Re: Horrific terrorist act

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I've been watching, in horror, and I have been thinking about you and , and also my local taxi guy, Jan (pron: Yon) who is from there. It is horrible, trajic....sad...my heart and my prayers go to the whole situation.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

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-- Horrific terrorist act

We were shocked friday evening to learn of the horrible terrorist attacks in Norway, with a bombing in the government district of the Norwegian capital, Oslo, and a shooting at a youth summer camp on the Utøya island, seemingly linked. And even more shocked when we woke up early Saturday morning to the news that the death toll was then over 80, and still rising (when we went to bed on Friday they were still talking about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93 people are confirmed dead, about 80 of them kids from the summer camp, but about as many are hospitalized, and several people are still missing, so the death toll is likely to keep rising for a while more).

The police are searching the water around the summer camp island for bodies, because many of the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to swim to safety when the gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to take them out one by one, and it's believed that some of them drowned in that attempt.

I really just can't fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and yet it's in line with what right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before in Scandinavia (although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said when we heard the news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any group, it's a very generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting of the kids on the island summer camp has "nazi" written all over it.

I myself was, as a teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was targeted by nazi terrorism in the early 90's, and that's where my mind has been going this weekend, of course. Memories of the sheer terror (very apt word) involved in escaping a building about to be bombed, hoping to God not to be discovered by the perpetrators on the way out, all of a sudden very vivid again. And, of course, also a feeling of gratitude about the unbelievably happy ending that, despite it all, was granted to us, compared to the outcome for the kids on the Norwegian summer camp island this past friday.

You have probably read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the CNN coverage can be found at:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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Reb this is just horrible. My heart goes out to anyone involved.

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> Horrific terrorist act

>

> We were shocked friday evening to learn of the horrible terrorist

> attacks in Norway, with a bombing in the government district of the

> Norwegian capital, Oslo, and a shooting at a youth summer camp on the

> Utøya island, seemingly linked. And even more shocked when we woke up

> early Saturday morning to the news that the death toll was then over 80,

> and still rising (when we went to bed on Friday they were still talking

> about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93 people are confirmed dead, about 80

> of them kids from the summer camp, but about as many are hospitalized,

> and several people are still missing, so the death toll is likely to

> keep rising for a while more).

> The police are searching the water around the summer camp island for

> bodies, because many of the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to

> swim to safety when the gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to

> take them out one by one, and it's believed that some of them drowned in

> that attempt.

> I really just can't fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and

> yet it's in line with what right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before

> in Scandinavia (although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said

> when we heard the news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any

> group, it's a very generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting

> of the kids on the island summer camp has " nazi " written all over it.

> I myself was, as a teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was

> targeted by nazi terrorism in the early 90's, and that's where my mind

> has been going this weekend, of course. Memories of the sheer terror

> (very apt word) involved in escaping a building about to be bombed,

> hoping to God not to be discovered by the perpetrators on the way out,

> all of a sudden very vivid again. And, of course, also a feeling of

> gratitude about the unbelievably happy ending that, despite it all, was

> granted to us, compared to the outcome for the kids on the Norwegian

> summer camp island this past friday.

> You have probably read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the

> CNN coverage can be found at:

> http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/ind\

> ex.html?hpt=hp_t1

> love/Reb

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Horrific terrorist act

 

We were shocked friday evening to learn of the horrible terrorist attacks in

Norway, with a bombing in the government district of the Norwegian capital,

Oslo, and a shooting at a youth summer camp on the Utøya island, seemingly

linked. And even more shocked when we woke up early Saturday morning to the

news that the death toll was then over 80, and still rising (when we went to

bed on Friday they were still talking about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93

people are confirmed dead, about 80 of them kids from the summer camp, but

about as many are hospitalized, and several people are still missing, so the

death toll is likely to keep rising for a while more). 

The police are searching the water around the summer camp island for bodies,

because many of the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to swim to

safety when the gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to take them

out one by one, and it's believed that some of them drowned in that

attempt. 

