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What, I can't just be a smartass EMT for the rest of my life?

I am, of course, joking. Yes, Paramedic. Never med school. I've seen

the life of a doctor and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

(hopefully in that order).

And all of the requisite extras - PHTLS, ITLS, PEPP, GEMS, etc, etc.

And, of course, to finish off all of my rescue certifications.

Hopefully, at the end, I'll have at least my HazMat Instructor,

Confined Space Tech, Trench Rescue Tech, Swiftwater Tech, Cave Rescue

Tech, Hi/Lo Angle Tech, and Extrication Tech.

Grand plans. And it'll take a while, of course, but I have years and

years ahead of me. If I can get a couple every year, I'll have met my

goals before I know it and (hopefully) won't be too overwhelmed.

Alyssa Woods, FF/NREMT-B

> I was otherwise occupied today and am too late to get in on this,

> but just let me say that I have learned a BUNCH of stuff tonight

> while reading this thread.

>

> Thanks to Alyssa for presenting this, and thank you Chuck for your

> great questions and information, along with everybody else's

> intelligent participation. This thread covered a lot of good ground

> and, yes, we DO need to know this stuff.

>

> I wish every medic of whatever level could read this thread. Not

> only did it illustrate just how much most of us do not know or have

> forgotten, it also illustrates that we have a wealth of information

> at our fingertips for the asking.

>

> And Alyssa, what are your plans for further education? Paramedic

> school? Med school?

>

> Gene

>

> Re: EMS Challenge (2)

> >

> > BZZZT!

> >

> > Look up the medications in G&G (or even a nursing text) and try

> again.

> >

> > Your medication order would make this patient worse- somnolent,

> markedly

> > tachycardic, and cause a very dry mouth.

> >

> > Choose another selection

> >

> > In a message dated 6/13/2010 14:35:27 Central Daylight Time,

> > ___ExLngHrn@..._ (mailto:__ExLngHrn@...) _

> > (mailto:__ExLngHrn@..._ (mailto:_ExLngHrn@...) ) _

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> > ;

> > writes:

> >

> > Extrapyramidal reaction to her schizophrenia meds? 50 mg of

> Benadryl, IV

> > push?

> >

> > -Wes Ogilvie

> >

> > In a message dated 6/13/2010 2:30:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > ____krin135@..._ (mailto:___krin135@...) _

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> > ;) writes:

> >

> > ok, I'm going to jump in here a bit. Alyssa does NOT have to

> consider

> > these

> >

> > official hints.

> >

> > 1: based on her medication list, what common psychiatric diagnosis

> does

> > the

> > patient suffer?

> >

> > 2: Why would this make her reluctant to describe her visual

> problems in

> > front of her co workers?

> >

> > 3: What kind of dietary indiscretions would make this diagnosis

> worse?

> >

> > 4: Knowing that there is a field treatment for the patient's acute

> > process,

> > what common ALS medication would be indicated?

> >

> > ck

> >

> > In a message dated 6/13/2010 14:00:30 Central Daylight Time,

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> > ;) ) writes:

> >

> > Can I have one of the four promised hints now?

> >

> > -Wes

> >

> > In a message dated 6/13/2010 1:58:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

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> >

> > Believe it or not, you can treat this disease in the field.

> >

> > Alyssa Woods, FF/NREMT-B

> >

> > Sent from the itty bitty keyboard on my iPhone

> >

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> > wrote:

> >

> >> From a treatment standpoint, I'm not seeing anything that I can

> >> provide

> >> actual treatment for, so I'm going to go with the standard oxygen,

> >> IV access,

> >> and cardiac monitoring. Based on some of the neurological aspects,

> >> I'll be

> >> heading towards someplace with neuro capabilities.

> >>

> >> -Wes Ogilvie

> >>

> >>

> >> In a message dated 6/13/2010 1:42:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

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> >>

> >> Her temperature was taken rectally.

> >>

> >> Sent from the itty bitty keyboard on my iPhone

> >>

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> >>>

> >>>> Internal Temperature: 101.2

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> >>> ^ What exactly does this mean? There are several different routes

> >>> for an " internal " temperature, and all have different normal

> >>> parameters.

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What, I can't just be a smartass EMT for the rest of my life?

