Re: Help needed locating med studies

[Guest guest]

> I need some help locating studies discussing ligament damage

> resulting from a quick force on muscles -

I'll ask Mike when I speak to him next. He's at grandma's house, so I

should be able to track him down tomorrow. I would call today, but I am at

work and school until 9 pm, and grandma will be asleep by the time I get

home to look up her phone #.

-Barb

[Guest guest]

> I've also read somewhere that even passive stretching is bad since

it

> can overstretch the ligaments.

Hi ,

How awful for you! It sure makes me thankful I didn't go back to the

chiro after the 1st visit. I think I have something at home about

the passive stretching...as for the other, I'm not sure I have

anything regarding that. I will look this evening, unless you

receive a reply before then.

I hope you get to feeling better!!!

Love Lana

[Guest guest]

Thanks Barb, I appreciate it.

I've been searching the net, but in my foggy brain way today - I'm

not having much luck finding what I'm looking for.

MIchelle

> > I need some help locating studies discussing ligament damage

> > resulting from a quick force on muscles -

>

> I'll ask Mike when I speak to him next. He's at grandma's house,

so I

> should be able to track him down tomorrow. I would call today, but

I am at

> work and school until 9 pm, and grandma will be asleep by the time

I get

> home to look up her phone #.

>

> -Barb

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lana, I appreciate the support.

One of the more frustrating parts is that in the past this chiro has

been wonderful. I feel a bit betrayed. She has alway used non force

techniques like cranial sacral - acupressure, and a couple other

things that are non force. I've had wonderful results working with

her.

Recently she got into a new technique and is changing her practice to

revolve around it. Makes me think of the joke - a man with a hammer

thinks everything is a nail - I'm begining to think she's gotten a

new hammer and is now trying to make us all become nails. I thought

that she would continue to treat us like she always had - but it

appears that isn't the situation.

I will still stick up for chiros who use non force techniques - and

give them a lot of credit for my body holding together as well as it

has. I look at this experience as a reminder that I'm responsible

for my own body!

>

> > I've also read somewhere that even passive stretching is bad

since

> it

> > can overstretch the ligaments.

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> How awful for you! It sure makes me thankful I didn't go back to

the

> chiro after the 1st visit. I think I have something at home about

> the passive stretching...as for the other, I'm not sure I have

> anything regarding that. I will look this evening, unless you

> receive a reply before then.

>

> I hope you get to feeling better!!!

>

> Love Lana

[Guest guest]

,

I located this under the files section. The name of the article is

Hypermobility Syndrome. This is what I was looking for regarding the

stretching. Does this help??

" Exercise

Although exercise will not increase stiffness of the lax

ligaments seen in patients with HMS, strengthening and

proprioceptive exercises are recommended for muscula-ture

surrounding affected joints.2,3,9,35,80 –83 Individuals

with HMS and fibromyalgia who exercised reported

greater improvement in symptoms than did those who

did not exercise.68 Indiscriminant exercise, however,

could be harmful. For example, lightweight women

rowers who had excessive spinal mobility were more

likely to have back problems if they participated in a

stretching program for their backs.84 It appears reason-able,

therefore, to advise individuals with HMS to use

stretching exercises cautiously, distinguishing between

stretching muscles and stretching joints, as the former

may be beneficial but the latter may be harmful.

Although many authors recommend exercise for these

patients, few have any data on which to base that

recommendation. Moderate and low-impact strengthening

exercises, cardiovascular exercise for weight control,

and stretching of muscles rather than joints seem theoretically

sound recommendations, but the assumptions

on which these recommendations are based must be

tested. Given the predisposition of patients with HMS for

cumulative trauma injuries, studies are needed to determine

how much exercise is appropriate for these individuals.

The use of orthotic devices, braces, and taping

for patients with HMS also warrants further research. "

Love Lana

[Guest guest]

,

Here is another article, also regarding stretching, AND from a

chiropractic site:

http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/18/14/11.html

Hypermobility Syndrome

by Warren Hammer,MS,DC,DABCO

Have you ever had a patient complain of recurring pain in numerous

joints, or respraining of a particular (wrist) joint, who may or may

not express an inflammatory picture, and has been to many other

doctors without a definite diagnosis or helpful treatment? This

patient may be suffering with a hypermobility syndrome (HMS).

