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So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we should

paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be or

with the same brush?

Rick

Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding them dry >

Corpus Christi Caller-Times

These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of Texas'

weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in their

favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same brush,

as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services are

squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

ambulance operators.

The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering DSHS

to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's license.

At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

Bob

>

>

> WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there that

> care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their employees

> and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively agree

> on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have moved

> on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great list,

> never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

> McGee, EMT-P

>

>

> On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " haussecker87@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Ron

> >

> >

>

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> >

> >

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Your PC is showing. I suggested subjecting all applicants to stringent

licensing scrutiny - wherever they may come from.

>

>

> So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

> should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

> or with the same brush?

> Rick

>

> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding them

> dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

>

> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of Texas'

> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> their

> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

>

> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> brush,

> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services are

> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> ambulance operators.

>

> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering DSHS

> to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's license.

> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

>

> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

>

> Bob

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there that

> > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> employees

> > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> agree

> > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> moved

> > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> list,

> > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> > McGee, EMT-P

> >

> >

> > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " haussecker87@...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Ron

> > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > >

> > >

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And just what were GoldStar's owners tried and convicted of?

>

>

> Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh, wait

> a minute.

>

> Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

>

> Wes Ogilvie

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

>

>

> > So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

> should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

> or with the same brush?

> > Rick

> >

> > Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> >

> > These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> > being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> > either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> Texas'

> > weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> their

> > favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> >

> > It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> brush,

> > as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> are

> > squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

> > distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> > ambulance operators.

> >

> > The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> > operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> > decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> > opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> DSHS

> > to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> > criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

> > the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> license.

> > At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> >

> > We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> > spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> >

> > Bob

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> that

> > > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> employees

> > > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> agree

> > > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> moved

> > > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> list,

> > > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > McGee, EMT-P

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

> haussecker87@...>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Ron

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > > >

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You also suggested that we should distinguish between " indigenous ambulance

operators and foreign owned ambulance operators " which indicates there should be

different standards between the two.

Rick

Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding them

> dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

>

> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of Texas'

> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> their

> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

>

> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> brush,

> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services are

> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> ambulance operators.

>

> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering DSHS

> to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's license.

> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

>

> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

>

> Bob

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there that

> > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> employees

> > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> agree

> > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> moved

> > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> list,

> > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> > McGee, EMT-P

> >

> >

> > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " haussecker87@...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Ron

> > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > >

> > >

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" Distinguish " = " ...different standards? "

>

>

> You also suggested that we should distinguish between " indigenous ambulance

> operators and foreign owned ambulance operators " which indicates there

> should be different standards between the two.

>

> Rick

>

> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> them

> > dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> >

> > These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> > being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> > either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> Texas'

> > weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> > their

> > favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> >

> > It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> > brush,

> > as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> are

> > squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

> > distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> > ambulance operators.

> >

> > The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> > operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> > decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> > opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> DSHS

> > to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> > criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

> > the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> license.

> > At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> >

> > We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> > spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> >

> > Bob

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> that

> > > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> > employees

> > > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> > agree

> > > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> > moved

> > > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> > list,

> > > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > McGee, EMT-P

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

> haussecker87@...>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Ron

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > > >

> > > >

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Bob I don't think any were convicted of anything, much less were they foreign. I

hate when people don't have a clue. Now P1 in Jasper was a different story.

Sent from my iPhone

> And just what were GoldStar's owners tried and convicted of?

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh, wait

>> a minute.

>>

>> Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

>>

>> Wes Ogilvie

>>

>> Sent from my iPad

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

>> should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

>> or with the same brush?

>>> Rick

>>>

>>> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

>> them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

>>>

>>> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

>>> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

>>> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

>> Texas'

>>> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

>> their

>>> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

>>>

>>> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

>> brush,

>>> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

>> are

>>> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

>>> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

>>> ambulance operators.

>>>

>>> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

>>> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

>>> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

>>> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

>> DSHS

>>> to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

>>> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

>>> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

>> license.

>>> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

>>>

>>> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

>>> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

>>>

>>> Bob

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

>>>> coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

>> that

>>>> care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

>> employees

>>>> and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

>>>> vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

>>>> something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

>> agree

>>>> on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

>> moved

>>>> on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

>> list,

>>>> never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

>>>>

>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> McGee, EMT-P

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

>> haussecker87@...>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Ron

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

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>>>>>

>>>>>

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Bob I don't think any were convicted of anything, much less were they foreign. I

hate when people don't have a clue. Now P1 in Jasper was a different story.

Sent from my iPhone

> And just what were GoldStar's owners tried and convicted of?

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh, wait

>> a minute.

>>

>> Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

>>

>> Wes Ogilvie

>>

>> Sent from my iPad

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

>> should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

>> or with the same brush?