I am, of course, joking. Yes, Paramedic. Never med school. I've seen

the life of a doctor and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

(hopefully in that order).

And all of the requisite extras - PHTLS, ITLS, PEPP, GEMS, etc, etc.

And, of course, to finish off all of my rescue certifications.

Hopefully, at the end, I'll have at least my HazMat Instructor,

Confined Space Tech, Trench Rescue Tech, Swiftwater Tech, Cave Rescue

Tech, Hi/Lo Angle Tech, and Extrication Tech.

Grand plans. And it'll take a while, of course, but I have years and

years ahead of me. If I can get a couple every year, I'll have met my

goals before I know it and (hopefully) won't be too overwhelmed.

Alyssa Woods, FF/NREMT-B

> I was otherwise occupied today and am too late to get in on this,

> but just let me say that I have learned a BUNCH of stuff tonight

> while reading this thread.

>

> Thanks to Alyssa for presenting this, and thank you Chuck for your

> great questions and information, along with everybody else's

> intelligent participation. This thread covered a lot of good ground

> and, yes, we DO need to know this stuff.

>

> I wish every medic of whatever level could read this thread. Not

> only did it illustrate just how much most of us do not know or have

> forgotten, it also illustrates that we have a wealth of information

> at our fingertips for the asking.

>

> And Alyssa, what are your plans for further education? Paramedic

> school? Med school?

>

> Gene

>

> Re: EMS Challenge (2)

> >

> > BZZZT!

> >

> > Look up the medications in G&G (or even a nursing text) and try

> again.

> >

> > Your medication order would make this patient worse- somnolent,

> markedly

> > tachycardic, and cause a very dry mouth.

> >

> > Choose another selection

> >

> > In a message dated 6/13/2010 14:35:27 Central Daylight Time,

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> > ;

> > writes:

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> > Extrapyramidal reaction to her schizophrenia meds? 50 mg of

> Benadryl, IV

> > push?

> >

> > -Wes Ogilvie

> >

> > In a message dated 6/13/2010 2:30:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

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> > ;) writes:

> >

> > ok, I'm going to jump in here a bit. Alyssa does NOT have to

> consider

> > these

> >

> > official hints.

> >

> > 1: based on her medication list, what common psychiatric diagnosis

> does

> > the

> > patient suffer?

> >

> > 2: Why would this make her reluctant to describe her visual

> problems in

> > front of her co workers?

> >

> > 3: What kind of dietary indiscretions would make this diagnosis

> worse?

> >

> > 4: Knowing that there is a field treatment for the patient's acute

> > process,

> > what common ALS medication would be indicated?

> >

> > ck

> >

> > In a message dated 6/13/2010 14:00:30 Central Daylight Time,

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> > Can I have one of the four promised hints now?

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> >

> > Alyssa Woods, FF/NREMT-B

> >

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> >> -Wes Ogilvie

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add in at least an Associates (either in Life Sciences or EMS) or better

yet a BS, and then we'll talk about what you want do.

by the time you get to the point of qualifying for an advanced degree, the

'medscape' for professional providers, both midlevel (PA, NP) and physician

will have changed substantially.

ck

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amwoods8644@... writes:

What, I can't just be a smartass EMT for the rest of my life?

I am, of course, joking. Yes, Paramedic. Never med school. I've seen

the life of a doctor and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

(hopefully in that order).

And all of the requisite extras - PHTLS, ITLS, PEPP, GEMS, etc, etc.

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Alyssa said

What, I can't just be a smartass EMT for the rest of my life?

Not untill I due, I've got that job Nd have since 1981. They said I

had such potential than.

Here I've only been able tobtravel the globe and obtain the mete title

of Fure Chief.

What a waste.

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There's always law school. Worked for Gandy.

-Wes

In a message dated 6/14/2010 2:45:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

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On Jun 14, 2010, at 14:23, " _rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...) " _rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...)

> wrote:

> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

> _amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:amwoods8644@...) > said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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That was supposed to be BA or preferably a BS but even a BA is better then

nothing at that level.

Oh and Wes I'd sooner have my Sons getting an MFA than a JD!

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" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 2:45:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

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Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

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On Jun 14, 2010, at 14:23, " _rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...) " _rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...)

