Re: Study: Most People Unwilling to Use AEDs

[Guest guest]

Not at all surprising. I would think that some (if not many) would equate an

AED to an electric eel.

Study: Most People Unwilling to Use AEDs

Washington, D.C. -- A Dutch study published online Monday in ls of

Emergency Medicine reports that less than half (47 percent) of people in a

public place with access to an automatic external defibrillator (AED) would

be

willing to use it, with more than half (53 percent) unable even to

recognize one ( " Public Access Defibrillation: Time to Access the Public " ).

" An AED is only beneficial if a bystander is willing to use it when

someone is in cardiac arrest, " said lead study author Schober, MD,

Ph.D.,

of V.U. University Medical Center in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. " AEDs are

increasingly available in public places, such as the train station where we

conducted our survey. However, in our study, only 28 percent of

participants correctly identified the AED, knew its purpose and expressed a

willingness to use it. "

Just over one-third (34 percent) of participants stated that anyone is

allowed to use an AED, with nearly half (49 percent) believing only trained

personnel may use it. The most frequently mentioned reason given for not

using an AED was not knowing how it works (69 percent), following by fear of

harming the victim (14 percent). Only 6 percent of study participants

spontaneously mentioned AEDs in response to a question about what should be

done

as quickly as possible for someone suspected of being in cardiac arrest.

Wide-scale public information campaigns are an important next step to

exploit

the lifesavings potential of public AEDs. "

Sudden cardiac arrest is a leading cause of mortality in North America and

Europe. Odds of survival decline by 7 to 10 percent per minute of delay in

defibrillation. AED application by bystanders saves only 1.4 lives per one

million people in North America.

" AEDs are actually very easy to use, but it is obvious that the public has

not gotten that message, " said Dr. Schober. " Only a minority of

individuals demonstrated both knowledge and willingness to operate an AED.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

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[Guest guest]

Not at all surprising. I would think that some (if not many) would equate an

AED to an electric eel.

Study: Most People Unwilling to Use AEDs

Washington, D.C. -- A Dutch study published online Monday in ls of

Emergency Medicine reports that less than half (47 percent) of people in a

public place with access to an automatic external defibrillator (AED) would

be

willing to use it, with more than half (53 percent) unable even to

recognize one ( " Public Access Defibrillation: Time to Access the Public " ).

" An AED is only beneficial if a bystander is willing to use it when

someone is in cardiac arrest, " said lead study author Schober, MD,

Ph.D.,

of V.U. University Medical Center in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. " AEDs are

increasingly available in public places, such as the train station where we

conducted our survey. However, in our study, only 28 percent of

participants correctly identified the AED, knew its purpose and expressed a

willingness to use it. "

Just over one-third (34 percent) of participants stated that anyone is

allowed to use an AED, with nearly half (49 percent) believing only trained

personnel may use it. The most frequently mentioned reason given for not

using an AED was not knowing how it works (69 percent), following by fear of

harming the victim (14 percent). Only 6 percent of study participants

spontaneously mentioned AEDs in response to a question about what should be

done

as quickly as possible for someone suspected of being in cardiac arrest.

Wide-scale public information campaigns are an important next step to

exploit

the lifesavings potential of public AEDs. "

Sudden cardiac arrest is a leading cause of mortality in North America and

Europe. Odds of survival decline by 7 to 10 percent per minute of delay in

defibrillation. AED application by bystanders saves only 1.4 lives per one

million people in North America.

" AEDs are actually very easy to use, but it is obvious that the public has

not gotten that message, " said Dr. Schober. " Only a minority of

individuals demonstrated both knowledge and willingness to operate an AED.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

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discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

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[Guest guest]

I can understand that point Bob but the really sad part is if it's

maintained right and functioning as designed the only way to hurt someone with

an

AED is to beat them over the head with it and the only way to save a person

who needs an AED is with an AED when they need it not when a trained

person gets to them!

Given the numbers of saves in airports and such one must wonder how many

more there would be had these fearful folks used one that may have been

there. the reverse irony is Jim Page never had that chance and he had basically

the best case for an AED save going. witnessed arrest, public CPR, he was

in great shape for his age, first cardiac event and no AEDF was in that gym.

Sad so freaking sad.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

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LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

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discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

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I

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In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:13:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

Not at all surprising. I would think that some (if not many) would equate

an

AED to an electric eel.