Because other conditions may express joint hypermobility, and can be

excluded by laboratory testing, HMS becomes a diagnosis of exclusion.

Two conditions that definitely have joint hypermobility and are

connective tissue disorders are Ehlers-Danlos and Marfan syndrome.

These two conditions exhibit hyperelastic skin, hernias, lenticular

abnormalities and abnormal body proportions. 1 Other conditions

exhibiting hypermobile joints are rheumatoid arthritis, osteogenesis

imperfecta, systemic lupus erythematosus, poliomyelitis, myotonia

congenita, and some neurological conditions.

HMS patients have a gender-influenced dominant trait with an

abnormality of type I collagen. The condition is more common in

females. Type I collagen is the most common collagen and is contained

in tendons, ligaments, joint capsules, skin, demineralized bone and

nerve receptors.1 Hypermobility of joints and spine is due to

abnormal laxity of ligaments, joint capsules and intervertebreal

discs. Back patients with symptoms who do not develop osteoarthrosis

or disc degeneration usually experience spontaneous improvement with

increasing age, thus losing their juvenile hyperlaxity. This usually

occurs between 30 and 40 years of age. In HMS patients, too much

activity causes pain.

Hypermobility per se is a state, not a disease, but it may lead to

generalized arthralgia or localized symptoms (frequent ankle sprains,

knee effusions, dislocations of the shoulders and recurrent episodes

of back pain). Pain can occur even after minor strains, especially in

young women.2 HMS patients, besides having hypermobile joints, have

decreased joint position sense, making them more vulnerable to minor

damage. Reduced sensory feedback may lead to biomechanically unsound

limb positions being adopted. This mechanism may allow acceleration

of degenerative joint conditions, and may account for the increased

prevalence of such conditions seen with HMS subjects.3

HMS patients have more osteoarthritis; increased nerve compression

disorders;4 chondromalacia patellae; excessive anterior mandibular

movement;5 mitral valve prolapse;6 uterine prolapse; and varicose

veins.2 Larsson7 et al., state that patients with HMS who have a

sedentary job have increased spinal pain.

Criteria for the diagnosis of HMS are:

1. passive thumb apposition to touch the forearm;

2. passive little finger hyperextension of more than 90 degrees;

3. elbow hyperextension of more than 10 degrees;

4. knee hyperextension of more than10 degrees;

5. forward flexion of the trunk with the knees straight and the

palms of the hands resting flat on the floor.

HMS is usually diagnosed in individuals who can perform three or more

of these tests.8 Some clinicians include excessive ankle dorsiflexion

and foot eversion in the criteria for HMS.

Patients with HMS may complain of symptoms from ages 3 to 70, which

usually affect multiple joints over the years. " They typically lack

the positive laboratory findings found in rheumatologic disorders

and, in the absence of acute trauma, lack the radiologic changes,

inflammation, swelling and decreased mobility typical of orthopedic

pathology. " 1 Unless they have specifically stressed a particular

joint and created an inflammation, HMS patients do not respond to

anti-inflammatory medication.

HMS patients must be educated about their body mechanics, posture and

activities. Activities may have to be modified. Even splints, braces

and taping may have to be used to protect vulnerable joints. 1

Movement of the joints in the end-ranges should be discouraged.

Stretching muscles rather than joints should be emphasized. Guided

progressive strengthening exercises and balance boards for

proprioceptive stimulation are recommended.

References:

1. Russek LN. Hypermobility syndrome. Phys Ther 79(6), 1999.

2. Nef W, Gerber NJ. Hypermobility syndrome. When too much

activity causes pain. Schweiz Med Wochenschr 128(8),1998:302-10.

3. Hall MG, Ferrell WR, Sturrock RD, hamblen DL, Baxendale RH.

The effect of the hypermobility syndrome on knee joint

proprioception. Br J Rheumatol 34(2), 1995:121-5.

4. El-Shahaly HJA, El-Sherif AK. Is the benign joint

hypermobility syndrome benign? Clin Rheumatol. 10(19), 91:302-307.