> wrote:

> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

> _amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:amwoods8644@...) > said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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Until you need free legal advice....

-Wes

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:00:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

lnmolino@... writes:

That was supposed to be BA or preferably a BS but even a BA is better then

nothing at that level.

Oh and Wes I'd sooner have my Sons getting an MFA than a JD!

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FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...)

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" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 2:45:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

_lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) writes:

Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

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__LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _ (mailto:_LNMolino@..._

(mailto:LNMolino@...) )

On Jun 14, 2010, at 14:23, " __rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:_rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...) ) " __rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:_rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...) )

> wrote:

> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

> __amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:_amwoods8644@...) _

(mailto:_amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:amwoods8644@...) ) > said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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I believe I made that point at or around 0650 this am...

ck

In a message dated 6/14/2010 14:24:59 Central Daylight Time,

rob.davis@... writes:

On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods " _amwoods8644@..._

(mailto:amwoods8644@...) > said:

> I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> (hopefully in that order).

While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if I did

not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If you become

an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge courses, you will

ultimately be twice the medical professional that you would have otherwise

been.

There is a reason why physicians and nurses go to college FIRST, and

specialise later. It's the difference between a vocation and a profession.

Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

foundation.

Rob

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" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:02:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

ExLngHrn@... writes:

Until you need free legal advice....

-Wes

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:00:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

_lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) writes:

That was supposed to be BA or preferably a BS but even a BA is better then

nothing at that level.

Oh and Wes I'd sooner have my Sons getting an MFA than a JD!

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

__LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _ (mailto:_LNMolino@..._

(mailto:LNMolino@...) )

(Cell Phone)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 2:45:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

__lnmolino@..._ (mailto:_lnmolino@...) _ (mailto:_lnmolino@..._

(mailto:lnmolino@...) ) writes:

Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

___LNMolino@..._ (mailto:__LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:__LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) ) _

(mailto:__LNMolino@..._

(mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) ) )

On Jun 14, 2010, at 14:23, " ___rob.davis@..._

(mailto:__rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:__rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) ) _

(mailto:__rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:_rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...) ) ) " ___rob.davis@..._

(mailto:__rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:__rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) ) _

(mailto:__rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:_rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...) ) )

> wrote:

> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

> ___amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:__amwoods8644@...) _

(mailto:__amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:_amwoods8644@...) ) _

(mailto:__amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:_amwoods8644@...) _

(mailto:_amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:amwoods8644@...) ) ) > said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:02:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

ExLngHrn@... writes:

Until you need free legal advice....

-Wes

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:00:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

_lnmolino@..._ (mailto:lnmolino@...) writes:

That was supposed to be BA or preferably a BS but even a BA is better then

nothing at that level.

Oh and Wes I'd sooner have my Sons getting an MFA than a JD!

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

__LNMolino@..._ (mailto:_LNMolino@...) _ (mailto:_LNMolino@..._

(mailto:LNMolino@...) )

(Cell Phone)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 2:45:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

__lnmolino@..._ (mailto:_lnmolino@...) _ (mailto:_lnmolino@..._

(mailto:lnmolino@...) ) writes:

Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

___LNMolino@..._ (mailto:__LNMolino@...) _

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(mailto:__LNMolino@..._

(mailto:_LNMolino@...) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@..._ (mailto:LNMolino@...) ) )

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(mailto:__rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:__rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) ) _

(mailto:__rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:_rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...) ) ) " ___rob.davis@..._

(mailto:__rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:__rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) ) _

(mailto:__rob.davis@..._

(mailto:_rob.davis@...) _

(mailto:_rob.davis@..._

(mailto:rob.davis@...) ) )

> wrote:

> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

> ___amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:__amwoods8644@...) _

(mailto:__amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:_amwoods8644@...) ) _

(mailto:__amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:_amwoods8644@...) _

(mailto:_amwoods8644@..._ (mailto:amwoods8644@...) ) ) > said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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On Sunday, June 13, 2010 23:36, wegandy@... said:

> I was otherwise occupied today and am too late to get in on this, but just let

me

> say that I have learned a BUNCH of stuff tonight while reading this thread.