I really just can't fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and yet

it's in line with what right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before in

Scandinavia (although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said when

we heard the news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any group,

it's a very generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting of the kids

on the island summer camp has " nazi " written all over it. 

I myself was, as a teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was targeted

by nazi terrorism in the early 90's, and that's where my mind has been going

this weekend, of course. Memories of the sheer terror (very apt word)

involved in escaping a building about to be bombed, hoping to God not to be

discovered by the perpetrators on the way out, all of a sudden very vivid

again. And, of course, also a feeling of gratitude about the unbelievably

happy ending that, despite it all, was granted to us, compared to the

outcome for the kids on the Norwegian summer camp island this past friday. 

You have probably read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the CNN

coverage can be found at: 

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/index.h

tml?hpt=hp_t1

love

/Reb

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RebIt was a horrific attack, I agree. I've been following the news about it. Was the shooter connected to the Neo Nazis? I haven't heard but I did hear another person was arrested in Oslo. What a senseless loss of life and loss of innocence/security for the survivors.love to you and all involved SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual

character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 12:19 PMSubject: Horrific

terrorist act

We were shocked friday evening to learn of the horrible terrorist attacks in Norway, with a bombing in the government district of the Norwegian capital, Oslo, and a shooting at a youth summer camp on the Utøya island, seemingly linked. And even more shocked when we woke up early Saturday morning to the news that the death toll was then over 80, and still rising (when we went to bed on Friday they were still talking about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93 people are confirmed dead, about 80 of them kids from the summer camp, but about as many are hospitalized, and several people are still missing, so the death toll is likely to keep rising for a while more). The police are searching the water around the summer camp

island for bodies, because many of the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to swim to safety when the gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to take them out one by one, and it's believed that some of them drowned in that attempt. I really just can't fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and yet it's in line with what right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before in Scandinavia (although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said when we heard the news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any group, it's a very generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting of the kids on the island summer camp has "nazi" written all over it. I myself was, as a teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was targeted by nazi terrorism in the early 90's, and that's where my mind has been going this weekend, of course. Memories of the sheer terror (very apt word) involved in escaping a building about to be bombed, hoping to God not to be discovered by the perpetrators on the way out, all of a sudden very vivid again. And, of course, also a feeling of gratitude about the unbelievably happy ending that, despite it all, was granted to us, compared to the outcome for the kids on the Norwegian summer camp island this past friday. You have probably read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the CNN

coverage can be found at: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1love/Reb

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Reb, I have been following this, and did think of you and of ,Love and hope--glad that you survived youth,nSubject: Horrific terrorist actTo: MSersLife Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 12:19 PM

We were shocked friday evening to learn of the horrible terrorist attacks in Norway, with a bombing in the government district of the Norwegian capital, Oslo, and a shooting at a youth summer camp on the Utøya island, seemingly linked. And even more shocked when we woke up early Saturday morning to the news that the death toll was then over 80, and still rising (when we went to bed on Friday they were still talking about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93 people are confirmed dead, about 80 of them kids from the summer camp, but about as many are hospitalized, and several people are still missing, so the death toll is likely to keep rising for a while more). The police are searching the water around the

summer camp island for bodies, because many of the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to swim to safety when the gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to take them out one by one, and it's believed that some of them drowned in that attempt. I really just can't fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and yet it's in line with what right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before in Scandinavia (although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said when we heard the news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any group, it's a very generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting of the kids on the island summer camp has "nazi" written all over it. I myself was, as a teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was targeted by nazi terrorism in the early 90's, and that's where my mind has been going this weekend, of course. Memories of the sheer terror (very apt word) involved in escaping a building about to be bombed, hoping to God not to be discovered by the perpetrators on the way out, all of a sudden very vivid again. And, of course, also a feeling of gratitude about the unbelievably happy ending that, despite it all, was granted to us, compared to the outcome for the kids on the Norwegian summer camp island this past friday. You have probably read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the CNN coverage can be

found at: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1love/Reb

[Guest guest]

