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Its been years since I've seen him but I

> remember one of the last times I saw him I had told him that I had just been

diagnosed with AVN and I was drinking heavily, on vicodin, prozac.....I was a

mess

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AVN can also be caused by drinking, or sometimes there is no known causative

agent at all. So the burden of proof is likely on you to prove that it was the

cortizone and not the drinking that caused it. Chances are that you would spend

a whole lot of money and, well, will have spent a whole lot of money. Spend the

money on a new hip-much better odds of success and happiness in my opinion.

Cindy

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Jeff, no-one with legal experience could have explained it better than you

did.

First off, I know of an instance just last week where a healthy, gorgeous,

smart, energetic 18 year old woman with viral encephalitis died only three days

after diagnosis, so thank your lucky stars you're here.

Second, the facts in that e-mail are pregnant with all kinds of great legal

excuses that a defense attorney could have a field day with. The bottom line of

most claims is it comes down to credibility. If you're not squeaky clean, you

have a problem.

Third, I have a belief that the best a case ever gets is the day it walks in

your office. After that, it's downhill all the way. The way this one sounds

now, I would hate to see what else comes up the pike.

Fourth, I suspect there could be a statute of limitations problem.

I could go on but I need to bill some time. I certainly wouldn't take that

case, but maybe there are some lawyers out there who would.

Des Tuck, Esq.

In a message dated 4/16/2004 12:26:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jjg@... writes:

Good Luck, but don't count on much except a lot of expenses. Some years

back I got dreadfully sick and went to a doctor. For a few weeks he told me

it was the flu and to go home. That didn't do anything. Finally I got fed

up and went to another doctor, who gave me the proper diagnosis of viral

encephalitis (probably from a tick bite). Man, I didn't know you could be

that sick and live through it. I talked to my lawyer about suing the first

doctor and what he told me I'll pass on to you: The doctor will claim that

I did indeed have the condition he treated me for which masked the other

symptoms. The only way I could have shown that the first doctor was at

fault was to have had another diagnosis at the outset contradicting him.

In your case, drinking, vicodin and other factors could certainly

contribute to your AVN. You'd have to find some way of showing that there

no other factors and that the blame would fall squarely on this fellow.

Since it's been a while, that will be tough, since they can always ask you

to detail what you were doing and if you can't account for high-risk

factors (prove you weren't abusing steroids, for instance), it will be

hard, Compounding this is that the doctor will get legal help from his

insurance company, which keeps a bevy of attack lawyers on retainer. Not

good odds.

Still, feel free to pursue it, but don't be surprised if it falls flat. My

evil twin tells me that an out of court settlement after you file this

could certainly offset your resurfacing expenses. :o>

Of course, other folks on this list have more legal experience than I do,

so I'm sure they'll chime in, right folks?

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In a message dated 4/16/2004 1:40:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, jjg@...

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>Third, I have a belief that the best a case ever gets is the day it walks

in

>your office. After that, it's downhill all the way.

What a great piece of advice.. I think I'm gonna have to write that one

down.

Thanks Des!

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Des

In a message dated 4/16/2004 1:40:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, jjg@...

writes:

>Third, I have a belief that the best a case ever gets is the day it walks

in

>your office. After that, it's downhill all the way.

What a great piece of advice.. I think I'm gonna have to write that one

down.

Thanks Des!

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Good Luck, but don't count on much except a lot of expenses. Some years

back I got dreadfully sick and went to a doctor. For a few weeks he told me

it was the flu and to go home. That didn't do anything. Finally I got fed

up and went to another doctor, who gave me the proper diagnosis of viral

encephalitis (probably from a tick bite). Man, I didn't know you could be

that sick and live through it. I talked to my lawyer about suing the first

doctor and what he told me I'll pass on to you: The doctor will claim that

I did indeed have the condition he treated me for which masked the other

symptoms. The only way I could have shown that the first doctor was at

fault was to have had another diagnosis at the outset contradicting him.

In your case, drinking, vicodin and other factors could certainly

contribute to your AVN. You'd have to find some way of showing that there

no other factors and that the blame would fall squarely on this fellow.