Study: Most People Unwilling to Use AEDs

Washington, D.C. -- A Dutch study published online Monday in ls of

Emergency Medicine reports that less than half (47 percent) of people in a

public place with access to an automatic external defibrillator (AED) would

be

willing to use it, with more than half (53 percent) unable even to

recognize one ( " Public Access Defibrillation: Time to Access the Public " ).

" An AED is only beneficial if a bystander is willing to use it when

someone is in cardiac arrest, " said lead study author Schober, MD,

Ph.D.,

of V.U. University Medical Center in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. " AEDs are

increasingly available in public places, such as the train station where we

conducted our survey. However, in our study, only 28 percent of

participants correctly identified the AED, knew its purpose and expressed a

willingness to use it. "

Just over one-third (34 percent) of participants stated that anyone is

allowed to use an AED, with nearly half (49 percent) believing only trained

personnel may use it. The most frequently mentioned reason given for not

using an AED was not knowing how it works (69 percent), following by fear

of

harming the victim (14 percent). Only 6 percent of study participants

spontaneously mentioned AEDs in response to a question about what should be

done

as quickly as possible for someone suspected of being in cardiac arrest.

Wide-scale public information campaigns are an important next step to

exploit

the lifesavings potential of public AEDs. "

Sudden cardiac arrest is a leading cause of mortality in North America and

Europe. Odds of survival decline by 7 to 10 percent per minute of delay in

defibrillation. AED application by bystanders saves only 1.4 lives per one

million people in North America.

" AEDs are actually very easy to use, but it is obvious that the public has

not gotten that message, " said Dr. Schober. " Only a minority of

individuals demonstrated both knowledge and willingness to operate an AED.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

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[Guest guest]

I can understand that point Bob but the really sad part is if it's

maintained right and functioning as designed the only way to hurt someone with

an

AED is to beat them over the head with it and the only way to save a person

who needs an AED is with an AED when they need it not when a trained

person gets to them!

Given the numbers of saves in airports and such one must wonder how many

more there would be had these fearful folks used one that may have been

there. the reverse irony is Jim Page never had that chance and he had basically

the best case for an AED save going. witnessed arrest, public CPR, he was

in great shape for his age, first cardiac event and no AEDF was in that gym.

Sad so freaking sad.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless

I

specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential

materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

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In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:13:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

Not at all surprising. I would think that some (if not many) would equate

an

AED to an electric eel.

Study: Most People Unwilling to Use AEDs

Washington, D.C. -- A Dutch study published online Monday in ls of

Emergency Medicine reports that less than half (47 percent) of people in a

public place with access to an automatic external defibrillator (AED) would

be

willing to use it, with more than half (53 percent) unable even to

recognize one ( " Public Access Defibrillation: Time to Access the Public " ).

" An AED is only beneficial if a bystander is willing to use it when

someone is in cardiac arrest, " said lead study author Schober, MD,

Ph.D.,

of V.U. University Medical Center in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. " AEDs are

increasingly available in public places, such as the train station where we

conducted our survey. However, in our study, only 28 percent of

participants correctly identified the AED, knew its purpose and expressed a

willingness to use it. "

Just over one-third (34 percent) of participants stated that anyone is

allowed to use an AED, with nearly half (49 percent) believing only trained

personnel may use it. The most frequently mentioned reason given for not

using an AED was not knowing how it works (69 percent), following by fear

of

harming the victim (14 percent). Only 6 percent of study participants

spontaneously mentioned AEDs in response to a question about what should be

done

as quickly as possible for someone suspected of being in cardiac arrest.

Wide-scale public information campaigns are an important next step to

exploit

the lifesavings potential of public AEDs. "

Sudden cardiac arrest is a leading cause of mortality in North America and

Europe. Odds of survival decline by 7 to 10 percent per minute of delay in

defibrillation. AED application by bystanders saves only 1.4 lives per one

million people in North America.

" AEDs are actually very easy to use, but it is obvious that the public has

not gotten that message, " said Dr. Schober. " Only a minority of

individuals demonstrated both knowledge and willingness to operate an AED.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

unless I

specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential

materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

domain by the original author.

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[Guest guest]

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

I can understand that point Bob but the really sad part is if it's

maintained right and functioning as designed the only way to hurt someone

with an

AED is to beat them over the head with it and the only way to save a person

who needs an AED is with an AED when they need it not when a trained

person gets to them!