5. Buckigham RB, Braun T, Harinstein DA, et al.

Temporomandibular joint dysfunction syndrome: a close association

with systemic joint laxity (the hypermobile joint syndrome). Oral

Surg Oral Med Oral Pathol 72,1991:514-519.

6. Grahame R, JC, Pitcher D, et al. A clinical and

echocardiographic study of patients with the hypermobility syndrome.

Ann Rhem Dis 40,1981:5 41-546.

7. Larsson LG, Mudholkar GS, Baum J, Srivastava DK. Benefits and

liabilities of hypermobility in the back pain disorders of industrial

workers. J Intern Med. 238, 1995:461-67.

8. Beighton P, Solomon L, Soskoine CL. Articular mobility in an

African population. Ann Rheum Dis 32, 1973:413-418.

Warren Hammer,MS,DC,DABCO

Norwalk, Connecticut

[Guest guest]

Aopther article

http://www.chiro.org/cases/ABSTRACTS/Ehlers-Danlos.html

Chiropractic Management of Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome: A Report of Two

Cases

This section is maintained by M. Painter, D.C.

Send all comments or additions to: p@...

FROM: J Manip Physiol Ther 2003 (Sep); 26 (7): 448–459 ~ FULL

TEXT

AUTHORS:

1 J. Colloca, DC

2 Bradley S. Polkinghorn, DC

OBJECTIVE: To discuss 2 patients with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome

seeking chiropractic evaluation and management of their disabling

musculoskeletal pain and associated disorders.

CLINICAL FEATURES: Two disabled patients diagnosed with Ehlers-

Danlos syndrome had spinal pain, including neck and back pain,

headache, and extremity pain. Commonalities among these 2 cases

included abnormal spinal curvatures (kyphosis and scoliosis), joint

hypermobility, and tissue fragility. One patient had postsurgical

thoracolumbar spinal fusion (T11-sacrum) for scoliosis and

osteoporosis. The other patient had moderate anterior head

translation.

INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Both patients were treated with

mechanical force and manually assisted spinal adjustments delivered

to various spinal segments and extremities utilizing an Activator II

Adjusting Instrument and Activator Methods Chiropractic Technique.

Patients were also given postural advice, stabilization exercises,

and postural corrective exercises, as indicated in Chiropractic

BioPhysics Technique protocols. Both patients were able to reduce

pain and anti-inflammatory medication usage in association with

chiropractic care. Significant improvement in self-reported pain and

disability as measured by visual analog score, Oswestry Low-Back

Disability Index, and Neck Pain Disability Index were reported, and

objective improvements in physical examination and spinal alignment

were also observed following chiropractic care. Despite these

improvements, work disability status remained unchanged in both

patients.

CONCLUSION: Chiropractic care may be of benefit to some patients

with connective tissue disorders, including Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.

Low-force chiropractic adjusting techniques may be a preferred

technique of choice in patients with tissue fragility, offering

clinicians a viable alternative to traditional chiropractic care in

attempting to minimize risks and/or side effects associated with

spinal manipulation. Psychosocial issues, including patient desire to

return to work, were important factors in work disability status and

perceived outcome.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

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1 Clinic Director, State of the Art Chiropractic Center, PC,

Phoenix, Ariz, and Faculty, Postgraduate and Continuing Education

Department, New York Chiropractic College, Seneca Falls, NY, USA

2 Private practice of chiropractic, Santa , Calif, USA

This research was supported, in part, by Chiropractic Biophysics Non-

profit, Inc.

[Guest guest]

Aopther article

http://www.chiro.org/cases/ABSTRACTS/Ehlers-Danlos.html

Chiropractic Management of Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome: A Report of Two

Cases

This section is maintained by M. Painter, D.C.

Send all comments or additions to: p@...

FROM: J Manip Physiol Ther 2003 (Sep); 26 (7): 448–459 ~ FULL

TEXT

AUTHORS:

1 J. Colloca, DC

2 Bradley S. Polkinghorn, DC

OBJECTIVE: To discuss 2 patients with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome

seeking chiropractic evaluation and management of their disabling

musculoskeletal pain and associated disorders.