Since it's been a while, that will be tough, since they can always ask you

to detail what you were doing and if you can't account for high-risk

factors (prove you weren't abusing steroids, for instance), it will be

hard, Compounding this is that the doctor will get legal help from his

insurance company, which keeps a bevy of attack lawyers on retainer. Not

good odds.

Still, feel free to pursue it, but don't be surprised if it falls flat. My

evil twin tells me that an out of court settlement after you file this

could certainly offset your resurfacing expenses. :o>

Of course, other folks on this list have more legal experience than I do,

so I'm sure they'll chime in, right folks?

Jeff

rBHR Aug. 1, 2001

Mr. McMinn

>I don't post here much but I do keep an eye on the board sometimes. I

>still have not made the plunge yet but was just trying to make

>appoinments at JRI today and was confronted with insurance questions

>and this got me thinking. If I have foot the bill for this, it could

>be quite the payment plan.

>I'm fairly postive and doctors I've talked to in the past have

>indicated to me that the whole reason I have pain and need to have my

>hip operated on now at 36 is because of a podiatrist in San Francisco

>I was seeing for a few years gave me too many cortizone injections in

>my left foot. I was wondering if I would have any legal grounds for a

>case against this doctor. Its been years since I've seen him but I

>remember one of the last times I saw him I had told him that I had

>just been diagnosed with AVN and I was drinking heavily, on vicodin,

>prozac.....I was a mess and he didn't say anything. I've still got

>that ailing foot as well as bad hip now too. Now that I am educated

>about the dangers of cortizone, I know that he knew what he had done

>that day and man does that bug me still.

>What do you guys think?

>

>

>Sacramento, CA

>

>

>

>

>

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Good Luck, but don't count on much except a lot of expenses. Some years

back I got dreadfully sick and went to a doctor. For a few weeks he told me

it was the flu and to go home. That didn't do anything. Finally I got fed

up and went to another doctor, who gave me the proper diagnosis of viral

encephalitis (probably from a tick bite). Man, I didn't know you could be

that sick and live through it. I talked to my lawyer about suing the first

doctor and what he told me I'll pass on to you: The doctor will claim that

I did indeed have the condition he treated me for which masked the other

symptoms. The only way I could have shown that the first doctor was at

fault was to have had another diagnosis at the outset contradicting him.

In your case, drinking, vicodin and other factors could certainly

contribute to your AVN. You'd have to find some way of showing that there

no other factors and that the blame would fall squarely on this fellow.

Since it's been a while, that will be tough, since they can always ask you

to detail what you were doing and if you can't account for high-risk

factors (prove you weren't abusing steroids, for instance), it will be

hard, Compounding this is that the doctor will get legal help from his

insurance company, which keeps a bevy of attack lawyers on retainer. Not

good odds.

Still, feel free to pursue it, but don't be surprised if it falls flat. My

evil twin tells me that an out of court settlement after you file this

could certainly offset your resurfacing expenses. :o>

Of course, other folks on this list have more legal experience than I do,

so I'm sure they'll chime in, right folks?

Jeff

rBHR Aug. 1, 2001

Mr. McMinn

>I don't post here much but I do keep an eye on the board sometimes. I

>still have not made the plunge yet but was just trying to make

>appoinments at JRI today and was confronted with insurance questions

>and this got me thinking. If I have foot the bill for this, it could

>be quite the payment plan.

>I'm fairly postive and doctors I've talked to in the past have

>indicated to me that the whole reason I have pain and need to have my

>hip operated on now at 36 is because of a podiatrist in San Francisco

>I was seeing for a few years gave me too many cortizone injections in

>my left foot. I was wondering if I would have any legal grounds for a

>case against this doctor. Its been years since I've seen him but I

>remember one of the last times I saw him I had told him that I had

>just been diagnosed with AVN and I was drinking heavily, on vicodin,

>prozac.....I was a mess and he didn't say anything. I've still got

>that ailing foot as well as bad hip now too. Now that I am educated

>about the dangers of cortizone, I know that he knew what he had done

>that day and man does that bug me still.

>What do you guys think?