Given the numbers of saves in airports and such one must wonder how many

more there would be had these fearful folks used one that may have been

there. the reverse irony is Jim Page never had that chance and he had

basically

the best case for an AED save going. witnessed arrest, public CPR, he was

in great shape for his age, first cardiac event and no AEDF was in that gym.

Sad so freaking sad.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire P...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:13:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes: Not at all surprising. I would think that some

(if not many) would equ...

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[Guest guest]

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

I can understand that point Bob but the really sad part is if it's

maintained right and functioning as designed the only way to hurt someone

with an

AED is to beat them over the head with it and the only way to save a person

who needs an AED is with an AED when they need it not when a trained

person gets to them!

Given the numbers of saves in airports and such one must wonder how many

more there would be had these fearful folks used one that may have been

there. the reverse irony is Jim Page never had that chance and he had

basically

the best case for an AED save going. witnessed arrest, public CPR, he was

in great shape for his age, first cardiac event and no AEDF was in that gym.

Sad so freaking sad.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire P...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:13:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes: Not at all surprising. I would think that some

(if not many) would equ...

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[Guest guest]

Bob,

I agree, if I remember correctly the technical term is DRT (DEAD RIGHT

THERE)..

Bernie

Re: Study: Most People Unwilling to Use AEDs

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

I can understand that point Bob but the really sad part is if it's

maintained right and functioning as designed the only way to hurt someone

with an

AED is to beat them over the head with it and the only way to save a person

who needs an AED is with an AED when they need it not when a trained

person gets to them!

Given the numbers of saves in airports and such one must wonder how many

more there would be had these fearful folks used one that may have been

there. the reverse irony is Jim Page never had that chance and he had

basically

the best case for an AED save going. witnessed arrest, public CPR, he was

in great shape for his age, first cardiac event and no AEDF was in that gym.

Sad so freaking sad.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire P...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:13:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes: Not at all surprising. I would think that some

(if not many) would equ...

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[Guest guest]

Bob,

I agree, if I remember correctly the technical term is DRT (DEAD RIGHT

THERE)..

Bernie

Re: Study: Most People Unwilling to Use AEDs

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

I can understand that point Bob but the really sad part is if it's

maintained right and functioning as designed the only way to hurt someone

with an

AED is to beat them over the head with it and the only way to save a person

who needs an AED is with an AED when they need it not when a trained

person gets to them!

Given the numbers of saves in airports and such one must wonder how many

more there would be had these fearful folks used one that may have been

there. the reverse irony is Jim Page never had that chance and he had

basically

the best case for an AED save going. witnessed arrest, public CPR, he was

in great shape for his age, first cardiac event and no AEDF was in that gym.

Sad so freaking sad.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire P...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:13:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes: Not at all surprising. I would think that some

(if not many) would equ...

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[Guest guest]

That's the term I'm most familiar with, Bernie.

On Feb 12, 2011 7:39 PM, " Bernie Stafford " staffdoc9109@...>

wrote:

Bob,

I agree, if I remember correctly the technical term is DRT (DEAD RIGHT

THERE)..

Bernie

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texasems-l ] On...

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[Guest guest]

That's the term I'm most familiar with, Bernie.

On Feb 12, 2011 7:39 PM, " Bernie Stafford " staffdoc9109@...>

wrote:

Bob,

I agree, if I remember correctly the technical term is DRT (DEAD RIGHT

THERE)..

Bernie

-----Original Message----- From: texasems-l [mailto:

texasems-l ] On...

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[Guest guest]

That's the term I'm most familiar with, Bernie.

On Feb 12, 2011 7:39 PM, " Bernie Stafford " staffdoc9109@...>

wrote:

Bob,

I agree, if I remember correctly the technical term is DRT (DEAD RIGHT

THERE)..

Bernie

-----Original Message----- From: texasems-l [mailto:

texasems-l ] On...

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

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In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

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In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

[Guest guest]

I don't disagree. We also know that such intervention can result in a

persistent vegative state. It's all in the luck of the draw. As for me, I'm

all about revenge. When I arrest, I want to make sure that I'm as full of

pizza and beer as possible.

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@... 979-412...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

[Guest guest]

I don't disagree. We also know that such intervention can result in a

persistent vegative state. It's all in the luck of the draw. As for me, I'm

all about revenge. When I arrest, I want to make sure that I'm as full of

pizza and beer as possible.

