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Hi Kate,……yeah most of my friends have stopped in their 50’s too. I asked my Dr. last time I saw her in June if she would order a hormone check, and she didn’t seem to think it was necessary. I guess those tests aren’t all that reliable as the hormones can change from day to day. I think I am going to see a Gynecologist though because I don’t think this is normal. Even though my Dr. said she had a woman in her 70’s that hadn’t gone thru menopause yet. YIKES! Maybe she jinxed me? I’ve read too that it could be something more serious like cervical cancer or endometriosis cancer. I do have endometriosis, and fibroids so maybe something’s going on there? So how are you fairing? Did you get your basement dried out? Hopefully it won’t end up with too much damage and mold. Mold is a big allergen for me. We had our furnace with mold spores and the guy cleaned it out. Now the duct guys are coming out next week to clean those out. It will be interesting to see if my sinus stuff clears up. Hugs Jackie From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of Kate RothschildSent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:30 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem Wow, Jackie. That's surprising. I am 52, and stopped cycles almost 3 years ago.I hope this resolves soon for you.Have you had your hormones checked?Take care of yourself.love you,Kate To: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:52 PMSubject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem STILL NOT???? OMG woman!!!! I was over and done with before 50, unless of course you count the year-and-1/2 long period (double meaning on the word " period " ) I had while Rob had Robbin...which has Not returned, BTW... WHEW! I’m so glad you corrected this as I just can’t imagine having these symptoms longer than necessary! At least I have some hope that one of the things I battle will end soon. I hope sooner than soon, for gosh sakes I’m 61, and still not in menopause!! What the heck is going on here? Guess it’s good for my bones, but enough is enough ya know. Lol….Hugs Jackie J From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of AkibaSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:59 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem No no no...I said we will NOT have to deal with them forever. Nawwwww, I just think we are passionate about life, and we tend to take things deeper maybe than other people. Steve is always telling me to not care so much about other people, but I just can’t help it. AND……….Yes menopause just adds another layer of hormonal angst to the mix. I think that has been my worse symptom, and Akiba shame on you for saying we will have to deal with this the REST of our lives!!! I think NOT! LOL….. God help me/us. My husband has lost almost 60 lbs, and is looking really good. He is aging very nicely, and I have been feeling so old and frumpy, for the first time in our marriage I feel scared he might leave me for someone that gives him more attention in ways I can’t anymore. I’ve brought it up before he even lost the weight how it didn’t seem fair that he was “saddled†with a disabled wife, and he could be out doing things and living a more satisfying life without me. He always said no he didn’t want that, but that was before he lost the weight, and felt like no one would want him anyhow. Now with the non-anniversary thing, it has got me worried that he might find someone even accidently. He’s had women come on to him before, so my concerns aren’t without some merit. But then again maybe it’s just my emotions out of whack and I’m just being paranoid? It might help if I could bathe, and have my hair fixed and put some makeup on once in a while. Get out of these sweats, and not be in so much pain. Sighs from Jackie L From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of Catharine HunterSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:10 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem I remember how hurt you were on your anniversary Jackie. I would be too but then I'm also a Leo. I don't know why I'm feeling this way. Afterall we've been together for 8 yrs albeit each keeping our own homes. But I know the part of me that's a little frightened is insecurity and fear that I'll get hurt. You know the 'should I leave him before he leaves me' bit? Or maybe stupid hormones since Akiba says we're going to have to deal with meno symptoms for the rest of our lives. I know I need 's help for some things I just can't physically do but knowing that he needs me, in an emotional way, feels kind of good. Geesh, sounds like I'm a 13 ;) .. hugs, Cait To: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:22 PMSubject: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem Never too old for romance! Not laughing either. Steve couldn’t think of one thing romantic to get me for our 40th anniversary, even though we DO have a song. I said couldn’t you have thought of maybe a music box [which I collect], or a CD of romantic songs? Or even set the table with candle light, and a red rose? I think he just thinks of our relationship as him being my caretaker, and companion, but not intimate. Seems like when the sex stopped the romance died. I’m a very romantic person, [Leo], and it really hurt me to think he didn’t care enough to try and make that big of an anniversary special. L I feel myself pulling away so my expectations won’t be anything more from now on. Hugs, Jackie From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of xstitcherSent: Monday, August 29, 2011 8:57 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: My Update & a problem .I went over to 's to babysit Bert aka Cruiser, Jr's cocker spaniel so could go golfing in a local tournament. That meant nobody went to court for Jr and he didn't get out :))). Most likely he'll get out on bail tomorrow unfortunately. I can't remember when I came home but it was with a kidney infection. So I've been basically drowsing, reading and drinking water water water. It's definitely not cystits but more like pylitis (sp). Anyway that's not my problem. Lately I've done a bit of introspection (me too Jackie) and I realize I'm trying to push away. At the same time, I worry about the future and being alone. I also realize that in some ways I need him and he needs me. And that scares the wits out of me. The feeling needed part I mean which was sadly lacking in my marriage. And unconsciously I have an 'our song' like a goofy teenager. Don't laugh but it's Trisha Yearwood's 'How do I live " . Geesh aren't I too old for these kind of feelings?????