>

>

>Sacramento, CA

>

>

>

>

>

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Good Luck, but don't count on much except a lot of expenses. Some years

back I got dreadfully sick and went to a doctor. For a few weeks he told me

it was the flu and to go home. That didn't do anything. Finally I got fed

up and went to another doctor, who gave me the proper diagnosis of viral

encephalitis (probably from a tick bite). Man, I didn't know you could be

that sick and live through it. I talked to my lawyer about suing the first

doctor and what he told me I'll pass on to you: The doctor will claim that

I did indeed have the condition he treated me for which masked the other

symptoms. The only way I could have shown that the first doctor was at

fault was to have had another diagnosis at the outset contradicting him.

In your case, drinking, vicodin and other factors could certainly

contribute to your AVN. You'd have to find some way of showing that there

no other factors and that the blame would fall squarely on this fellow.

Since it's been a while, that will be tough, since they can always ask you

to detail what you were doing and if you can't account for high-risk

factors (prove you weren't abusing steroids, for instance), it will be

hard, Compounding this is that the doctor will get legal help from his

insurance company, which keeps a bevy of attack lawyers on retainer. Not

good odds.

Still, feel free to pursue it, but don't be surprised if it falls flat. My

evil twin tells me that an out of court settlement after you file this

could certainly offset your resurfacing expenses. :o>

Of course, other folks on this list have more legal experience than I do,

so I'm sure they'll chime in, right folks?

Jeff

rBHR Aug. 1, 2001

Mr. McMinn

>I don't post here much but I do keep an eye on the board sometimes. I

>still have not made the plunge yet but was just trying to make

>appoinments at JRI today and was confronted with insurance questions

>and this got me thinking. If I have foot the bill for this, it could

>be quite the payment plan.

>I'm fairly postive and doctors I've talked to in the past have

>indicated to me that the whole reason I have pain and need to have my

>hip operated on now at 36 is because of a podiatrist in San Francisco

>I was seeing for a few years gave me too many cortizone injections in

>my left foot. I was wondering if I would have any legal grounds for a

>case against this doctor. Its been years since I've seen him but I

>remember one of the last times I saw him I had told him that I had

>just been diagnosed with AVN and I was drinking heavily, on vicodin,

>prozac.....I was a mess and he didn't say anything. I've still got

>that ailing foot as well as bad hip now too. Now that I am educated

>about the dangers of cortizone, I know that he knew what he had done

>that day and man does that bug me still.

>What do you guys think?

>

>

>Sacramento, CA

>

>

>

>

>

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>Jeff, no-one with legal experience could have explained it better than you

>did.

>

>First off, I know of an instance just last week where a healthy, gorgeous,

>smart, energetic 18 year old woman with viral encephalitis died only three

days

>after diagnosis, so thank your lucky stars you're here.

>

Yes I do -- I felt like Hell for a year afterwards. It was rough.

Lots of great stuff

>

>Third, I have a belief that the best a case ever gets is the day it walks

in

>your office. After that, it's downhill all the way.

What a great piece of advice.. I think I'm gonna have to write that one

down.

Thanks Des!

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>Jeff, no-one with legal experience could have explained it better than you

>did.

>

>First off, I know of an instance just last week where a healthy, gorgeous,

>smart, energetic 18 year old woman with viral encephalitis died only three

days

>after diagnosis, so thank your lucky stars you're here.

>

Yes I do -- I felt like Hell for a year afterwards. It was rough.

Lots of great stuff

>

>Third, I have a belief that the best a case ever gets is the day it walks

in

>your office. After that, it's downhill all the way.

What a great piece of advice.. I think I'm gonna have to write that one

down.

Thanks Des!

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Don't blow your chances by telling everyone about drinking heavily -

that's another well documented cause of AVN.

RC2K Dr. Gross 3/24/04

> I don't post here much but I do keep an eye on the board sometimes. I

> still have not made the plunge yet but was just trying to make

> appoinments at JRI today and was confronted with insurance questions

> and this got me thinking. If I have foot the bill for this, it could

> be quite the payment plan.