This was indeed an excellent, well presented learning experience all the way

around! Alyssa summed it up well with her forest vs trees comment. One of the

hardest balances to strike in medicine is that of considering both the forest

and the trees, and not leaning too heavily on either. It is all too easy to get

caught up in the details of an intricate PMH and forget to consider that the

current crisis has nothing to do with it. Obviously, I showed that I am as

guilty as anyone of doing that.

I for one hope that we continue to " play these games " here!

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On Sunday, June 13, 2010 23:36, wegandy@... said:

> I was otherwise occupied today and am too late to get in on this, but just let

me

> say that I have learned a BUNCH of stuff tonight while reading this thread.

This was indeed an excellent, well presented learning experience all the way

around! Alyssa summed it up well with her forest vs trees comment. One of the

hardest balances to strike in medicine is that of considering both the forest

and the trees, and not leaning too heavily on either. It is all too easy to get

caught up in the details of an intricate PMH and forget to consider that the

current crisis has nothing to do with it. Obviously, I showed that I am as

guilty as anyone of doing that.

I for one hope that we continue to " play these games " here!

Rob

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On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods " amwoods8644@...> said:

> I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> (hopefully in that order).

While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if I did not

advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If you become an LP

first, before embarking on all the merit badge courses, you will ultimately be

twice the medical professional that you would have otherwise been. There is a

reason why physicians and nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later.

It's the difference between a vocation and a profession.

Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a foundation.

Rob

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On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods " amwoods8644@...> said:

> I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> (hopefully in that order).

While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if I did not

advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If you become an LP

first, before embarking on all the merit badge courses, you will ultimately be

twice the medical professional that you would have otherwise been. There is a

reason why physicians and nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later.

It's the difference between a vocation and a profession.

Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a foundation.

Rob

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Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

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Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

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On Jun 14, 2010, at 14:23, " rob.davis@... "

rob.davis@...

> wrote:

> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

> amwoods8644@...> said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

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Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

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On Jun 14, 2010, at 14:23, " rob.davis@... "

rob.davis@...

> wrote:

> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

> amwoods8644@...> said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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Yea, but then you need to ask the lawyer you trust to see if their

answer was correct. After all, we know our sons and daughters and can

recall with great detail the boneheaded things they did growing

up...wondering if they will ever grow out of that stage.

However, like the JD, an MFA graduate will also be the center of

attention as they perform in front an audience. Just the MFA has a

bigger crowd of onlookers and judges watching their work. LOL

Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES

Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator

Substance Abuse Services Unit

Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of lnmolino@...

Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:10 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: EMS Challenge (2)

touche Counsler

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection

Consultant

LNMolino@...

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" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:02:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

ExLngHrn@... writes:

Until you need free legal advice....

-Wes

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:00:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

_lnmolino@... _

(mailto:lnmolino@... ) writes:

That was supposed to be BA or preferably a BS but even a BA is better

then

nothing at that level.

Oh and Wes I'd sooner have my Sons getting an MFA than a JD!

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection

Consultant

__LNMolino@... _

(mailto:_LNMolino@... ) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@... _

(mailto:LNMolino@... ) )

(Cell Phone)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 2:45:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

__lnmolino@... _

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(mailto:_lnmolino@... _

(mailto:lnmolino@... ) ) writes:

Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

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> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

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said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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Yea, but then you need to ask the lawyer you trust to see if their

answer was correct. After all, we know our sons and daughters and can

recall with great detail the boneheaded things they did growing

up...wondering if they will ever grow out of that stage.

However, like the JD, an MFA graduate will also be the center of

attention as they perform in front an audience. Just the MFA has a

bigger crowd of onlookers and judges watching their work. LOL

Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES

Tobacco Prevention & Control Program Coordinator

Substance Abuse Services Unit

Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division

________________________________

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of lnmolino@...

Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:10 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: EMS Challenge (2)

touche Counsler

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection

Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:02:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

ExLngHrn@... writes:

Until you need free legal advice....

-Wes

In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:00:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

_lnmolino@... _

(mailto:lnmolino@... ) writes:

That was supposed to be BA or preferably a BS but even a BA is better

then

nothing at that level.

Oh and Wes I'd sooner have my Sons getting an MFA than a JD!