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Hi Jackie! I hadn't known that the hormones can change from day to day. That's curious...Don't get yourself all worked up now about CA. One step at a time. Get yourself in as you said, and take it from there. I'm sure everything will check out fine.Our basement is ok, and we run a dehumidifier 24/7 down there and there is no odor, so no apparent mold. Thank goodness!Our yard, however, looks like who did it and ran. My husband has a HUGE ditch dug under where our back deck used to be. He went to paint the fencing, balistrades I think they're called, and he took them off to paint them and discovered the entire deck was rotted. SO, he took the whole thing down! There's no way to get in, except our front door. We always went in through the

sliding door off the back deck into the kitchen. Very convenient for bringing in the groceries. So, THAT looks awful. Add to that that we took the fence down, as that was rotted as well. Not sure what the neighbor thinks. She's probably pissed. It's a sight for sore eyes. I'm trying to get in touch with the fencing people, but they seem to keep blowing me off for some reason. Either they're too busy or don't want to deal with us...not sure. Can't seem to find another fencing person.Well, this is much more than you wanted to hear/read, my friend, so I'll sign off for now.love, KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 10:06 AMSubject: Women talk Kate.

Hi Kate,……yeah most of my friends have stopped in their 50’s too. I asked my Dr. last time I saw her in June if she would order a hormone check, and she didn’t seem to think it was necessary. I guess those tests aren’t all that reliable as the hormones can change from day to day. I think I am going to see a Gynecologist though because I don’t think this is normal. Even though my Dr. said she had a woman in her 70’s that hadn’t gone thru menopause yet. YIKES! Maybe she jinxed me? I’ve read too that it could be something more serious like cervical cancer or endometriosis cancer. I do have endometriosis, and fibroids so maybe something’s going on there? So how

are you fairing? Did you get your basement dried out? Hopefully it won’t end up with too much damage and mold. Mold is a big allergen for me. We had our furnace with mold spores and the guy cleaned it out. Now the duct guys are coming out next week to clean those out. It will be interesting to see if my sinus stuff clears up. Hugs Jackie From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of Kate RothschildSent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:30 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a

problem Wow, Jackie. That's surprising. I am 52, and stopped cycles almost 3 years ago.I hope this resolves soon for you.Have you had your hormones checked?Take care of yourself.love

you,Kate To: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:52 PMSubject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem STILL NOT???? OMG woman!!!! I was over and done with before 50, unless of course you count the year-and-1/2 long period (double meaning on the word "period") I had while Rob had Robbin...which has Not returned, BTW... WHEW! I’m so glad you corrected this as I just can’t imagine having these symptoms longer than necessary! At least I have some hope that one of the

things I battle will end soon. I hope sooner than soon, for gosh sakes I’m 61, and still not in menopause!! What the heck is going on here? Guess it’s good for my bones, but enough is enough ya know. Lol….Hugs Jackie J From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of AkibaSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:59 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem No no no...I said we will NOT have to deal with them forever. Nawwwww, I just think we are passionate about life, and we tend to take things deeper maybe than other people. Steve is always telling me to not care so much about other people, but I just can’t help it. AND……….Yes menopause just adds another layer of hormonal angst to the mix. I think that has been my worse symptom, and Akiba shame on you for saying we will have to deal with this the REST of our lives!!! I think NOT! LOL….. God help me/us. My husband has lost almost 60 lbs, and is looking really good. He is aging very nicely, and I have been feeling so old and frumpy, for the first time in our marriage I feel scared he might leave me for someone that gives him more attention in ways I can’t anymore. I’ve brought it up before he even lost the weight how it didn’t seem fair that he was “saddled†with a disabled wife, and he could be out doing things and living a more satisfying life without me. He always said no he didn’t want that, but that was before he lost the weight, and felt like no one would want him anyhow. Now with the non-anniversary thing, it has got me worried that he might find someone even accidently. He’s had women come on to him before, so my concerns