>>> Rick

>>>

>>> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

>> them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

>>>

>>> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

>>> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

>>> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

>> Texas'

>>> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

>> their

>>> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

>>>

>>> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

>> brush,

>>> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

>> are

>>> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

>>> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

>>> ambulance operators.

>>>

>>> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

>>> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

>>> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

>>> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

>> DSHS

>>> to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

>>> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

>>> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

>> license.

>>> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

>>>

>>> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

>>> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

>>>

>>> Bob

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

>>>> coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

>> that

>>>> care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

>> employees

>>>> and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

>>>> vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

>>>> something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

>> agree

>>>> on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

>> moved

>>>> on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

>> list,

>>>> never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

>>>>

>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> McGee, EMT-P

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

>> haussecker87@...>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Ron

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

>>>>>

>>>>>

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You bet! If you are going to hold all applicants to the same standards why would

you need to distinguish between indigenous and foreign?

Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> them

> > dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> >

> > These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> > being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> > either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> Texas'

> > weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> > their

> > favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> >

> > It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> > brush,

> > as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> are

> > squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

> > distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> > ambulance operators.

> >

> > The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> > operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> > decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> > opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> DSHS

> > to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> > criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

> > the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> license.

> > At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> >

> > We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> > spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> >

> > Bob

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> that

> > > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> > employees

> > > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> > agree

> > > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> > moved

> > > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> > list,

> > > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > McGee, EMT-P

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

> haussecker87@...>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Ron

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

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> > > >

> > > >

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You bet! If you are going to hold all applicants to the same standards why would

you need to distinguish between indigenous and foreign?

Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> them

> > dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> >

> > These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas is

> > being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> > either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> Texas'

> > weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> > their

> > favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> >

> > It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> > brush,

> > as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> are

> > squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important to

> > distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> > ambulance operators.

> >

> > The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> > operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a whole

> > decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> > opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> DSHS

> > to deny provider license applications based on very strict investigative

> > criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known as

> > the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> license.

> > At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> >

> > We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off the

> > spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> >

> > Bob

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> that

> > > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> > employees

> > > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that is

> > > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> > agree

> > > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> > moved

> > > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> > list,

> > > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> > >

> > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > McGee, EMT-P

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

> haussecker87@...>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Ron

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

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> > > >

> > > >

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You're right, PJ. There was never a civil or criminal action brought against

GoldStar's owners. In fact, all charges were dropped by the governemnt.

>

>

> Bob I don't think any were convicted of anything, much less were they

> foreign. I hate when people don't have a clue. Now P1 in Jasper was a

> different story.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

>

> > And just what were GoldStar's owners tried and convicted of?

> >

> >

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh,

> wait

> >> a minute.

> >>

> >> Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

> >>

> >> Wes Ogilvie

> >>

> >> Sent from my iPad

>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>> So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

> >> should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

> >> or with the same brush?

> >>> Rick

> >>>

> >>> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> >> them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> >>>

> >>> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas

> is

> >>> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> >>> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> >> Texas'

> >>> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> >> their

> >>> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> >>>

> >>> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> >> brush,

> >>> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> >> are

> >>> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

> to

> >>> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> >>> ambulance operators.

> >>>

> >>> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> >>> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a

> whole

> >>> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> >>> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> >> DSHS

> >>> to deny provider license applications based on very strict

> investigative

> >>> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

> as

> >>> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> >> license.

> >>> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> >>>

> >>> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off

> the

> >>> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> >>>

> >>> Bob

> >>>

> >>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:30 AM, McGee summedic@...>

> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> >>>> coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> >> that

> >>>> care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> >> employees

> >>>> and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> >>>> vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that

> is

> >>>> something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> >> agree

> >>>> on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> >> moved

> >>>> on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> >> list,

> >>>> never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> >>>>

> >>>> Sent from my iPhone

> >>>> McGee, EMT-P

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

> >> haussecker87@...>

> >>>> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> Ron

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

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You're right, PJ. There was never a civil or criminal action brought against

GoldStar's owners. In fact, all charges were dropped by the governemnt.

>

>

> Bob I don't think any were convicted of anything, much less were they

> foreign. I hate when people don't have a clue. Now P1 in Jasper was a

> different story.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

>

> > And just what were GoldStar's owners tried and convicted of?

> >

> >

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Indeed. After all, we know that GoldStar was owned by foreigners. Oh,

> wait

> >> a minute.

> >>

> >> Never mind, this email is now inoperative.

> >>

> >> Wes Ogilvie

> >>

> >> Sent from my iPad

>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>> So we shouldn't paint all private companies with the same brush but we

> >> should paint all the company owners whose last name doesn't happen to be

> >> or with the same brush?

> >>> Rick

> >>>

> >>> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> >> them dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> >>>

> >>> These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas

> is

> >>> being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> >>> either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> >> Texas'

> >>> weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> >> their

> >>> favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> >>>

> >>> It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> >> brush,

> >>> as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> >> are

> >>> squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

> to

> >>> distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> >>> ambulance operators.