CLINICAL FEATURES: Two disabled patients diagnosed with Ehlers-

Danlos syndrome had spinal pain, including neck and back pain,

headache, and extremity pain. Commonalities among these 2 cases

included abnormal spinal curvatures (kyphosis and scoliosis), joint

hypermobility, and tissue fragility. One patient had postsurgical

thoracolumbar spinal fusion (T11-sacrum) for scoliosis and

osteoporosis. The other patient had moderate anterior head

translation.

INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Both patients were treated with

mechanical force and manually assisted spinal adjustments delivered

to various spinal segments and extremities utilizing an Activator II

Adjusting Instrument and Activator Methods Chiropractic Technique.

Patients were also given postural advice, stabilization exercises,

and postural corrective exercises, as indicated in Chiropractic

BioPhysics Technique protocols. Both patients were able to reduce

pain and anti-inflammatory medication usage in association with

chiropractic care. Significant improvement in self-reported pain and

disability as measured by visual analog score, Oswestry Low-Back

Disability Index, and Neck Pain Disability Index were reported, and

objective improvements in physical examination and spinal alignment

were also observed following chiropractic care. Despite these

improvements, work disability status remained unchanged in both

patients.

CONCLUSION: Chiropractic care may be of benefit to some patients

with connective tissue disorders, including Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.

Low-force chiropractic adjusting techniques may be a preferred

technique of choice in patients with tissue fragility, offering

clinicians a viable alternative to traditional chiropractic care in

attempting to minimize risks and/or side effects associated with

spinal manipulation. Psychosocial issues, including patient desire to

return to work, were important factors in work disability status and

perceived outcome.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

----------

1 Clinic Director, State of the Art Chiropractic Center, PC,

Phoenix, Ariz, and Faculty, Postgraduate and Continuing Education

Department, New York Chiropractic College, Seneca Falls, NY, USA

2 Private practice of chiropractic, Santa , Calif, USA

This research was supported, in part, by Chiropractic Biophysics Non-

profit, Inc.

[Guest guest]

Aopther article

http://www.chiro.org/cases/ABSTRACTS/Ehlers-Danlos.html

Chiropractic Management of Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome: A Report of Two

Cases

This section is maintained by M. Painter, D.C.

Send all comments or additions to: p@...

FROM: J Manip Physiol Ther 2003 (Sep); 26 (7): 448–459 ~ FULL

TEXT

AUTHORS:

1 J. Colloca, DC

2 Bradley S. Polkinghorn, DC

OBJECTIVE: To discuss 2 patients with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome

seeking chiropractic evaluation and management of their disabling

musculoskeletal pain and associated disorders.

CLINICAL FEATURES: Two disabled patients diagnosed with Ehlers-

Danlos syndrome had spinal pain, including neck and back pain,

headache, and extremity pain. Commonalities among these 2 cases

included abnormal spinal curvatures (kyphosis and scoliosis), joint

hypermobility, and tissue fragility. One patient had postsurgical

thoracolumbar spinal fusion (T11-sacrum) for scoliosis and

osteoporosis. The other patient had moderate anterior head

translation.

INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Both patients were treated with

mechanical force and manually assisted spinal adjustments delivered

to various spinal segments and extremities utilizing an Activator II

Adjusting Instrument and Activator Methods Chiropractic Technique.

Patients were also given postural advice, stabilization exercises,

and postural corrective exercises, as indicated in Chiropractic

BioPhysics Technique protocols. Both patients were able to reduce

pain and anti-inflammatory medication usage in association with

chiropractic care. Significant improvement in self-reported pain and

disability as measured by visual analog score, Oswestry Low-Back

Disability Index, and Neck Pain Disability Index were reported, and

objective improvements in physical examination and spinal alignment

were also observed following chiropractic care. Despite these

improvements, work disability status remained unchanged in both

patients.

CONCLUSION: Chiropractic care may be of benefit to some patients

with connective tissue disorders, including Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.

