if the > > muscle problem is some how conected with the nerve problem and > > numbness. > > Like Cindy mentioned,my knee hurt more then my hip after > > surgery.The knee bothered me for about 3 months. I really thought i > > had cartlidge damage,but it now feels fine besides the > numbness.When > > i was in physical therapy they used a T.M.S. muscle stimulation > > machine on my leg a few times. I liked it but my Doctor would not > > authorize its use, and at 140 dollars per session i stopped > > treatment.I now have use of one that i borrowed from my brother in > > law who is in medical school.I was thinking it may eleveate some of > > the numbness or help trigger that muscle somehow.Its not costing > > anything and it feels good so why not try it for a few weeks.I see > my > > doctor in Oct. for my 1 year checkup,hopefully ill see some > > inprovement by then. > > Thanks for the feed back Wayne Hey Susie,I guess I should just give it some time and see how it heals over a year or two. Besides this minor problem i feel awsome.Today I took my kids to Seaside Hts. boardwalk must have walked 10 miles, came home went for a quick bike ride,now im watching the yankees get kicked by boston while my leg gets stimulated by the T.M.S. machine.Do you have any opion on that machine for my type of problem? Thanks Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hey Wayne! If I were you, honestly, I'd probably be using the machine too....but I'm the cautious type...first I'd probably call the PT dept. at the rehab cntr or hosp and pick their brains about the machine...appropriate amps/voltage, placement of electrodes, etc...and if I still didn't feel comfortable about it I might pay a PT to come to my house for a demonstration but seems to me that if you're sitting there being stimulated you're already know how the thing works. I was personally cursed with a frozen shoulder several years ago and became quite familiar with that machine...of course 9 months later it thawed out on its own...as frozen shoulders usually do! I'm happy to hear that everthing else is going well for you...as a pre-surgery person who has been monitering these boards and hearing mostly positive comments for about 6 months now ...I feel that I'm getting a big dose of the flip side right now! Susie in Memphis > > > HI Edith,you asked about where my leg was sore to the touch.That > > area > > > is just above my knee and to the inside. All i can feel there is > my > > > bone, and on my other leg the vastas medealis muscle is there.I > > > should also mention that the area is still somewhat numb from > just > > > above the knee down the side of my leg to about the bottom of my > > > calf.This has shown some inprovement, 5 months ago the numbness > > > extended down the leg and accross the inside of my foot.Dr. > Amstutz > > > said i had some sensory nerve damage that may or maynot inprove > > over > > > time. He didnt think this would affect my strenth.I wonder if the > > > muscle problem is some how conected with the nerve problem and > > > numbness. > > > Like Cindy mentioned,my knee hurt more then my hip after > > > surgery.The knee bothered me for about 3 months. I really thought > i > > > had cartlidge damage,but it now feels fine besides the > > numbness.When > > > i was in physical therapy they used a T.M.S. muscle stimulation > > > machine on my leg a few times. I liked it but my Doctor would not > > > authorize its use, and at 140 dollars per session i stopped > > > treatment.I now have use of one that i borrowed from my brother > in > > > law who is in medical school.I was thinking it may eleveate some > of > > > the numbness or help trigger that muscle somehow.Its not costing > > > anything and it feels good so why not try it for a few weeks.I > see > > my > > > doctor in Oct. for my 1 year checkup,hopefully ill see some > > > inprovement by then. > > > Thanks for the feed back Wayne Hey Susie,I guess I should > just give it some time and see how it heals over a year or two. > Besides this minor problem i feel awsome.Today I took my kids to > Seaside Hts. boardwalk must have walked 10 miles, came home went for > a quick bike ride,now im watching the yankees get kicked by boston > while my leg gets stimulated by the T.M.S. machine.Do you have any > opion on that machine for my type of problem? > Thanks Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Hey Wayne! If I were you, honestly, I'd probably be using the machine too....but I'm the cautious type...first I'd probably call the PT dept. at the rehab cntr or hosp and pick their brains about the machine...appropriate amps/voltage, placement of electrodes, etc...and if I still didn't feel comfortable about it I might pay a PT to come to my house for a demonstration but seems to me that if you're sitting there being stimulated you're already know how the thing works. I was personally cursed with a frozen shoulder several years ago and became quite familiar with that machine...of course 9 months later it thawed out on its own...as frozen shoulders usually do! I'm happy to hear that everthing else is going well for you...as a pre-surgery person who has been monitering these boards and hearing mostly positive comments for about 6 months now ...I feel that I'm getting a big dose of the flip side right now! Susie in Memphis > > > HI Edith,you asked about where my leg was sore to the touch.That > > area > > > is just above my knee and to the inside. All i can feel there is > my > > > bone, and on my other leg the vastas medealis muscle is there.I > > > should also mention that the area is still somewhat numb from > just > > > above the knee down the side of my leg to about the bottom of my > > > calf.This has shown some inprovement, 5 months ago the numbness > > > extended down the leg and accross the inside of my foot.Dr. > Amstutz > > > said i had some sensory nerve damage that may or maynot inprove > > over > > > time. He didnt think this would affect my strenth.I wonder if the > > > muscle problem is some how conected with the nerve problem and > > > numbness. > > > Like Cindy mentioned,my knee hurt more then my hip after > > > surgery.The knee bothered me for about 3 months. I really thought > i > > > had cartlidge damage,but it now feels fine besides the > > numbness.When > > > i was in physical therapy they used a T.M.S. muscle stimulation > > > machine on my leg a few times. I liked it but my Doctor would not > > > authorize its use, and at 140 dollars per session i stopped > > > treatment.I now have use of one that i borrowed from my brother > in > > > law who is in medical school.I was thinking it may eleveate some > of > > > the numbness or help trigger that muscle somehow.Its not costing > > > anything and it feels good so why not try it for a few weeks.I > see > > my > > > doctor in Oct. for my 1 year checkup,hopefully ill see some > > > inprovement by then. > > > Thanks for the feed back Wayne Hey Susie,I guess I should > just give it some time and see how it heals over a year or two. > Besides this minor problem i feel awsome.Today I took my kids to > Seaside Hts. boardwalk must have walked 10 miles, came home went for > a quick bike ride,now im watching the yankees get kicked by boston > while my leg gets stimulated by the T.M.S. machine.Do you have any > opion on that machine for my type of problem? > Thanks Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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