aren’t without some merit. But then again maybe it’s just my emotions out of whack and I’m just being paranoid? It might help if I could bathe, and have my hair fixed and put some makeup on once in a while. Get out of these sweats, and not be in so much pain. Sighs from Jackie L From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of Catharine HunterSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:10 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem I remember how hurt you were on your anniversary Jackie. I would be too but then I'm also a Leo. I don't know why I'm feeling this way. Afterall we've been together for 8 yrs albeit each keeping our own homes. But I know the part of me that's a little frightened is insecurity and fear that I'll get hurt. You know the 'should I leave him before he leaves me' bit? Or maybe stupid hormones since Akiba says we're going to have to deal with meno symptoms for the rest of our lives. I know I need 's help for some things

I just can't physically do but knowing that he needs me, in an emotional way, feels kind of good. Geesh, sounds like I'm a 13 ;) .. hugs, Cait To: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:22 PMSubject: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem Never too old for romance! Not laughing either. Steve couldn’t think of one thing romantic to get me for our 40th anniversary, even though we DO have a song. I said couldn’t you have thought of maybe a music box [which I collect], or a CD of romantic songs? Or even set the table with candle light, and a red rose? I think he just

thinks of our relationship as him being my caretaker, and companion, but not intimate. Seems like when the sex stopped the romance died. I’m a very romantic person, [Leo], and it really hurt me to think he didn’t care enough to try and make that big of an anniversary special. L I feel myself pulling away so my expectations won’t be anything more from now on. Hugs, Jackie From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of xstitcherSent: Monday, August 29, 2011 8:57 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: My Update & a problem .I went over to 's to babysit Bert aka Cruiser, Jr's cocker spaniel so could go golfing in a local tournament. That meant nobody went to court for Jr and he didn't get out :))). Most likely he'll get out on bail tomorrow unfortunately. I can't remember when I came home but it was with a kidney infection. So I've been

basically drowsing, reading and drinking water water water. It's definitely not cystits but more like pylitis (sp). Anyway that's not my problem. Lately I've done a bit of introspection (me too Jackie) and I realize I'm trying to push away. At the same time, I worry about the future and being alone. I also realize that in some ways I need him and he needs me. And that scares the wits out of me. The feeling needed part I mean which was sadly lacking in my marriage. And unconsciously I have an 'our song' like a goofy teenager. Don't laugh but it's Trisha Yearwood's 'How do I live". Geesh aren't I too old for these kind of feelings?????

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Hi Jackie! I hadn't known that the hormones can change from day to day. That's curious...Don't get yourself all worked up now about CA. One step at a time. Get yourself in as you said, and take it from there. I'm sure everything will check out fine.Our basement is ok, and we run a dehumidifier 24/7 down there and there is no odor, so no apparent mold. Thank goodness!Our yard, however, looks like who did it and ran. My husband has a HUGE ditch dug under where our back deck used to be. He went to paint the fencing, balistrades I think they're called, and he took them off to paint them and discovered the entire deck was rotted. SO, he took the whole thing down! There's no way to get in, except our front door. We always went in through the

sliding door off the back deck into the kitchen. Very convenient for bringing in the groceries. So, THAT looks awful. Add to that that we took the fence down, as that was rotted as well. Not sure what the neighbor thinks. She's probably pissed. It's a sight for sore eyes. I'm trying to get in touch with the fencing people, but they seem to keep blowing me off for some reason. Either they're too busy or don't want to deal with us...not sure. Can't seem to find another fencing person.Well, this is much more than you wanted to hear/read, my friend, so I'll sign off for now.love, KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 10:06 AMSubject: Women talk Kate.

Hi Kate,……yeah most of my friends have stopped in their 50’s too. I asked my Dr. last time I saw her in June if she would order a hormone check, and she didn’t seem to think it was necessary. I guess those tests aren’t all that reliable as the hormones can change from day to day. I think I am going to see a Gynecologist though because I don’t think this is normal. Even though my Dr. said she had a woman in her 70’s that hadn’t gone thru menopause yet. YIKES! Maybe she jinxed me? I’ve read too that it could be something more serious like cervical cancer or endometriosis cancer. I do have endometriosis, and fibroids so maybe something’s going on there? So how

are you fairing? Did you get your basement dried out? Hopefully it won’t end up with too much damage and mold. Mold is a big allergen for me. We had our furnace with mold spores and the guy cleaned it out. Now the duct guys are coming out next week to clean those out. It will be interesting to see if my sinus stuff clears up. Hugs Jackie From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of Kate RothschildSent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:30 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a