Low-force chiropractic adjusting techniques may be a preferred

technique of choice in patients with tissue fragility, offering

clinicians a viable alternative to traditional chiropractic care in

attempting to minimize risks and/or side effects associated with

spinal manipulation. Psychosocial issues, including patient desire to

return to work, were important factors in work disability status and

perceived outcome.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

----------

1 Clinic Director, State of the Art Chiropractic Center, PC,

Phoenix, Ariz, and Faculty, Postgraduate and Continuing Education

Department, New York Chiropractic College, Seneca Falls, NY, USA

2 Private practice of chiropractic, Santa , Calif, USA

This research was supported, in part, by Chiropractic Biophysics Non-

profit, Inc.

[Guest guest]

http://www.ednf.org/chronicpain.html

Chronic Pain is a Manifestation of the Ehlers–Danlos Syndrome

Anubha Sacheti, Judy Szemere, Bruce Bernstein, Triantafyllos Tafas,

Neil Schechter, Petros Tsipouras

Non–pharmacologic approaches, such as physical therapy and exercise

may be warranted but may also be quite traumatic and stressful for

this group of patients. Physical therapy taking place in water

(hydrotherapy), however, may be less damaging to joints and more

enjoyable. Behavioral and cognitive coping techniques may also be

extremely valuable.

...............also, read

http://doctormansour.com/Chiropractic%20Risks.pdf

What are the Risks of Chiropractic

Neck Adjustments?

[Guest guest]

http://www.ednf.org/chronicpain.html

Chronic Pain is a Manifestation of the Ehlers–Danlos Syndrome

Anubha Sacheti, Judy Szemere, Bruce Bernstein, Triantafyllos Tafas,

Neil Schechter, Petros Tsipouras

Non–pharmacologic approaches, such as physical therapy and exercise

may be warranted but may also be quite traumatic and stressful for

this group of patients. Physical therapy taking place in water

(hydrotherapy), however, may be less damaging to joints and more

enjoyable. Behavioral and cognitive coping techniques may also be

extremely valuable.

...............also, read

http://doctormansour.com/Chiropractic%20Risks.pdf

What are the Risks of Chiropractic

Neck Adjustments?

[Guest guest]

http://www.ednf.org/chronicpain.html

Chronic Pain is a Manifestation of the Ehlers–Danlos Syndrome

Anubha Sacheti, Judy Szemere, Bruce Bernstein, Triantafyllos Tafas,

Neil Schechter, Petros Tsipouras

Non–pharmacologic approaches, such as physical therapy and exercise

may be warranted but may also be quite traumatic and stressful for

this group of patients. Physical therapy taking place in water

(hydrotherapy), however, may be less damaging to joints and more

enjoyable. Behavioral and cognitive coping techniques may also be

extremely valuable.

...............also, read

http://doctormansour.com/Chiropractic%20Risks.pdf

What are the Risks of Chiropractic

Neck Adjustments?

[Guest guest]

> I need some help locating studies discussing ligament damage

> resulting from a quick force on muscles -

http://www.drblad.com/Can%20Chiropractic%20Help%20Me.htm

Contraindications to Chiropractic Care

Contraindications to chiropractic include fractures, bone tumors, bone and

joint infections, and acute cauda equina syndrome (Redwood 1996). Those with

acute myelopathy, advanced osteoporosis, cancer, congenital or acquired

deformities, undiagnosed or progressive neurological deficits, and

vertebral-basilar syndrome, should not receive chiropractic in the area of

the problem (Hansen and Triano 2000). Patients with a history of

hypertension and those receiving heparin therapy, should be monitored

closely while receiving chiropractic treatments (Plaugher and Bachman 1993).

Dislocations, acute rheumatoid arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, acute

juvenile avascular necrosis, and unstable osodontoideum are also

contraindications for chiropractic care (Redwood 1996).

http://www.holisticonline.com/chiropractic/chiro_safety.htm

Most of the concern around the safety of chiropractic treatment centers on

manipulation of the neck. About 110 cases of complications allegedly due to

chiropractic manipulation of the neck have been reported. Most of these were

strokes. The connection has never been proven. In one large study involving

150,000 manipulations performed by 460 physicians showed no serious

complications at all. According to the RAND Corporation, the overall rate of

complications of chiropractic manipulation to the neck is approximately one

in one million attesting to the safety of chiropractic treatment.