Thank you! I was really impressed, and moved, by the response from the Norwegian prime minister (whose office was among those affected by the bombing, but he did get out unharmed), he said (I'm quoting from memory, and translating as I go...) in his talk to the nation that:"When our democracy is under attack, our only response can and must be more democracy,or the attacker has won.When our tolerance is being attacked, we can only ever respond with more tolerance,or the attacker has won."It's a hard lesson to learn, but I think he is absolutely right. The only meaningful response to this kind of political terror must be to stand firm on the values that are the target of the attack, or the attacker will win by default. love/Reb>> I've been watching, in horror, and I have been thinking about you and ,> and also my local taxi guy, Jan (pron: Yon) who is from there. It is> horrible, trajic....sad...my heart and my prayers go to the whole situation.> > > > > >   > ~*~Hugs~*~

> ~*~Akiba~*~

> Pragmatic Visionary

> http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

> -- Horrific terrorist act

> > > We were shocked friday evening to learn of the horrible terrorist attacks in> Norway, with a bombing in the government district of the Norwegian capital,> Oslo, and a shooting at a youth summer camp on the Utøya island, seemingly> linked. And even more shocked when we woke up early Saturday morning to the> news that the death toll was then over 80, and still rising (when we went to> bed on Friday they were still talking about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93> people are confirmed dead, about 80 of them kids from the summer camp, but> about as many are hospitalized, and several people are still missing, so the> death toll is likely to keep rising for a while more). > > > The police are searching the water around the summer camp island for bodies,> because many of the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to swim to> safety when the gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to take them> out one by one, and it's believed that some of them drowned in that attempt.> > > > I really just can't fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and yet> it's in line with what right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before in> Scandinavia (although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said when> we heard the news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any group,> it's a very generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting of the kids> on the island summer camp has "nazi" written all over it. > > > I myself was, as a teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was targeted> by nazi terrorism in the early 90's, and that's where my mind has been going> this weekend, of course. Memories of the sheer terror (very apt word)> involved in escaping a building about to be bombed, hoping to God not to be> discovered by the perpetrators on the way out, all of a sudden very vivid> again. And, of course, also a feeling of gratitude about the unbelievably> happy ending that, despite it all, was granted to us, compared to the> outcome for the kids on the Norwegian summer camp island this past friday. > > > You have probably read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the CNN> coverage can be found at: > http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/index> html?hpt=hp_t1

> > > love

> /Reb>

[Guest guest]

Thank you! I was really impressed, and moved, by the response from the Norwegian prime minister (whose office was among those affected by the bombing, but he did get out unharmed), he said (I'm quoting from memory, and translating as I go...) in his talk to the nation that:"When our democracy is under attack, our only response can and must be more democracy,or the attacker has won.When our tolerance is being attacked, we can only ever respond with more tolerance,or the attacker has won."It's a hard lesson to learn, but I think he is absolutely right. The only meaningful response to this kind of political terror must be to stand firm on the values that are the target of the attack, or the attacker will win by default. love/Reb>> I've been watching, in horror, and I have been thinking about you and ,> and also my local taxi guy, Jan (pron: Yon) who is from there. It is> horrible, trajic....sad...my heart and my prayers go to the whole situation.> > > > > >   > ~*~Hugs~*~