> I'm fairly postive and doctors I've talked to in the past have

> indicated to me that the whole reason I have pain and need to have my

> hip operated on now at 36 is because of a podiatrist in San Francisco

> I was seeing for a few years gave me too many cortizone injections in

> my left foot. I was wondering if I would have any legal grounds for a

> case against this doctor. Its been years since I've seen him but I

> remember one of the last times I saw him I had told him that I had

> just been diagnosed with AVN and I was drinking heavily, on vicodin,

> prozac.....I was a mess and he didn't say anything. I've still got

> that ailing foot as well as bad hip now too. Now that I am educated

> about the dangers of cortizone, I know that he knew what he had done

> that day and man does that bug me still.

> What do you guys think?

>

>

> Sacramento, CA

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Some trial lawyers might disagree, but self abuse with drugs like

alcohol places the responsibility for it's consequences, one of which

is AVN, mostly on you. A podiatrist treats foot and ankle problems,

not substance abuse. If you're now clean and sober, go get your hip

fixed. If you're not, do both and congratulate yourself for doing so!

> I don't post here much but I do keep an eye on the board sometimes. I

> still have not made the plunge yet but was just trying to make

> appoinments at JRI today and was confronted with insurance questions

> and this got me thinking. If I have foot the bill for this, it could

> be quite the payment plan.

> I'm fairly postive and doctors I've talked to in the past have

> indicated to me that the whole reason I have pain and need to have my

> hip operated on now at 36 is because of a podiatrist in San Francisco

> I was seeing for a few years gave me too many cortizone injections in

> my left foot. I was wondering if I would have any legal grounds for a

> case against this doctor. Its been years since I've seen him but I

> remember one of the last times I saw him I had told him that I had

> just been diagnosed with AVN and I was drinking heavily, on vicodin,

> prozac.....I was a mess and he didn't say anything. I've still got

> that ailing foot as well as bad hip now too. Now that I am educated

> about the dangers of cortizone, I know that he knew what he had done

> that day and man does that bug me still.

> What do you guys think?

>

>

> Sacramento, CA

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Some trial lawyers might disagree, but self abuse with drugs like

alcohol places the responsibility for it's consequences, one of which

is AVN, mostly on you. A podiatrist treats foot and ankle problems,

not substance abuse. If you're now clean and sober, go get your hip

fixed. If you're not, do both and congratulate yourself for doing so!

> I don't post here much but I do keep an eye on the board sometimes. I

> still have not made the plunge yet but was just trying to make

> appoinments at JRI today and was confronted with insurance questions

> and this got me thinking. If I have foot the bill for this, it could

> be quite the payment plan.

> I'm fairly postive and doctors I've talked to in the past have

> indicated to me that the whole reason I have pain and need to have my

> hip operated on now at 36 is because of a podiatrist in San Francisco

> I was seeing for a few years gave me too many cortizone injections in

> my left foot. I was wondering if I would have any legal grounds for a

> case against this doctor. Its been years since I've seen him but I

> remember one of the last times I saw him I had told him that I had

> just been diagnosed with AVN and I was drinking heavily, on vicodin,

> prozac.....I was a mess and he didn't say anything. I've still got

> that ailing foot as well as bad hip now too. Now that I am educated

> about the dangers of cortizone, I know that he knew what he had done

> that day and man does that bug me still.

> What do you guys think?

>

>

> Sacramento, CA

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Some trial lawyers might disagree, but self abuse with drugs like

alcohol places the responsibility for it's consequences, one of which

is AVN, mostly on you. A podiatrist treats foot and ankle problems,

not substance abuse. If you're now clean and sober, go get your hip

fixed. If you're not, do both and congratulate yourself for doing so!

> I don't post here much but I do keep an eye on the board sometimes. I

> still have not made the plunge yet but was just trying to make

> appoinments at JRI today and was confronted with insurance questions

> and this got me thinking. If I have foot the bill for this, it could

> be quite the payment plan.