> >>>

> >>> The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> >>> operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a

> whole

> >>> decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> >>> opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> >> DSHS

> >>> to deny provider license applications based on very strict

> investigative

> >>> criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

> as

> >>> the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> >> license.

> >>> At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> >>>

> >>> We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off

> the

> >>> spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> >>>

> >>> Bob

> >>>

> >>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:30 AM, McGee summedic@...>

> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> >>>> coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> >> that

> >>>> care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> >> employees

> >>>> and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> >>>> vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that

> is

> >>>> something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> >> agree

> >>>> on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> >> moved

> >>>> on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this great

> >> list,

> >>>> never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> >>>>

> >>>> Sent from my iPhone

> >>>> McGee, EMT-P

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

> >> haussecker87@...>

> >>>> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> Ron

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

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Because foreign owners could have international criminal and

financial connections, and business practices that are not governed or

enforcable by U.S. laws, international treaties or extradition agreements.

>

>

> You bet! If you are going to hold all applicants to the same standards why

> would you need to distinguish between indigenous and foreign?

>

> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> > them

> > > dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> > >

> > > These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas

> is

> > > being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> > > either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> > Texas'

> > > weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> > > their

> > > favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> > >

> > > It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> > > brush,

> > > as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> > are

> > > squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

> to

> > > distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> > > ambulance operators.

> > >

> > > The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> > > operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a

> whole

> > > decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> > > opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> > DSHS

> > > to deny provider license applications based on very strict

> investigative

> > > criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

> as

> > > the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> > license.

> > > At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> > >

> > > We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off

> the

> > > spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> > >

> > > Bob

> > >

> > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:30 AM, McGee summedic@...>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > > > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> > that

> > > > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> > > employees

> > > > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > > > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that

> is

> > > > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> > > agree

> > > > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> > > moved

> > > > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this

> great

> > > list,

> > > > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> > > >

> > > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > > McGee, EMT-P

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

> > haussecker87@...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Ron

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Because foreign owners could have international criminal and

financial connections, and business practices that are not governed or

enforcable by U.S. laws, international treaties or extradition agreements.

>

>

> You bet! If you are going to hold all applicants to the same standards why

> would you need to distinguish between indigenous and foreign?

>

> Re: : Ambulance companies say Medicare bleeding

> > them

> > > dry > Corpus Christi Caller-Times

> > >

> > > These aren't " greedy companies " , but rather greedy individuals. Texas

> is

> > > being flooded with unscrupulous, foreign-owned ambulance operators are

> > > either money laundering operations or are here to take advantage of

> > Texas'

> > > weak application and enforcement rules. They know that the odds are in

> > > their

> > > favor to " get in and get out " before being caught.

> > >

> > > It's ridiculous to paint all private ambulance services with the same

> > > brush,

> > > as it is equally wrong to assume that governmentally operated services

> > are

> > > squeaky clean. They both have their culprits. I believe it's important

> to

> > > distinguish between indigenous ambulance operators and foreign-owned

> > > ambulance operators.

> > >

> > > The ZPIC's and RAC's will continue to hammer all of Texas' ambulance

> > > operators for the transgressions of the few until the industry as a

> whole

> > > decides to stop eye-poking each other and do something about it. In my

> > > opinion, the very first step is to close the floodgates by empowering

> > DSHS

> > > to deny provider license applications based on very strict

> investigative

> > > criteria that goes far beyond what exists today. Texas should be known

> as

> > > the most difficult place on the planet to obtain an EMS provider's

> > license.

> > > At least then, this trash will end up on some other state's lawn.

> > >

> > > We can all argue about subsequent steps, but the first is turning off

> the

> > > spigot. Only then can the " mop up " begin.

> > >

> > > Bob

> > >

> > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:30 AM, McGee summedic@...>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > WOW, thanks Ron for posting that. I can't say that I didn't see this

> > > > coming, because I did. There are too many greedy companies out there

> > that

> > > > care more about their bottom line then about taking care of their

> > > employees

> > > > and equipment, much less honest patient care. Our industry has bred

> > > > vultures, hungry for a quick buck, but at what expense? I guess that

> is

> > > > something for others to decide, since we ourselves can't collectively

> > > agree

> > > > on much, much less regulate ourselves. What a shame. I, for one, have

> > > moved

> > > > on. Good luck, and God bless you all. I'll continue to lurk this

> great

> > > list,

> > > > never giving up hope that someday we can fix what needs to be fixed.

> > > >

> > > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > > McGee, EMT-P

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 8:17 PM, " Ron Haussecker " <

> > haussecker87@...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Ron

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.caller.com/news/2011/mar/01/ambulance-companies-say-medicare-bleeding\

-them/

> > > > >

> > > > >

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