The most common complication of chiropractic treatment is a temporary

worsening of discomfort.

PrecautionsManipulation of the spine, and especially of the cervical area,

can be dangerous. If the neck is twisted too far, it is possible to tear the

walls of the vulnerable vertebral arteries where they pass up to the neck.

The result can be an aneurysm or blood clots, which, in turn, can cause a

stroke or other neurological symptoms, such as vertigo and slurring, or even

be fatal.

There have been cases of neurological damage following chiropractic

manipulations of the neck. In 1992, researchers at Stanford Stroke Center

found that 55 people had been referred to neurologists in California

following manipulation. They were suffering from permanent nerve damage, and

one died. The vast majority of chiropractic manipulations are safe, but any

manipulation carries a risk, so it is important that it is not undertaken

lightly or unnecessarily.

The spine should never be manipulated if there are any signs of a

neurological involvement, such as a loss of sensation in the legs or

impaired bladder control. Bone diseases, such as osteoporosis or cancer, a

recent fracture, or serious circulatory problems, such as aneurysms or a

history of thrombosis, are also contraindications for the use of spinal

manipulations. If in doubt, consult your doctor.

Chiropractic is not recommended for disorders of other than musculoskeletal

origin, and should be avoided for certain musculoskeletal problems as well.

For in- stance, it is not recommended for osteoporosis, bone or joint

infections, bone cancer, acute rheumatoid arthritis, and diseases of the

spinal chord or bone marrow. It should also be avoided in an area that has

been operated on, such as a spinal fusion, and near acute fractures and

dislocations or healed fractures and dislocations with signs of ligament

damage. Chiropractors do not treat fractures.

Scoliosis, a condition in which the spine curves to the side, is generally

considered a target for chiropractic therapy. However, idiopathic scoliosis,

which develops over time instead of being present at birth (congenital

scoliosis), is not appropriate for treatment by a chiropractor.

[Guest guest]

> I need some help locating studies discussing ligament damage

> resulting from a quick force on muscles -

http://www.drblad.com/Can%20Chiropractic%20Help%20Me.htm

Contraindications to Chiropractic Care

Contraindications to chiropractic include fractures, bone tumors, bone and

joint infections, and acute cauda equina syndrome (Redwood 1996). Those with

acute myelopathy, advanced osteoporosis, cancer, congenital or acquired

deformities, undiagnosed or progressive neurological deficits, and

vertebral-basilar syndrome, should not receive chiropractic in the area of

the problem (Hansen and Triano 2000). Patients with a history of

hypertension and those receiving heparin therapy, should be monitored

closely while receiving chiropractic treatments (Plaugher and Bachman 1993).

Dislocations, acute rheumatoid arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, acute

juvenile avascular necrosis, and unstable osodontoideum are also

contraindications for chiropractic care (Redwood 1996).

http://www.holisticonline.com/chiropractic/chiro_safety.htm

Most of the concern around the safety of chiropractic treatment centers on

manipulation of the neck. About 110 cases of complications allegedly due to

chiropractic manipulation of the neck have been reported. Most of these were

strokes. The connection has never been proven. In one large study involving

150,000 manipulations performed by 460 physicians showed no serious

complications at all. According to the RAND Corporation, the overall rate of

complications of chiropractic manipulation to the neck is approximately one

in one million attesting to the safety of chiropractic treatment.

The most common complication of chiropractic treatment is a temporary

worsening of discomfort.

PrecautionsManipulation of the spine, and especially of the cervical area,

can be dangerous. If the neck is twisted too far, it is possible to tear the

walls of the vulnerable vertebral arteries where they pass up to the neck.

The result can be an aneurysm or blood clots, which, in turn, can cause a

stroke or other neurological symptoms, such as vertigo and slurring, or even

be fatal.

There have been cases of neurological damage following chiropractic

manipulations of the neck. In 1992, researchers at Stanford Stroke Center

found that 55 people had been referred to neurologists in California

following manipulation. They were suffering from permanent nerve damage, and

one died. The vast majority of chiropractic manipulations are safe, but any

manipulation carries a risk, so it is important that it is not undertaken

lightly or unnecessarily.