> I'm fairly postive and doctors I've talked to in the past have

> indicated to me that the whole reason I have pain and need to have my

> hip operated on now at 36 is because of a podiatrist in San Francisco

> I was seeing for a few years gave me too many cortizone injections in

> my left foot. I was wondering if I would have any legal grounds for a

> case against this doctor. Its been years since I've seen him but I

> remember one of the last times I saw him I had told him that I had

> just been diagnosed with AVN and I was drinking heavily, on vicodin,

> prozac.....I was a mess and he didn't say anything. I've still got

> that ailing foot as well as bad hip now too. Now that I am educated

> about the dangers of cortizone, I know that he knew what he had done

> that day and man does that bug me still.

> What do you guys think?

>

>

> Sacramento, CA

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I think you guys are misunderstanding me when I said that I was

drinking heavily and using drugs. Prior to this doctors treatment I

was running on avg 5 - 10 miles a day and never touched any alcohol

other than the ocasional wine or beer with dinner. After his

treatments I had gained 15 - 20 pounds, I could no longer run anymore

because of my foot injury as well as the unsuccessful surgeries. Then

I was diagnosed by another doctor with this thing called AVN. He

suggested that I buy a cain to continue walking. I spiraled deep into

depression for a least 6 months. Thats when I started drinking and

vicodin and prozac. I would lay on the couch all day. That was the

time that I saw that podiatrist again. I rebounded later and got off

all that stuff, took up weight-lifting instead of running and got my

life in order but I still know that this podiatrist is at fault. I

hope that expains my earlier post better.

>

>

> Sacramento, CA

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Congratulations on being clean and sober. Now go get your hip fixed.

> I think you guys are misunderstanding me when I said that I was

> drinking heavily and using drugs. Prior to this doctors treatment I

> was running on avg 5 - 10 miles a day and never touched any alcohol

> other than the ocasional wine or beer with dinner. After his

> treatments I had gained 15 - 20 pounds, I could no longer run anymore

> because of my foot injury as well as the unsuccessful surgeries. Then

> I was diagnosed by another doctor with this thing called AVN. He

> suggested that I buy a cain to continue walking. I spiraled deep into

> depression for a least 6 months. Thats when I started drinking and

> vicodin and prozac. I would lay on the couch all day. That was the

> time that I saw that podiatrist again. I rebounded later and got off

> all that stuff, took up weight-lifting instead of running and got my

> life in order but I still know that this podiatrist is at fault. I

> hope that expains my earlier post better.

> >

> >

> > Sacramento, CA

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Congratulations on being clean and sober. Now go get your hip fixed.

> I think you guys are misunderstanding me when I said that I was

> drinking heavily and using drugs. Prior to this doctors treatment I

> was running on avg 5 - 10 miles a day and never touched any alcohol

> other than the ocasional wine or beer with dinner. After his

> treatments I had gained 15 - 20 pounds, I could no longer run anymore

> because of my foot injury as well as the unsuccessful surgeries. Then

> I was diagnosed by another doctor with this thing called AVN. He

> suggested that I buy a cain to continue walking. I spiraled deep into

> depression for a least 6 months. Thats when I started drinking and

> vicodin and prozac. I would lay on the couch all day. That was the

> time that I saw that podiatrist again. I rebounded later and got off

> all that stuff, took up weight-lifting instead of running and got my

> life in order but I still know that this podiatrist is at fault. I

> hope that expains my earlier post better.

> >

> >

> > Sacramento, CA

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Congratulations on being clean and sober. Now go get your hip fixed.

> I think you guys are misunderstanding me when I said that I was

> drinking heavily and using drugs. Prior to this doctors treatment I

> was running on avg 5 - 10 miles a day and never touched any alcohol

> other than the ocasional wine or beer with dinner. After his

> treatments I had gained 15 - 20 pounds, I could no longer run anymore

> because of my foot injury as well as the unsuccessful surgeries. Then

> I was diagnosed by another doctor with this thing called AVN. He

> suggested that I buy a cain to continue walking. I spiraled deep into

> depression for a least 6 months. Thats when I started drinking and

> vicodin and prozac. I would lay on the couch all day. That was the

> time that I saw that podiatrist again. I rebounded later and got off

> all that stuff, took up weight-lifting instead of running and got my

> life in order but I still know that this podiatrist is at fault. I

> hope that expains my earlier post better.

> >

> >

> > Sacramento, CA

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