> ~*~Akiba~*~

> Pragmatic Visionary

> http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

> -- Horrific terrorist act

> > > We were shocked friday evening to learn of the horrible terrorist attacks in> Norway, with a bombing in the government district of the Norwegian capital,> Oslo, and a shooting at a youth summer camp on the Utøya island, seemingly> linked. And even more shocked when we woke up early Saturday morning to the> news that the death toll was then over 80, and still rising (when we went to> bed on Friday they were still talking about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93> people are confirmed dead, about 80 of them kids from the summer camp, but> about as many are hospitalized, and several people are still missing, so the> death toll is likely to keep rising for a while more). > > > The police are searching the water around the summer camp island for bodies,> because many of the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to swim to> safety when the gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to take them> out one by one, and it's believed that some of them drowned in that attempt.> > > > I really just can't fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and yet> it's in line with what right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before in> Scandinavia (although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said when> we heard the news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any group,> it's a very generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting of the kids> on the island summer camp has "nazi" written all over it. > > > I myself was, as a teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was targeted> by nazi terrorism in the early 90's, and that's where my mind has been going> this weekend, of course. Memories of the sheer terror (very apt word)> involved in escaping a building about to be bombed, hoping to God not to be> discovered by the perpetrators on the way out, all of a sudden very vivid> again. And, of course, also a feeling of gratitude about the unbelievably> happy ending that, despite it all, was granted to us, compared to the> outcome for the kids on the Norwegian summer camp island this past friday. > > > You have probably read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the CNN> coverage can be found at: > http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/index> html?hpt=hp_t1

> > > love

> /Reb>

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I am folowing the terrorist attack and very sorry for your losses. I am shocked to learn that he hated us Turks.But I know that this is only his thought and no t the Norweigans.

Nukhet

Subject: Horrific terrorist actTo: MSersLife Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 10:19 PM

We were shocked friday evening to learn of the horrible terrorist attacks in Norway, with a bombing in the government district of the Norwegian capital, Oslo, and a shooting at a youth summer camp on the Utøya island, seemingly linked. And even more shocked when we woke up early Saturday morning to the news that the death toll was then over 80, and still rising (when we went to bed on Friday they were still talking about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93 people are confirmed dead, about 80 of them kids from the summer camp, but about as many are hospitalized, and several people are still missing, so the death toll is likely to keep rising for a while more).

The police are searching the water around the summer camp island for bodies, because many of the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to swim to safety when the gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to take them out one by one, and it's believed that some of them drowned in that attempt.

I really just can't fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and yet it's in line with what right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before in Scandinavia (although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said when we heard the news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any group, it's a very generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting of the kids on the island summer camp has "nazi" written all over it.

I myself was, as a teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was targeted by nazi terrorism in the early 90's, and that's where my mind has been going this weekend, of course. Memories of the sheer terror (very apt word) involved in escaping a building about to be bombed, hoping to God not to be discovered by the perpetrators on the way out, all of a sudden very vivid again. And, of course, also a feeling of gratitude about the unbelievably happy ending that, despite it all, was granted to us, compared to the outcome for the kids on the Norwegian summer camp island this past friday.

You have probably read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the CNN coverage can be found at:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

love

/Reb

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I am still trying to get my head around it

– it brings back so many memories of the Murrah Building

in 1995 – the pictures of the fireman holding little Baylee Almon kept flashing

to my son and my grandson – it was 3 + years before I could blank it out

I still can’t understand hurting children –

’s son is 18 – Tj will be 21 in December

Smoke and Prayers going up for everyone –

I read it in the paper

From:

MSersLife [mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf Of nukhet demirayakhosrik

Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:34

AM

To: MSersLife

Subject: Re: Horrific

terrorist act

I am folowing the terrorist attack and very sorry

for your losses. I am shocked to learn that he hated us Turks.But I

know that this is only his thought and no t the Norweigans.

Nukhet

Subject: Horrific terrorist act

To: MSersLife

Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 10:19 PM

We were shocked friday

evening to learn of the horrible terrorist attacks in Norway, with a bombing

in the government district of the Norwegian capital, Oslo, and a shooting at

a youth summer camp on the Utøya island, seemingly linked. And even more

shocked when we woke up early Saturday morning to the news that the death

toll was then over 80, and still rising (when we went to bed on Friday they

were still talking about 6-7 dead, as of right now 93 people are confirmed

dead, about 80 of them kids from the summer camp, but about as many are

hospitalized, and several people are still missing, so the death toll is likely

to keep rising for a while more).

The police are

searching the water around the summer camp island for bodies, because many of

the kids/teens jumped in the water and tried to swim to safety when the

gunman, dressed as a police officer, started to take them out one by one, and

it's believed that some of them drowned in that attempt.