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection

Consultant

__LNMolino@... _

(mailto:_LNMolino@... ) _

(mailto:_LNMolino@... _

(mailto:LNMolino@... ) )

(Cell Phone)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

In a message dated 6/14/2010 2:45:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

__lnmolino@... _

(mailto:_lnmolino@... ) _

(mailto:_lnmolino@... _

(mailto:lnmolino@... ) ) writes:

Wow twice in a week I agree with Rob .

Get at least a bs or preferably a BS degree.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

(Cell)

___LNMolino@... _

(mailto:__LNMolino@... ) _

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(mailto:_LNMolino@... ) ) _

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> wrote:

> On Monday, June 14, 2010 02:11, " Alyssa Woods "

> ___amwoods8644@... _

(mailto:__amwoods8644@... ) _

(mailto:__amwoods8644@... _

(mailto:_amwoods8644@... ) ) _

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said:

>

> > I intend to get my EMT Instructor, EMT-P, CCT, EMT-T, and LP

> > (hopefully in that order).

>

> While those are admirable and ambitious goals, I would be remiss if

> I did not advise you that you should probably reverse that order. If

> you become an LP first, before embarking on all the merit badge

> courses, you will ultimately be twice the medical professional that

> you would have otherwise been. There is a reason why physicians and

> nurses go to college FIRST, and specialise later. It's the

> difference between a vocation and a profession.

>

> Be a professional. You never get a second chance to establish a

> foundation.

>

> Rob

>

>

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On Monday, June 14, 2010 15:08, krin135@... said:

> I believe I made that point at or around 0650 this am...

So, you're saying that great minds think alike?

Rob

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On Monday, June 14, 2010 15:08, krin135@... said:

> I believe I made that point at or around 0650 this am...

So, you're saying that great minds think alike?

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Wow, we are making some fantasic progress here. I completely agree with Rob.

Bravo.

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On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:19 PM, " rob.davis@... "

rob.davis@...> wrote:

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 23:36, wegandy@... said:

> I was otherwise occupied today and am too late to get in on this, but just let

me

> say that I have learned a BUNCH of stuff tonight while reading this thread.

This was indeed an excellent, well presented learning experience all the way

around! Alyssa summed it up well with her forest vs trees comment. One of the

hardest balances to strike in medicine is that of considering both the forest

and the trees, and not leaning too heavily on either. It is all too easy to get

caught up in the details of an intricate PMH and forget to consider that the

current crisis has nothing to do with it. Obviously, I showed that I am as

guilty as anyone of doing that.

I for one hope that we continue to " play these games " here!

Rob

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Wow, we are making some fantasic progress here. I completely agree with Rob.

Bravo.

Sent from my iPhone,

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On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:19 PM, " rob.davis@... "

rob.davis@...> wrote:

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 23:36, wegandy@... said:

> I was otherwise occupied today and am too late to get in on this, but just let

me

> say that I have learned a BUNCH of stuff tonight while reading this thread.

This was indeed an excellent, well presented learning experience all the way

around! Alyssa summed it up well with her forest vs trees comment. One of the

hardest balances to strike in medicine is that of considering both the forest

and the trees, and not leaning too heavily on either. It is all too easy to get

caught up in the details of an intricate PMH and forget to consider that the

current crisis has nothing to do with it. Obviously, I showed that I am as

guilty as anyone of doing that.

I for one hope that we continue to " play these games " here!

Rob

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Wow, we are making some fantasic progress here. I completely agree with Rob.

Bravo.

Sent from my iPhone,

McGee, EMT-P, EMT-T

On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:19 PM, " rob.davis@... "

rob.davis@...> wrote:

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 23:36, wegandy@... said:

> I was otherwise occupied today and am too late to get in on this, but just let

me

> say that I have learned a BUNCH of stuff tonight while reading this thread.

This was indeed an excellent, well presented learning experience all the way

around! Alyssa summed it up well with her forest vs trees comment. One of the

hardest balances to strike in medicine is that of considering both the forest

and the trees, and not leaning too heavily on either. It is all too easy to get

caught up in the details of an intricate PMH and forget to consider that the

current crisis has nothing to do with it. Obviously, I showed that I am as

guilty as anyone of doing that.

I for one hope that we continue to " play these games " here!

Rob

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