The spine should never be manipulated if there are any signs of a

neurological involvement, such as a loss of sensation in the legs or

impaired bladder control. Bone diseases, such as osteoporosis or cancer, a

recent fracture, or serious circulatory problems, such as aneurysms or a

history of thrombosis, are also contraindications for the use of spinal

manipulations. If in doubt, consult your doctor.

Chiropractic is not recommended for disorders of other than musculoskeletal

origin, and should be avoided for certain musculoskeletal problems as well.

For in- stance, it is not recommended for osteoporosis, bone or joint

infections, bone cancer, acute rheumatoid arthritis, and diseases of the

spinal chord or bone marrow. It should also be avoided in an area that has

been operated on, such as a spinal fusion, and near acute fractures and

dislocations or healed fractures and dislocations with signs of ligament

damage. Chiropractors do not treat fractures.

Scoliosis, a condition in which the spine curves to the side, is generally

considered a target for chiropractic therapy. However, idiopathic scoliosis,

which develops over time instead of being present at birth (congenital

scoliosis), is not appropriate for treatment by a chiropractor.

[Guest guest]

Did you contact your chiro and tell her what has happened and what

you are now suffering with due to her using a technique she should no

better about using??? YOU REALLY NEED TO RING AND TELL HER IN PERSON

as this is simply NOT ON.

Sharon

> >

> > > I've also read somewhere that even passive stretching is bad

> since

> > it

> > > can overstretch the ligaments.

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > How awful for you! It sure makes me thankful I didn't go back to

> the

> > chiro after the 1st visit. I think I have something at home

about

> > the passive stretching...as for the other, I'm not sure I have

> > anything regarding that. I will look this evening, unless you

> > receive a reply before then.

> >

> > I hope you get to feeling better!!!

> >

> > Love Lana

[Guest guest]

> Did you contact your chiro and tell her what has happened and what

> you are now suffering with due to her using a technique she should

no

> better about using??? YOU REALLY NEED TO RING AND TELL HER IN

PERSON

> as this is simply NOT ON.

> Sharon

>

>

Well, on Monday when it happened I told her I wasn't pleased -

described how awful I felt immediately and how it hurt when she did

it. She just said that the adjustment needed to be done and the rest

was because I wasn't responding to it well -duh! Told me just to go

home and ice it because it had become swollen.

Right now she is out of town - but you can be sure next time I see

her I will give her all the details. I'm also assembling information

to share with her - and will remind her of information from her class

notes that she has let me read. Above all I will let her know that

she is absolutely not to use any forceful techniques on either the

girls or me again. Period! She really has been a good doctor,

taught us a lot and provided a lot of relief and I hate to give that

up - she gets one more chance.

As for me -I'm feeling a lot better tonight. After chasing the pain

around for a couple days today I stumbled on a spot in my mid back

(lower part of Rhomboids) that responded to ice.

The good part was I got plenty of practice with the polarity stuff.

It was pretty amazing to feel the muscles relax and the pain move.

[Guest guest]

> Did you contact your chiro and tell her what has happened and what

> you are now suffering with due to her using a technique she should

no

> better about using??? YOU REALLY NEED TO RING AND TELL HER IN

PERSON

> as this is simply NOT ON.

> Sharon

>

>

Well, on Monday when it happened I told her I wasn't pleased -

described how awful I felt immediately and how it hurt when she did

it. She just said that the adjustment needed to be done and the rest

was because I wasn't responding to it well -duh! Told me just to go

home and ice it because it had become swollen.

Right now she is out of town - but you can be sure next time I see

her I will give her all the details. I'm also assembling information

to share with her - and will remind her of information from her class

notes that she has let me read. Above all I will let her know that

she is absolutely not to use any forceful techniques on either the

girls or me again. Period! She really has been a good doctor,

taught us a lot and provided a lot of relief and I hate to give that

up - she gets one more chance.

As for me -I'm feeling a lot better tonight. After chasing the pain

around for a couple days today I stumbled on a spot in my mid back

(lower part of Rhomboids) that responded to ice.

The good part was I got plenty of practice with the polarity stuff.

It was pretty amazing to feel the muscles relax and the pain move.