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@... 979-412...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

[Guest guest]

No chili?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

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In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I don't disagree. We also know that such intervention can result in a

persistent vegative state. It's all in the luck of the draw. As for me, I'm

all about revenge. When I arrest, I want to make sure that I'm as full of

pizza and beer as possible.

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@... 979-412...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

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[Guest guest]

No chili?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Office)

(Office Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

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In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I don't disagree. We also know that such intervention can result in a

persistent vegative state. It's all in the luck of the draw. As for me, I'm

all about revenge. When I arrest, I want to make sure that I'm as full of

pizza and beer as possible.

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@... 979-412...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

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No chili?

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In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I don't disagree. We also know that such intervention can result in a

persistent vegative state. It's all in the luck of the draw. As for me, I'm

all about revenge. When I arrest, I want to make sure that I'm as full of

pizza and beer as possible.

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@... 979-412...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes:

I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

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LMAO!

No chili?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

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Texan with a Jersey At...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes: I don't disagree. We also know that such

intervention can result in a ...

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[Guest guest]

LMAO!

No chili?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire ...

(Cell Phone) (Office) (Office Fax) " A

Texan with a Jersey At...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes: I don't disagree. We also know that such

intervention can result in a ...

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[Guest guest]

LMAO!

No chili?

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire ...

(Cell Phone) (Office) (Office Fax) " A

Texan with a Jersey At...

In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

kellow.bob@... writes: I don't disagree. We also know that such

intervention can result in a ...

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While I'm a Damn Yankee I have been around you Texans a damn long time.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Training Program Manager

Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc.

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

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LNMolino@...

Lou@...

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> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

> Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire ...

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> (Cell Phone) (Office) (Office Fax) " A

> Texan with a Jersey At...

> In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

>

> kellow.bob@... writes: I don't disagree. We also know that such

> intervention can result in a ...

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[Guest guest]

While I'm a Damn Yankee I have been around you Texans a damn long time.

Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET

FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI

Training Program Manager

Fire & Safety Specialists, Inc.

Typed by my fingers on my iPhone.

Please excuse any typos.

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(Office)

(Office Fax)

LNMolino@...

Lou@...

> LMAO!

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> No chili?

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> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance

> Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire ...

>

> (Cell Phone) (Office) (Office Fax) " A

> Texan with a Jersey At...

> In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

>

> kellow.bob@... writes: I don't disagree. We also know that such

> intervention can result in a ...

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I plan to wedge myself either entirely behind the toilet, or if I have the

strength, in an air duct. I will not go quietly into that good ambulance.

-Brad

Sent from my iPhone

> No chili?

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

>

> LNMolino@...

>

> (Cell Phone)

> (Office)

> (Office Fax)

>

> " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

> the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

> organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

unless I

> specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

> for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential

> materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

> domain by the original author.

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> In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> kellow.bob@... writes:

>

> I don't disagree. We also know that such intervention can result in a

> persistent vegative state. It's all in the luck of the draw. As for me, I'm

> all about revenge. When I arrest, I want to make sure that I'm as full of

> pizza and beer as possible.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

>

> kellow.bob@... writes:

>

> I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

> But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

> will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

> LNMolino@... 979-412...

> In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

>

> kellow.bob@... writes:

>

> I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

>

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[Guest guest]

I plan to wedge myself either entirely behind the toilet, or if I have the

strength, in an air duct. I will not go quietly into that good ambulance.

-Brad

Sent from my iPhone

> No chili?

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

>

> LNMolino@...

>

> (Cell Phone)

> (Office)

> (Office Fax)

>

> " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

>

> " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

>

> The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and

> the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

> organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with

unless I

> specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only

> for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential

> materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

> domain by the original author.

>

>

> In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:13:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> kellow.bob@... writes:

>

> I don't disagree. We also know that such intervention can result in a

> persistent vegative state. It's all in the luck of the draw. As for me, I'm

> all about revenge. When I arrest, I want to make sure that I'm as full of

> pizza and beer as possible.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

>

> kellow.bob@... writes:

>

> I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

> But we KNOW in some cases the application of an AED is the ONLY thing that

> will reverse that fact if done in a VERY tight window.

>

> Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

>

> Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

> LNMolino@... 979-412...

> In a message dated 2/12/2011 7:28:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,

>

> kellow.bob@... writes:

>

> I agree, but in most instances cardiac arrest is an end of life event.

>

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