problem Wow, Jackie. That's surprising. I am 52, and stopped cycles almost 3 years ago.I hope this resolves soon for you.Have you had your hormones checked?Take care of yourself.love

you,Kate To: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:52 PMSubject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem STILL NOT???? OMG woman!!!! I was over and done with before 50, unless of course you count the year-and-1/2 long period (double meaning on the word "period") I had while Rob had Robbin...which has Not returned, BTW... WHEW! I’m so glad you corrected this as I just can’t imagine having these symptoms longer than necessary! At least I have some hope that one of the

things I battle will end soon. I hope sooner than soon, for gosh sakes I’m 61, and still not in menopause!! What the heck is going on here? Guess it’s good for my bones, but enough is enough ya know. Lol….Hugs Jackie J From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of AkibaSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:59 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem No no no...I said we will NOT have to deal with them forever. Nawwwww, I just think we are passionate about life, and we tend to take things deeper maybe than other people. Steve is always telling me to not care so much about other people, but I just can’t help it. AND……….Yes menopause just adds another layer of hormonal angst to the mix. I think that has been my worse symptom, and Akiba shame on you for saying we will have to deal with this the REST of our lives!!! I think NOT! LOL….. God help me/us. My husband has lost almost 60 lbs, and is looking really good. He is aging very nicely, and I have been feeling so old and frumpy, for the first time in our marriage I feel scared he might leave me for someone that gives him more attention in ways I can’t anymore. I’ve brought it up before he even lost the weight how it didn’t seem fair that he was “saddled†with a disabled wife, and he could be out doing things and living a more satisfying life without me. He always said no he didn’t want that, but that was before he lost the weight, and felt like no one would want him anyhow. Now with the non-anniversary thing, it has got me worried that he might find someone even accidently. He’s had women come on to him before, so my concerns

aren’t without some merit. But then again maybe it’s just my emotions out of whack and I’m just being paranoid? It might help if I could bathe, and have my hair fixed and put some makeup on once in a while. Get out of these sweats, and not be in so much pain. Sighs from Jackie L From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of Catharine HunterSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:10 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: Re: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem I remember how hurt you were on your anniversary Jackie. I would be too but then I'm also a Leo. I don't know why I'm feeling this way. Afterall we've been together for 8 yrs albeit each keeping our own homes. But I know the part of me that's a little frightened is insecurity and fear that I'll get hurt. You know the 'should I leave him before he leaves me' bit? Or maybe stupid hormones since Akiba says we're going to have to deal with meno symptoms for the rest of our lives. I know I need 's help for some things

I just can't physically do but knowing that he needs me, in an emotional way, feels kind of good. Geesh, sounds like I'm a 13 ;) .. hugs, Cait To: MSersLife Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:22 PMSubject: Cait and feelings........RE: My Update & a problem Never too old for romance! Not laughing either. Steve couldn’t think of one thing romantic to get me for our 40th anniversary, even though we DO have a song. I said couldn’t you have thought of maybe a music box [which I collect], or a CD of romantic songs? Or even set the table with candle light, and a red rose? I think he just

thinks of our relationship as him being my caretaker, and companion, but not intimate. Seems like when the sex stopped the romance died. I’m a very romantic person, [Leo], and it really hurt me to think he didn’t care enough to try and make that big of an anniversary special. L I feel myself pulling away so my expectations won’t be anything more from now on. Hugs, Jackie From: MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of xstitcherSent: Monday, August 29, 2011 8:57 PMTo: MSersLife Subject: My Update & a problem .I went over to 's to babysit Bert aka Cruiser, Jr's cocker spaniel so could go golfing in a local tournament. That meant nobody went to court for Jr and he didn't get out :))). Most likely he'll get out on bail tomorrow unfortunately. I can't remember when I came home but it was with a kidney infection. So I've been

basically drowsing, reading and drinking water water water. It's definitely not cystits but more like pylitis (sp). Anyway that's not my problem. Lately I've done a bit of introspection (me too Jackie) and I realize I'm trying to push away. At the same time, I worry about the future and being alone. I also realize that in some ways I need him and he needs me. And that scares the wits out of me. The feeling needed part I mean which was sadly lacking in my marriage. And unconsciously I have an 'our song' like a goofy teenager. Don't laugh but it's Trisha Yearwood's 'How do I live". Geesh aren't I too old for these kind of feelings?????

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