I really just can't

fathom the coldblooded shooting of those kids, and yet it's in line with what

right wing/neo-nazi groups have done before in Scandinavia

(although, not on this scale, I believe). In fact, I said when we heard the

news, that the bombing in Oslo could be just about any group, it's a very

generic terrorist act, so to speak, but the shooting of the kids on the

island summer camp has " nazi " written all over it.

I myself was, as a

teenager, the chairman of a youth group that was targeted by nazi terrorism

in the early 90's, and that's where my mind has been going this weekend, of

course. Memories of the sheer terror (very apt word) involved in escaping a

building about to be bombed, hoping to God not to be discovered by the

perpetrators on the way out, all of a sudden very vivid again. And, of

course, also a feeling of gratitude about the unbelievably happy ending that,

despite it all, was granted to us, compared to the outcome for the kids on

the Norwegian summer camp island this past friday.

You have probably

read/seen the news about it already, but if not, the CNN coverage can be

found at:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.terror.attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

love

/Reb

[Guest guest]

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it, too.  A friend of mine who lives in Bergen, Norway, doesn't really want to talk about it - just says he hopes they treat him as a " traitor " (don't know what charges that would entail) because that is the only time they use the death penalty in Norway.  And yes, the Oklahoma City bombing is the first thing I thought of, too.

Tina

 

I am still trying to get my head around it

– it brings back so many memories of the Murrah Building

in 1995 – the pictures of the fireman holding little Baylee Almon kept flashing

to my son and my grandson – it was 3 + years before I could blank it out

 

I still can’t understand hurting children –

’s son is 18 – Tj will be 21 in December

 

Smoke and Prayers going up for everyone –

I read it in the paper

[Guest guest]

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it, too.  A friend of mine who lives in Bergen, Norway, doesn't really want to talk about it - just says he hopes they treat him as a " traitor " (don't know what charges that would entail) because that is the only time they use the death penalty in Norway.  And yes, the Oklahoma City bombing is the first thing I thought of, too.

Tina

 

I am still trying to get my head around it

– it brings back so many memories of the Murrah Building

in 1995 – the pictures of the fireman holding little Baylee Almon kept flashing

to my son and my grandson – it was 3 + years before I could blank it out

 

I still can’t understand hurting children –

’s son is 18 – Tj will be 21 in December

 

Smoke and Prayers going up for everyone –

I read it in the paper

[Guest guest]

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it, too.  A friend of mine who lives in Bergen, Norway, doesn't really want to talk about it - just says he hopes they treat him as a " traitor " (don't know what charges that would entail) because that is the only time they use the death penalty in Norway.  And yes, the Oklahoma City bombing is the first thing I thought of, too.

Tina

 

I am still trying to get my head around it

– it brings back so many memories of the Murrah Building

in 1995 – the pictures of the fireman holding little Baylee Almon kept flashing

to my son and my grandson – it was 3 + years before I could blank it out

 

I still can’t understand hurting children –

’s son is 18 – Tj will be 21 in December

 

Smoke and Prayers going up for everyone –

I read it in the paper

[Guest guest]

The Murrah Building

and then the twin towers

Things keep getting worse

From: MSersLife

[mailto:MSersLife ] On Behalf

Of Tina Schmidt

Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:29

PM

To: MSersLife

Subject: Re: Horrific

terrorist act

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it,

too. A friend of mine who lives in Bergen, Norway, doesn't really want to

talk about it - just says he hopes they treat him as a " traitor "

(don't know what charges that would entail) because that is the only time they

use the death penalty in Norway. And yes, the Oklahoma City bombing is the first thing I

thought of, too.

Tina

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Anne Whitworth

wrote:

I am still trying to get my head around it

– it brings back so many memories of the Murrah Building

in 1995 – the pictures of the fireman holding little Baylee Almon kept flashing

to my son and my grandson – it was 3 + years before I could blank it out

I still can’t understand hurting children

– ’s son is 18 – Tj will be 21 in December

Smoke and Prayers going up for everyone –

I read it in the paper